WOULD YOU CONSIDER INVESTING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY into raising kids as investment in your future?

Great news @fucho80 and @crypto.piotr

Let's hope kiddo will be healthy and fine. Do you already know if it's going to be a baby-boy or a girl?

Resteemed and upvoted already.

I think parent child relationship is also shaped by culture. At least, in Asia and good part of South America (I am not certain about other places. Does not mean I demean people from these regions) I think it is natural for us to be taken care by our parents and we take care of them as they age. There was never a question of how to raise children to take care of us. It just sounds odd.

Besides, a upbringing where we are more concerned about how our child will take care of us in the future will be so full of fear and uncertainty. Isn't it?

I think we need to just live life, be happy, teach happiness and love, and kids will get it, eventually.

And congrats to my friend @fucho80! 😊

God bless you and your child! 😊

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Thanks friend for the mention, there’re so many things that shapes our way of life which culture, religion, science and technology, love are among the lists.

But for me, I’m giving my best in training my children but not having that investment mindset with what I’m doing now, take for instance, I’m a follower of Yeshua (Jesus Christ) and I believe his teaching that instructs us not worry about the future, reason being that Christ understands the dynamics of life which keeps changing.

Understanding of today may not all alone sustain tomorrow. I believe that every parent would want the best for their children but not in the contest of what they (the parents) stand to gain afterwards from their children.

I love how @oivas has put it.

Besides, a upbringing where we are more concerned about how our child will take care of us in the future will be so full of fear and uncertainty. Isn't it?
I think we need to just live life, be happy, teach happiness and love, and kids will get it, eventually.

For our friend @fucho80, we wish him and his family all the best, be sure that everything will turn out for good dear @fucho80.

I and my family are also expecting our daughter in few weeks.

Thanks @crypto.piotr for being a wonderful friend, I’ve known him for a while especially for his sincere work of love in this blockchain. I’ll send my support to our friend @fucho80 and also follow him up to know more about him.

Still Max your friend.

I think it's super important to give your children proper knowledge, attitude and level of experiencing the world. Especially in those days, when they can get so many choices online from else whom. With kids, you can not be ensured by anything, but at least you need to try to be a great parent and inspiring person....which is not easy all the time.
PS. all the best to @fucho80 and his newborn child!

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Hola amigo,
You are a very good man and I believe that everyone here is seen the very best in you.
Kind regards,
Cosmophobia

Upvoted & resteemed. Thanks for the initiative @crypto.piotr. And congratulations @fucho80!

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@crypto.piotr sabe amigo es muy dificil responder su pregunta por que en lo personal creó que no será así los niños que dentro de 20 ó 30 años no se harán responsables por el cuidado de sus padres todo dependera mi punto de vista del cariño q le tengan. Ademas es muy amable de su parte colaborar con nosotros los Venezolan@s

I don't know whether to congratulate @fucho80 or feel sorry for him. Taking care of a child today is hard, here the medical conditions are terrible, there is no medicine, it is difficult to get food, it is quite a challenge to have a child. However, I congratulate you, since having a child is also a blessing according to what my parents say.

Actually, my mother says it's a lottery, that is, they won't always turn out the way you expect in the future. However, according to her words: children will never stop being children, and the role of parents is to help and guide always the children. Children do not have to take care of parents but to make their own life taking care of their own children. It's the law of nature.

God bless you and your family!

Wooo friend @crypto.piotr, you have a special ability to positively surprise people, I just got out of bed and you welcome me with this pleasant surprise.

I wish you the best of the world!

Important note:
All rewards from this post will be automatically transfered to @ fucho80 as a small support to his newborn child, which will come to this world in the next days. So please feel free to share, click the "upvote" button and also resteem so it's able to reach a wider audience.

Friend great gesture on your part, chiselously I did not expect this but I want you to know that for me it means a lot, it is a great support in the middle of this situation, I do not know if one day I can pay all this but you have won my heart and that of me family. My family loves you, with all this you are making a very deep mark on our life. Thank you!

A long while ago I've met an amazing person on Steemit and we became friends since then.

The feeling is mutual, I admire and respect you a lot, your leadership ability, your dedication in what you do, that way of getting the best out of people to get them to join and work together as a team, I'm happy to meet you, it's what Better that it happened to me on steemit.

I've learned to value him a lot and respect his work as a Pastor in a smaller town somewhere in Venezuela.
He quickly became an important part of "project hope" and many of you surely know him already by now.

Wooo friend, "project hope" has taught me a lot, but the most important thing is the people I have met, for me the publication of each person is very important and I am attentive to what they write to value and support their publications. This changed my life!

Obviously if you're in a position to help @fucho80 and his family with some small transfer of STEEM tokens, then please do not feel shy. Be generous instead :)
I've just transfered 100 STEEM, however I do not expect anyone else to support this case with similar amount. You can always resteem and upvote this publication (fucho80 will receive 100% rewards from this post as I set up his account as a beneficiary).

Thank you! Any contribution is good, but although that does not happen I feel happy with this gesture and I know that many here have the desire to help. Although someone does not have the ability to contribute, I understand and thank you for knowing that they value my work and respect what I do. Thanks in advance!

Perhaps you could also consider delegating 1 STEEM (literally one).
That simple gesture will not really change his financial situation for better, but it will surely show that we care. Sometimes it's what matters most.

Very good would be a great gesture, I plan to write here for a long time and some delegation would help me grow and be able to better reward your own work.

how to raise our kids?

There are three phrases that I would like to introduce here: Love, discipline, education.

Love will form a shadow of his character and leave a mark that will teach him to be a father or mother, will help him to interact in a respectful and human way with other people. Discipline prepares them for success, teaches them not to give up in difficult times, to get up and keep fighting, and education will give them the necessary tools to succeed economically.

how to ensure that they will not abandon us in the future?

This is very difficult to answer since each one will form their own character and make their own decisions in the future, in addition, we should not raise our children with the purpose of giving us back what we invest in them (it is my way of thinking) However, everything will depend on the positive influence you have on them beyond the provision you can give them, once again the secret is in love, respect and the example you give them, this will mark them and they will appreciate what you were With them as a father.

do we even believe that tradition of kids taking care of their parents will still exist in the next 20-30 years?

I think so, it is an innate condition of human beings, although there are exceptions I think this will always be the case.

Thanks friend, great post hahaha, you are an angel!
@fucho80

Hello sir @crypto.piotr and @fucho80. This is I can, hopefully useful. Blessing

No longer beautiful I am here, now I dowvote each of my posts ,, hhh, even though I bought bots on them, but they themselves downloaded my vote, they are cowards.

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In response to your request for input here @crypto.piotr and as a disciple of Jesus Christ, I would say that He has infinitely better input than I. Would does His word say?

”Behold, children are a gift of the Lord,
The fruit of the womb is a reward.
Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
So are the children of one’s youth.
How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them;
They will not be ashamed
When they speak with their enemies in the gate.”

Psalm 127:3-5

Children are ... Gifts! Blessings!! Do we believe that? As you ask in this post @crypto.piotr, what do we believe today? Children are far more than an ”investment in our future.” They are the future. Full stop. Period. In spite of the time in human history in which we all live, it is hard to imagine how any other logical conclusion can be drawn …

As a Pastor, @fucho80 will surely be quite familiar with this passage from the Bible:

”For You formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mother’s womb.
I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works,
And my soul knows it very well.”

Psalm 139:13-14

All the best to him and his family with their latest little gift of life!

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P.S. As an older man, “whose quiver is full of them”, one of my earliest posts was related to this question - Father's Day 2018: Children - Blessings of Life!!

P.P.S. As men, we are required to work to support our children. As we both labor together to add value to our Steem blockchain, here is a gift from my family to @fucho80’s family:

It is an honor to belong to your "project hope" @crypto.piotr. To have the possibility to read your words, for my pleasure.

The education of children is becoming more and more uphill. I consider that technology, communications are a weapon that can go against that education. But at the same time they are a tool for the growth and development of our children.

Well, then. I propose that the education of our children be based on love and that contact with current technologies be in constant supervision.

Complicated to carry in these times but it is a necessity, humanity needs that quota of love, today more than yesterday.

Upvoted and resteemed.
Good luck to your family @fucho80!

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I wish his family the best, and I pray his wife put to bed safely!!!

Nice of you @crypto.piotr for supporting your friend.. God bless... As you said earlier, children are blessing from God; as this new baby coming I pray more blessings be added to fucho80 family.

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From movies, I think kids taking care of their parents would be gone by 2025 but it's still here in Africa. Raising a kid as an investment in this day is not a wise thing to do. They grow wings and fly away so early.

Hi dear @fucho80

Wow friend, what a great happiness I feel for you and your family. the children are the extension of our life, and one could get to love them more than our own life, for them we are capable of doing things never thought, I must clarify as long as they are honest things for us and for others.

I congratulate you on the arrival of your Hij @ his uncle @lanzjoseg sends him many Blessings, that he is born healthy and strong. Just being born in Venezuela is a Winner and Winner.

Friend. as you well know all the problems that we can have and that everything that we gain here we sell it to buy food that is my case .. at this moment I do not have a penny that serves for you. but on my first payment I receive today I will send it to you ..

Blessings to your family.

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Friend @crypto.piotr Thank you, thank you, thank you for all the support you give us and all the opportunities to grow on this platform. and well also for the things you do in this way to ask for support for any of us.

Congratulations to the family of @fucho80!

As for making investments of your children:
In the past when most people were hunter-gatherers, it made sense to have a large family because your offspring became your workers.

Today is quite different and most people live in cities and work at jobs away from their properties. Children become liabilities, not investments.

As for God and religion: God sent me a message saying that most religions are interpreting their religious books incorrectly. The books could only be written from the then-current comprehension of mankind and lacked the words and ideas necessary to describe what God actually is. God has no gender, and if anything, women are the ones who bring life into the world, not men, so if you MUST put a gender on God, it would have to be a woman. In the old days, women were lesser than men, so they had to make God a man to enforce the idea of power.

Hello my friend @crypto.piotr I hope all is well for you.

Congratulations to our friend @fucho80 for his baby.

Kids need more education, I think education is the most important thing in life. But This include some interesting description how to educate them.

I’m sure each description has good results and we know there are many of those ones how to educate children.

We know that our future is not secure, we can not force our children to care about us, they don’t abandon us, the only this is that they start a new life, new family... but they will always be there with us.

This new generation is changing...

...... About supporting @fucho80 .. I did my small part sending him just a small transaction to care his family and his baby...

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Amigo,creo que para hacerse cargo de los padres en ese tiempodeben los padres dedicarle ahora mucjo a los hijos y que exista mucho amor entre ambos,Dios quiera eso pueda suceder,gracias por ayudarnos a los venezolanos,Dios lo cuide a usted.

@crypto.piotr meets crypto pastor ? :) way to adapt btw ...

I assume the situation in venezuela hasn't improved much even if there's zero news about it around here , and i'll also assume you're not in cahoots to scam people out of a few dollars. I can't spare much and im not the saviour of the people but i see if i can send 1 or 2 steem that way, might be two days to get that though ... for whatever its worth and im good for my word

Congratulations @fucho80 on this blessing that comes into your life, things are difficult but let's have a lot of faith and seek God's help, and everything will be fine.

Regarding the @crypto.piotr question, I personally believe that raising our children is the best investment of a lifetime, but I don't say it in the monetary aspect or because of the possibility of being raised by them in the future, nothing like that.

As parents we have the possibility to mold the mind and heart of a human being, giving him values and the best tools for him to perform in today's world, of course, letting them develop their own identity under our guidance. Our children are the seed that we will leave in the world when we are no longer in it.

In short, I love my children, and for that simple reason, spending time with them is the best investment of my life.

Greetings my son, @rael5, I love you and your brothers

Let's start answering in parts:

First I want to congratulate the initiative to help a compatriot of mine who is about to receive the beautiful gift of a son.

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With that in mind, I share the post, upvoted and delegated. I know there is little I can do, but I'm glad I can do something, even if it's just to congratulate.

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I think it was a French philosopher who said "We are all children of our time", it hurts that I do not remember what it was, at least if I have located that José Ortega y Gasset said something that is in this same tune "we are us and our circumstances" , so we can never leave out the context when we try to understand a group of people or one in individual.

I say the above in the sense that our sons and daughters have been born in a world different from ours, in their case they are digital natives, since when the WWW was booming it was that they were born and since the mid-90s of the Century XX, all of us who are from earlier date are something like "Digital Immigrants", we were born in a previous era and we have to adapt.

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Despite the generational change, there are certain things that I would like to think that we can pass on to our sons and daughters: A Scale of Values.

Without a clear distinction of the values ​​we have and those we want to convey things can be very unpleasant in the future. It is to think about it, because what they and they learn in their childhood from us will mark the treatment they will give us in their adulthood and it is not about what we want them to learn, but about the example we give, that models more than any word that Pronounce

Now, although I always hear that children are investments, I could never think of treating them in such a way, perhaps I was influenced by Khalil Gibran and the idea that children do not belong to us, that they are a loan that the future world makes us and that we will have You have to return them when they are ready. Of course, I do not approve of the abandonment of the parents, but I do understand that they are very likely to treat me in the same way they saw that I treated mine.

Changing the angle of the subject a bit, and introducing a bit of robotic technology for caring for people, I wanted to point out that with the poisoning of the population, countries like Japan have questioned what to do to be able to provide accompaniment to those who age alone.


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Being completely frank, I don't like it very much, but I understand that it is a possible future ... it may not be like having specialized personnel to take care of us, but it has some sadness, I don't know. Once one of my old relatives needed specialized care and her daughters hired a nurse, because with their jobs they could not be at home at all times, even today, I heard today that in Venezuela (with its migration problem, which leaves to many older people alone) there is a venture that is proposed as an "adoptive child", in which there are staff who serve as companions for the elderly, charging monthly fees to family members who are in other countries.

Happy to help. Steem is all about supporting one another.

Dear Piotr, thank you to share with us this important matter as our childs.
In this world where pollution and ecology are going every day worse, how can i be sure my son will survive after 50 years? He is now 5 years old and i am doing all my best to give him the base to live when he will be adult, but this is not enough, we need to act now about our planet ecology and your country have to stop to use carbon as main material for create energy, this would be the first step in the way to save our planet.

Congrats in advance to @Fucho80. Of course, raising kids is a great investment in their future. I have sent a token of 15 Steem. Cheers!

Some light...

how to raise our kids?

Go for it... it's my way. If you think there is some preparation, forget it. You either go for it, or you don't. The rest depends more on who you are than actually who you are going to raise.

how to ensure that they will not abandon us in the future?

That's is something you can't really think about if you want to raise children. Love and freedom need to coexist. If a parent does not understand when to let go, then it's being a BAD parent. Try to learn with your children... they probably will teach you more than you to them.

do we even believe that tradition of kids taking care of their parents will still exist in the next 20-30 years?

Not even now... or 10 years ago. Call me what you wish... =) it's my view.

@crypto.piotr, In my opinion whenever people do the Family Planning then definitely most of the people never think about the Investment aspect because in my opinion it's emotional side of life. But your question deserves view point because there are people who think their children as future investments and that's why before birth they plan everything.

For example, many parents try to plan everything for their children before they see this world like he/she will going to become doctor, engineer and so on without their children's consent and what they want to do or what they will going to choose when they will going to mature.

@fucho80, Wishing you great health and wealth brother. And praying that your child will enter in this world with Almighty Blessings and will going to spread that light in your family and house.

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Hii...@crypto.piotr , first a fall, its awesome your giving all the rewards of the post to someone who needs it, lovely.

Now, about the question your raised.

See, I don't really think having kids is good now, because we are facing a ecological crisis - there will be a world without air, water, greenery and I highly recommend everyone however harsh it may sound to not bring another being to suffer in this world. I am speaking really seriously. Please consider adopting a kid instead.

Next on kids future... I can't speak on this much, but you have to believe in love. If you grow your kids spending quality time with them, exposing them to the outdoors, doing fun activities with them, you will bond with them!!!

Please don't bother weather they will take care of you in the future, that's upto them, but our focus is to be the best parent raising kids with good values. Please believe in atleast relationship, if not humanity, I am sure kids will love and take care of their parents, if they don't, they don't.

Our job as parents is instill them values, prepare them to be the bestest them that they can be. But don't you think, parents themselves don't spend quality time with their kids, they themselves are hooked to technology, let their kids get hooked onto technology, don't notice kids, don't understand their kids, all because they are not spending quality time with them?.

It's believe we are not raising kids properly and being good role models that kids become like what you said. Teach them to love, be responsible, independent, brave, proactive, humble.

Have fun with them - play, read stories, crack jokes, do some outdoor activity, have dinners together, talk with them. Establish a bond!!!

Anyway... But I again emphasize, please don't procreate now, because the world is already finding it difficult to sustain itself. Let's work to improve soiety, ecology and enjoy life instead.

Great topic @crypto.piotr. Well, raising children as a future investment is a core value here in Africa. Even parents with little income strive for their kids to go to university, have a well-paying job and care for them in old age. But then, as an IT person, I wont leave my entire future in the hands of kids (I have none and am single) you are not even sure of. Parents work hard to raise responsible kids, but they grow up to choose their life. SO for me, its a 50-50 thing. Instead of putting all eggs in one basket, I have planned and am working into building a reputable IT company, which I hope to grow so much that even before retirement, I have something to fall back on and a legacy for my unborn kids.

I sent 10 Steem to @fucho80 on behalf of my friend @crypto.piotr

Thanks for sharing with me with this post... You are great person it's nice from You for sharing with price from that post. 😉

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WOULD YOU CONSIDER RAISING KIDS AS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE?

Absolutely fucking not. I'm not gonna raise my kids just so they become my investments in the future. NO. As parents, it is their responsibility to give their kids a good life, without needing to pressure them to help them with financial needs in the future. If you can't take care of your kids, don't have kids. If you only have kids because you see them as slaves who will work for you and will take care of you when you retire, don't have kids. Kids have their own lives. They will have their own family. It is the parent's job to feed themselves when they get old, not the kids. Honestly, this tradition is sick and needs to stop. Stop seeing kids as your investment plans.

Have kids because you believe life is beautiful and it needs to be experienced.

Got the memo so I upvoted

I do feel that I need to raise my kids to be good people but I don't worry about doing it so they can take care of me. I don't see this being as big in the future. As tech keeps on making life at home easier here the west I doubt it will be needed as much. I also lost my parents pretty young so I am aware that I might not even be there for them to take care of.

This is why now that my oldest is 4 I am starting to talk to her about being a good person and being her own person. I was raised to do the right thing when I can. I want to make sure she is the same way. I also want to make sure she will be away that not all people are that way. But not to worry if they fool you once just not to let it happen again. I think that if we can do this then if we need their help later in life they will be ready to give it.

I do get that if you don't live in a country like mine it might be different

I don't put in doubt that family love will always be the biggest truth. I mean, we know time passes and life changes, but conception will also be an amazing process, you know? I would say experience, but I am speaking, or writting, from the possibility that in future there could be other ways to conceive. I don't know. ANyways, I hope it goes everything fine with your friend and his new life.

@crypto.piotr: When you say "an investment in our future", if you mean our collectively (like in the human race), I suppose that goes without saying. Without kids, the human race is doomed. But since that is obvious, I suspect you mean an investment in the parents future.

While I believe that kids should look after their parents when the parents can't look after themselves, I don't think that's the reason to have kids. We took my mother-in-law in this past spring because her husband had passed away last year and her health is declining. We did it because we care for her and her well-being, not because of some notion of an obligation. We have also taken in one of our son's and his family because of their (hopefully!) temporary situation.

It is because of our relationships we do these things. If the parents had lousy relationships with their kids, they shouldn't expect much. But if our relationships are healthy and strong, then they would naturally wish to help as well as they can, just as we have.

having a child is a blessing for all of us, maybe securing their future to come is the best way to express your love. But a parent's love is the most important of all. I hope he can receive lot of blessings, I'm happy for him to have a new born child.

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Congratulations to @fucho80!

I am not sure what you meant by "investment" in this context. Are you referring to potential future monetary returns?

I personally think that raising a kid should never be treated as an "investment". I think one should not have any expectations on your kids as a form of revenue stream in the future. I think the older generation (especially Chinese) had this thinking of raising kids for future financial security. That's fundamentally flawed. I think as a responsible adult, one should be planning for his/her own finances to ensure there's sufficient money for retirement. We should not impose additional stress on future generations

I think it would be an understatement to just say caring for our children as just an investment for our future. It is I think a calling that gives full meaning of our humanity. It is who we are and nature just supports it by supplying all the love and affection we need to take care of them. With or without real world benefits I feel like loving and taking care of them all the way. By the way, thanks @crypto.piotr for always messaging us and keeping us updated of your worthwhile posts. I admire your patience and dedication in doing all of these.

First and foremost, congratulations to @fucho80 and his wife on the upcoming birth of their baby.

I don't view raising children as an investment but as an act of love.

As for whether children will be there to take care of their parents in the future, I think that depends on how they were raised. If they are raised in a family where people act out of love to help and care for family members, they most likely will. If they are raised in a family that views having to take care of elderly family members as a burden and they complain about it, more than likely they won't be there to help.

I know my son grew up seeing Bob and I care for my inlaws. At a young age, he started doing small things to help them out without being asked. He was also there when I was caring for my husband when he was dying. Again DJ voluntarily stepped to help by doing what he could. DJ was 16 when his Dad died.

Since that time he has been there for my Mom, who past away in April. He has a very close relationship with my Dad and offers to help out when he sees something he can do. He acts out of love and not a sense of duty. He has grown up to be a kind, loving, and compassionate gentleman.

• how to raise our kids? - with love
  • how to ensure that they will not abandon us in the future? - if they been raised with love they always will be with you.
  • do we even believe that tradition of kids taking care of their parents will still exist in the next 20-30 years? - Kids are and will be connected to the parents they have because it is they real home and they love back the parents which raised them.

Many parents think they love their kids but the do not. They love them self at firs and think whats good for them has to be good for their kids but that's not love.

This is the kind of thinking that burdens kids. Yes it's the thought culture of older generation but yes it is already outdated. It causes resentment in adulthood to find out you're alive only to be used by your parents and not because you are a product of their love. Nope. Don't have kids if you're only going to use them when you grow old.

Let's have the decency and respect to have our own investment for the older version of ourselves. Let's change that burdening thought culture and be proud to have children because of love not because they will be a source of money and will be our future caretakers.

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I dont see it as an investment, you don't make kids just to help you when you are old. We are made to procreate. I tried to make kids a few years ago with no luck

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Hello, friends. First, I want to express my best wishes to my fellow Venezuelan @fucho80 and his family.

I have no children but I know how difficult it is to sustain here the survival of our loved ones (especially when they cannot care for themselves). I hope you will remain healthy and strong, dear @fucho80, despite all these difficulties.

My upvote is rather insignificant but I am sending you 2 STEEM here by Tipu, hoping that those little coins will add to the help of our other friends, contributing for a good sum at this critical moment.

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Your post's subject touched one of my main interests, @crypto.piotr, perhaps one that is very painful. I think that this matter has become a real problem which our societies don't know how to face.

I know that there are many differences between the social conditions when comparing many countries, and certainly many more between developed ones and others undeveloped (like Venezuela) that suffer incredible limitations. But the whole dynamic of modernity affects all our countries in the so called "western society" by means of globalization.

And in that modern dynamic we could see something whose implications are really frightening: there are no more families. You should know this: Even in Venezuela, the formation of solid families is already something very rare. In my generation, I know so few people that could enjoy a real family. And of course, forget about the creation of a large family with many kids.

I am certain that this is symptomatic about the decline of the western culture, its factual inner disintegration. So, very soon the doubt won't be whether it is a good investment to have many kids or not... Soon our doubt will be whether family is good or not.

Maybe I'm trying to bring a hope I really don't have, when I say soon... because I don't think it's a problem of our future. It is already here. Please take a look at this video of L. Southern:

The thought that a baby born now can live to see the year 2100 is amazing.

It is our obligation to raise our children.Parent are the one l ING for a children so we must raise them according to our capacity. Congratulation to the parent and may the baby grow healthy and obedient to his parent. I also appreciate @crypto.piotr for helping them. For me, it is my obligation as a mother. I have only one children and now a father of two. Yes it is an investment, look at me, I have one and now I have two grandchildren and wife of my son. We became a big family. I believe they will not abandon me someday because of them I am sacrificing myself for their better life. Thank you.

Technology will move forward, new development takes places daily which will not be stopped, it is human nature to explore.

What is not human nature is walking around with blinkers on, the lack of food and water resources should stop anyone in their tracks before considering bringing more children into an over-burdened world.

Children do not owe the parents anything in their old age, where does this notion come from that one must not prepare for your own old age. Children face many different obstacles on life's path, I know many beliefs support the idea/notion that children must look after their aged parents.

Looking around at my own situation, a country with the highest number of youth in the world, the highest unemployment, crime is rampant, when do people take account of themselves?

Long term solutions need to be sought after, assisting where we are able never makes the problem go away, one child going to bed hungry is one child too many!

Hello!!! I don't think I can consider kids as an investment. It's your family, so you have to love and support them unconditionally... but I don't think parents should expect their kids to payback.

That's what I think, but I'm very close to my parents. They have nurtured me and raised me and were with me through thick and thin... I know it's not my obligation to give back, but I want to give whatever I can for them. They're my favorite people in the world.

I can understand kids who leave their parents and become independent... and start a life of their own. I think it's normal. But there will always be kids like me who prioritize family over everything. :) It's my choice...

So, family is family. You love and support unconditionally without expecting in return. ^^

Raising a child so that children become smarter and more mature in acting all depends on the upbringing of their parents, because when observed along with the development of time and technology, sometimes parents are negligent in paying attention to things like gadgets, children become addicted and become oblivious to lessons. therefore I say it all depends on the training of each parent and thank you @crypto.piort for the memos maybe now I have rarely opened steemit😄🙏

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This is great initiative by you @crypto.piotr and congrats to @fucho80 for the baby.

As you asked if our kids will take care of us after 20-30 years then. I think this would be difficult and looking at the current scenario when we can see many kids who are not even interested to stay with their parent so after next 20 years things will not be like this. I just think that we should do our part and should not expect much from the next generation. If they do then its good but if they dont then life will be a challenge for sure.
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Hi Piotr,
I am older as you and I am not raised that children are an investment for your future.

Children you make take care of themselves as soon as possible, you teach them as much as they can so they can survive, have self-esteem and succeed.

Even my grandfather wanted his daughters (only children) to be independent. They both studied and provided in their own income. Women were according to him not the ones who were breeding machines and should serve man.

I do not, and never expected, my children to take care of me. They have to build their own lives and I expect them to let me do the same once they are adults.
This does not mean we do not take care of each other. We do in times of need if money is needed or a car broke etc.

In the Netherlands you have social security and there are food banks, give away shops where you can get everything for free. You do not need to die for hunger or cold unless you are lucky, want everything brand new and are too lazy to work.

The last thing I would worry about was health conditions in a hospital. In the Netherlands it is still normal to give birth at home (in a natural way without injections), breastfeeding is still stimulated and mother nature knows what to do.

There are way more chances of infections, strange batteries in a hospital as at home. If allergies run into the family it is also way better to stay at home.
You are not ill if you get a baby it is something natural.

To deliver a baby you need nothing special just to know that billions of women did it before you.

In this time I would never take children anymore. They deserve a better life and future as the aggression and rapes around us. I did not raise or prepare them for what happens now, the hate, the way they are discriminated. I guess they had the bad luck to have an old mom.

I hope they will never have children (3 out of 5 say they do not want them) and will be able to give themselves a good life wherever that may be.

Congratulations @fucho08 I hope your little one will have a bright future and your wife is doing well.
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Hello Piotr,

nice initiative for your friend @fucho80’s family! Congrats @fucho80 to your new family member!

how to raise our kids?

Give them as much room as possible to let them grow into independent and strong people. Make sure that all they need to succeed in this is available to them.

how to ensure that they will not abandon us in the future?

Don't do that! It's their choice to abandon or not to abandon. If their environment of upbringing has showed this to be a part of society as a whole they maybe will consider not to abandon us.

do we even believe that tradition of kids taking care of their parents will still exist in the next 20-30 years?

We see these traditions erode right now already. Many families have to generate at least two incomes to keep everything economically a float. Taking care of the elders is tough with both parents working. In my estimation the future in this doesn't look all peachy and nice. I believe we'll have less multi generation families under one roof and more placing of elders in nursing homes or with dedicated payed help in their homes. One factor might also be service robots that will be used to reduce such costs further.

Cheers!

Delegated to the cause. Great article. So true that children are the best investment for our future. Best regards.

I already have my investment in bringing up children. What was true twenty years ago, as if it wasn't today. But it is still the best one can do. Technology will not teach us humanity. That's why parents are here.

That's nice to see you recognizing that a human being is the best investment one can ever make. It is also good for the soul.
Are you and your partner getting ready for your own?

Dear @crypto.piotr,
You post some difficult question here buddy. I say difficult because there cannot be a right or wrong answer here.
We need to make our own choices because we are all in different circumstances and no one else can decide for us
as per the some of the points

• how to raise our kids?
  Do parents really raise children or is it the other way round? I feel children give you the opportunity of being a parent. By the birth of a child the focus changes from two individuals to the new little one in the family. I feel people evolve to become a bit more loving and considerate.
• how to ensure that they will not abandon us in the future?
  I feel having children is not like buying a old age policy. Give them love, care and your time hopeful you would get the same. There is no escape from the law of karma. What goes around comes around. If caring is a quality we want to inculcate in our children then the best way is to care for our parents and let the children bloom in the warmth of strong family ties.
• do we even believe that tradition of kids taking care of their parents will still exist in the next 20-30 years?
  Ya why not ? so much has changed over centuries, kingdoms have been formed and destroyed and new tech has emerged. Yet the old and much hyped emotion of love has still not become obsolete.
  So till the time we humans exists love should prevail and bind us together in one form or another.
  To dear @fucho80 I offer my congratulations. Being a Pastor he knows it better than I do that the little one would surely come with his/ her share of good luck and hopefully things should get better and better from here on.

First of all, congratulations to @fucho80 and his family! I wish them well.

I personally will definitely try my best to raise my children well but not as investments. I will do it as my responsibility and obligation as a parent. I am aware that one day I will be too old to look after myself and I will be needing someone to take care of me. While it will be nice to have my children to take care of me, I will not force it on them.

At the same time, I don't think they will abandon me for being old unless I am toxic to them or need constant attention. I feel that this tradition is slowly dying because I have come across a few people who left their parents in the old age homes which I find a little sad because the old people often get upset and wish for the presence of their children.

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well done, thanks for being here

sorry for the returned msg's from @goldmanmorgan ... i'm not 100% sure but my guess is a combination of not being in the localized 'client' list and the fact i only yesterday discovered a cronjob on Hostinger hasnt been running for an indefinite period (it just does that by default, @goldmanmorgan as 'client' accounts have no use for sending steem so while your accountname is one of the localized wallets it will send it back, so never mind that and actually thanks lol stuff like that could end up a lot worse ...

Hi @crypto.piotr

Hope you are still doing well my friend. Thanks for the messages every now and then. Think I'll be back here for a while. Drop by when you have some time

and again, sorry for that (tx from @goldmanmorgan) im trying to add something new and went a few transactions back too far

Interesting ... I definitely believe investing in you're children's eduction is a path to financial success. Thanks for the post!

Yes, Because childrens are the one that will take care of us when we become old. We're not investing for money here but we are investing Love and Caring here. Here in PH, it's already a traditional that the children will take care of there parents when they become old.

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