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Make sure 1 of them is palnet
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That is all.
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Very interesting experiments, for sure. I've been using palnet now, too. I just wish we could use more tags. With Actifit I can use a lot of them! 😂
Well considering the other tags like: life, photography, art ..... I mean, who really looks through them as tags? So ditch one of those useless ones for your useful ones, ones which actually bring you benefit.
PALnet seems really, really cool. I recently started to use it, and I admit that I still haven't read too much about it. I do understand that it's easy and that you should use the tag "palnet" etc.
What I wonder is, when are you supposed to use that tag? On what type of articles? I mean, I've read about nopal4u and a bunch of other "rules" and "guidelines" about not trying to abuse or take advantage of the rewards etc.
But would it be safe to say that you can use the palnet tag whenever you publish content? Basically like people use the tag "writing" whenever they publish an article?
Yep, "double-dipping" is absolutely welcomed! Some people are even triple dipping by using the tags #weedcash (because the post is about weed), and #palnet (because they want that post and its comments to be a part of the palnet ecosystem), along with posting through the busy.org front end to get the upvote from them as well.
https://www.palnet.io/busy/@whatsup/i-m-double-dipping-with-pal
It is totally encouraged to tag every single blog you write from this point forward, with palnet as 1 of the 5 tags.
Looking forward to seeing you in my feed there @hitmeasap :) Thanks for asking that question!
I see, so it's basically like I thought it would be. Thanks for the clarification though, I appreciate it. - Let's see how things goes. :)
Yes, on any type of post is fine!
Yes and Palnet at least provides some protection from steemit bullies, I may have lost my steem on a post due to retaliation flags for having an opinion, but I kept my Pal tokens. I do feel sorry for those that lost their potential curation, but I will take care of them.
Thank you for adding your voice to this conversation @shadowmask!
so nice comparison! At last my Sis is in safe;)
Pretty cool indeed :) And I'm happy to see you using the #palnet tag now too!
hey talia where are you articles about the CPS and children did you give up lol
also you are the only one i never get replies from
is it cause of beanie and marky or did i do something to offend you
have a great day and at least those scumbags cant take your rewards from palnet but i dont think they ever bothered you and its probably a good reason no to reply to me
hey lyndsay jerkoff is still at it lol
cheers people
I hadn't really thought about how the steemit downvote bots can't remove talcoin from your posts, that's really cool! Now I'm even more glad that palnet is available!
Heartening eh? :) I'm glad to give you another reason to be happy about #PALnet!!
Very cool. I've started using steempeak a lot more now since they have tribe integration and its helped me curate a lot more content and my commenting and engaging has seriously gone way up. I think on steemit we all get a bit of scroll fatigue with all the garbage you see since you get a sort of unfiltered view of what's going on. communities like this really help uncover what you would like to see and im sure it's only going to get better with time
Yes steempeak rocks!
Well this looks exciting Lyndsay.
Will certainly take a look. Cheers my friend x
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Yep, I'll see you there once you start adding the palnet tag into your posts! xo Looking forward to seeing your special gal... <3 <3 <3 Hope she's still growing nicely!
Communities are not going to be a bad thing, but they aren't good enough yet IMHO. For example, your problems on Steem (my own mirror them) are due to one Steemer flagging incessantly. However, PAL has just demonstrated they can do worse than Bernie because they have prevented a Pal from posting at all.
Frying pans, fire, and all that.
We need more communities, so that there are frying pans we can jump to when the one we're in gets too hot, rather than only having a choice between that and the fire.
WARNING: IF YOU REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT YOU WILL BE FLAGGED, YOUR REP HARMED AND ALL OF YOUR REWARDS REMOVED. DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THE TRASH. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
I'm glad they're not putting up with abuse there, it's a community I'm proud to be a part of. Peace, Abundance and Liberty. Yes, they moderate. It's only just the beginning, you will see how it unfolds.
Editing in: I can still see all the death threats, sexual harassment of the elderly and death wishes given to cancer patients by viewing the blockchain through the other user interfaces.
Clearly folks that think death threats are humor exist, and I'm pretty sure a community of such would find a lot of users. PAL doesn't seem like they want to be that community. Censorship and moderation are hand and glove. Since one's poison is another's ambrosia, one size fits all is going to become obsolete IMHO. If PAL tries to get everyone in snowsuits, there's gonna be a lot of folks uncomfortable.
When communities arise that allow other forms of dress, PAL will lose them as want to wear bikinis. This diversification is just beginning, and I reckon that's a good thing, and it'd be a good thing if PAL looked to being a community for certain folks. To do that, there need to be rules that are reasonable and comfortable to those folks. Bernie and coininstant prolly aren't those folks.
They seem to reckon different rules should apply to them, and when they have a community with rules they find reasonable, PAL won't have to worry about them stirring up drama.
You're right. We'll see how things shake up. They're gonna shake up for sure.
They actually announced on a nopal4u post when talking about coininstant's comment to Gtg, as reason to ban or silence him, and or create a 1 a day limit for him to post, again not sure on the details.. only glazed over it.. however somehow the 'kawaiicrush' account was lumped into the post as an account who was going to be included in this same ban.. which was later 'edited out'. The funny thing about this whole situation is that this account has never once used the pal tag, and to be honest banning someone who has never used the tag/platform is absurd. They also "muted" the kawaiicrush account whilst it has NEVER messaged them, or make a post about them. Not even once. Trust me, knowing how centralized they are proving they are.. it is not something I wish to be a part of anyhow. Hence why I have not, and never will use their tag. I knew about them long before this post announcing the ban of coininstant/kawaiicrush, and still didn't use the tag. So don't flatter yourself.
That part is not for you Lyndsay just telling my experience pertaining to the topic to valued customer :)
Now as far as you go Lyndsay I can see why you are enjoying it, and it is benefiting you for sure. However if they can ban someone whom has never even used the platform, and therefore has not broken any rules.. as was never there to break any rules.. then this really goes to show irrational centralized decision making. Also to lump someone in (kawaiicrush) to a post announcing a ban of someone who made a death threat (not saying he did or did not but that is what they are accusing him of) is absolutely insane.
That is like arresting someone for a crime which they have never committed because some other guy committed the crime which the one being punished arrested had nothing to do with.
Absolutely an abuse of power, illogical, irrational, bad decision making, a tell tale sign of things to come i am sure.
I am personally not interested in any centralized coins anyhow. Much less one that bans accounts which have never even used the service, much less broken any rules.
If they really wanted to show leadership they would ban 'you know who', but of course they don't.. because it is the same shit different pal, oh I mean pile :)
Take care guys.
Stay safe
As for you pal don't flatter yourself. I wouldn't use your garbage shit coin if you paid me to take it. I never said one bad thing about your project but since you are showing us what is WRONG with it eg centralized, drunk on power, favoring particular people based on affiliation, banning people whom have never even used your tag EVEN ONCE. You just proved a whole lot about yourselves.
Same birds of a feather flocking together. Trying to get people to sell their Steem, to join you over in the next centralized shit show of a frying pan.
This post is for anyone who wants to read it and is just expressing what I have witnessed in my own personal experience related to this topic above. What colored glass would you say I am looking through on Pal? I call it shit stain brown. But if you know the right people it can be crystal clear. Hence success by nepotism.
The above message is not directed at you Lyndsay and I am sure you have nothing to do with the horrible decision making of the leaders of pal. I am speaking from my own personal experience, as someone whom has never used the platform/tag, and telling my personal experience. So please do not assume any of this is directed at you. I can only share my own personal experience, as you have shared yours.
Wish you all the best.
That is strange, unless it's possible they considered @kawaiicrush and @coininstant to both be accounts of one user, or something similar. Bernie has many socks, and clearly it would be futile to ban one of the accounts and not the others.
I can see how this upsets you, and also why you'd be disinterested in PAL, both for the reason of the centralization, and how your account was involved in the @coininstant matter.
I will say that networking, discussions with like-minded folks, even echo chambers, aren't nepotism. While obviously like minded folks will agree amongst themselves, and be able to more easily agree on policy than folks that don't, that doesn't taint such association. Folks live in societies, and are more effective when working together than constantly opposing one another. That's just how shit gets done IRL.
It's why I recommended that PAL focus on a particular demographic, the sort of member they'd feel comfortable working with, and to create rules for that group. As communities begin to eventuate, various rulesets are going to as well, and folks are going to be members of some communities and not others. If we can't accept that there are communities we aren't in, there's gonna be a lot of drama, and needlessly.
All too often demonizing groups we aren't members of creates conflict that causes a lot of harm, when just minding one's own business - as you seemed to have been doing prior to being muted - enables actual productive development instead.
It seems likely that some groups or parties aren't going to just stand by and let others mind their own business. Muting you seems to be an example of exactly that, unless there's some link other than acquaintance between you and @coininstant (which I am not saying, and neither am I saying that is necessarily reasonable), but that is simply an example of the problem that can be avoided by establishing fair and reasonable rules before people just start lashing out.
Just acting because one is angry generally increases problems, rather than solving them. I try not to do it, although I find anger appropriate and useful when conditions warrant. I also don't think it's wrong to call things as you see them, but it is important to first see clearly.
'Be always sure you are right, then go ahead.'--Davy Crockett
I am not opposing Pal. I never spoke of them, posted about them, used their tag/website etc. I was shown a post in which it was announced coininstant was being banned or restricted from Pal due to "his" actions.
They know this account is not coininstants. So for personal reasons they wanted to toss this account into the salad mix of someone (they were saying) is death threating people. To further attempt to smear this channel.
So as such this Pal account was "opposing" me, not the other way around. How can I oppose something that I have never spoke of, used, or even attempted to be a part of? The only reason I mention what I have now mentioned is because it is what has happened to me, and was pertaining to the topic above. Had they not lumped me into a guy being banned for death threats (according to them) we would not be here having this conversation.
I am not "demonizing them" in fact the exact opposite is true. I was busy minding my own business doing my own thing.. when "I was lumped into a post" about a guy death threating Gtg. Which is in fact "demonizing me".
Then I respond concerning the experience I have had with them, which they have created. And I am suddenly demonizing them? And opposing them? It seems the opposite is in fact true. And if now the truth doesn't spell pretty it is because of the bed that they have made pertaining to this situation.
I was silently letting them do their thing. Choosing to not involve myself in any way shape or form. Hopeful that they would give Steemians a new hope.
It is not my fault they have been making bad decisions as leaders.
I am hardly acting angry. I am explaining my experience with them as this post was concerning "looking through Pal colored glasses".
I have had enough of this bullshit. People on here shit all over others, and then if you dare mention it.. suddenly it is your fault for dare speaking up about what THEY did.
I was more than happy to let them do their thing. I am all about live, and let live. But that is not good enough for some people. They have to pull the old Nah nah nah nah nah nah.. we have a coin.. and you can't touch it. Meanwhile I had no part in it, and never wanted to even when encouraged to join in using the tag.
Your usually bang on with your judgement. But I absolutely disagree with you on this one man.
Wish you all the best.
Peace
Here is a screen grab from their Steemd:
Immature, and centralized. = Fail
That's what I said. I think you may be applying my statements that I intended generally to you personally. Given you are personally at the center of this matter, I can understand how that could happen, but it's not what I intended.
That being said, you have made statements out of anger, and in my opinion are demonizing PAL as a result. So, you can apply my comment to you in that context, but while I was replying to your comment, like you were in that comment, I was also speaking to a general audience.
I believe you do know I try to be reasonable in my speech, and recommend the same. I also reckon you can recognize that not all of your comment was strictly reasonable and that due to your emotional state you lash out with inflammatory statements. I'm not even saying that's not your right. I am simply of the belief that doing so tends to increase drama and prevent potential mutual benefit.
You are not wrong to find being muted for zero reason offensive, and nothing I said was intended to claim you were wrong to do so. If I miscommunicated, it is a personal failure, and will be an example that will inspire me to work harder to communicate more clearly what I intend.
Thanks for helping me to be a better writer. I appreciate your forthright criticism.
Edit: I want to add that I am replying to you personally here, and not to others that did not join the conversation. I am not addressing the same actions undertaken by others I am addressing you undertaking. That doesn't mean I am on their side, or against you. It just means they're not joining in the conversation, so I'm not addressing them in the same way.
I repeat: I don't think you're wrong to object to being muted for no reason.
HOORAY Palnet! :D
everybody who posted here is awesome and yes we so far are safe from the flagging jerkoffs on palnet and lets hope it lasts
and when i say jerkoffs that are flaggin for those of you who dont know they are BEANIE/MARKY
for you canadians out there happy kommunist kanada day
peace love and anarchy without the flaggers on palnet
cheers
https://partiko.app/kawaiicrush/nepotism-alive-and-well-on-pal-same-shit-different-pal-oh-i-mean-pile?referrer=nutritree
Something still seems off. I was blocked because of steem actions.
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shitshow has started and ive heard from quite a few people about what kuweii is saying and others are backing it all the way while others still love palnet
i dont know what to think now lol
what do you think about this
im using both places and its not like i put any money into this so if its all true im not losing anything really really strange
You are not blocked from palnet.io ...
You made my comment invisible, or tried to anyway. I guess when you do it, it's okay right cuntface?
Hey man would you mind sharing about this.. I am trying to put the picture together.. and am highly curious about censorship against anyone.. would you perhaps share a screen shot or link for us.. I would be willing to create a post to cover what has happened to you.
https://steempeak.com/steemit/@mepatriot/how-much-longer-steemit-are-we-going-to-allow-single-urpose-downvoting-machines-here
While I full heartedly disagree with his statement. And I have been an advocate for the gentleman he directed his statement towards. I believe that censorship is not the answer. Not on a decentralized platform. However of course if it is a centralized platform then of course that would be much different. It just depends which it is. If it is indeed central, or private then of course everyone should have the power to do as they wish with their business.. aka facebook, youtube, etc.
Sure it starts with someone like him who is being a blatant jerk. However how much sooner, or later, is the censorship just done willy nilly.. based on personal dislike.. over an actual real cause. Eg. I was banned and never even used the tag/platform once. That is centralized decision making.
Lastly and most importantly why has not the biggest abuser on all of Steem(it) been banned from Pal? Whom actually has used the Pal tag.. and really does harass everyone from cancer patients, to women and children? Right down to death threats?
The message they are sending by not banning Bernie is loud and clear. It is the same shit different pile unfortunately. I wanted to sit back and watch, and give them a real chance via observation. However in just a short time they have burned all bridges of hope that I once had when I first heard of them. Even this Bernie/Pal fight is staged. Letting you off the hook is their way of tricking you into thinking Bernie isn't part of it. However I assure you he 100% is. So since they are behaving as centralized. In this case, until they ban Bernie I have zero respect for that platform, and they are sending their message to Steem(it) loud and clear.
Wish you all the best.
The above quote is not appropriate for a centralized platform. It is my own personal belief system. Clearly Pal does not share that sentiment based on obvious censorship decisions.
Feel free to go give viraldome's comment an upvote then if you think it deserves more earnings. That comment was sitting at 25 cents, and I flagged it because I disagreed with those rewards.
First of all I never said it deserved more earnings. So lets not put words on the page that are not there.
My question directed at the man up top was concerning censorship, I was wondering what type of censorship as he did not say.
I said why is "Bernie Sanders" not being censored/banned. But these other accounts are being addressed in such a way.
Since Pal is clearly centralized then in that case they should use some of that centralized power to get rid of the biggest abuser of all time "Bernie". That is the point of my 2nd comment in this string which was directed at you.
Getting rid of people who have never used the platform, while the biggest abuser of all time is allowed to partake.. is like getting rid of Hitlers dog.. while letting him go on killing Jews.
My point is there are bigger fish to fry, than banning people whom have never, not even once.. used the platform.
But you didn't address that. You just gave a strawman argument telling me to give money to the guy. No one was saying to give the guy money.
My point was so much larger than the guy above this string of comments.
Why worry about the tar tar sauce in the kitchen of the Titanic, and if it tastes just right.. while the hull has a massive hole in it from an ice burg.. and the ship is sinking. Bernie is that hole in the hull. So again.. if Bernie is not behind Pal.. why is he not banned since Pal is clearly centralized? They do say death threats are reason for ban on this 'Liberty' website.. so where is the liberty in allowing him to stay? And who could possibly argue for him to stay and remain unbanned.. while the platform is keeping busy banning those whom have never even used it.
You are a smart lady Lyndsay. You know for a fact that no where did I say that man deserved more. I was inquiring pertaining to his claims of censorship on Pal, seeing as my own recent experience was a distasteful one with them. I was curious to learn more about his. All while completely disagreeing with his statement.
But instead of having a decent conversation with me about real questions, and concerns that I have brought up, you instead gave me that.
You of all people should be concerned why he is allowed over there. However I think we both know the answer. One of us will admit it, and the other will change the topic to discussing things that were never said, instead of trying to find answers.
So on that note. Take care.
You are not banned from palnet, I'm reading your comments just fine on the site.
I was lumped into a post concerning coininstant and the ban/rules being put in place for him due to his actions which I had nothing to do with. I was later edited out from the post. However this still exists (see screen shot below). Not that I care. In fact I am glad this happened. They just saved me wasting my hard earned money on it. Just wanted to share my experience with the general public. I would have no way of knowing if they carried anything out in the end concerning a ban as I have previously mentioned I have not used the platform ever. I only can go on what they say in their own posts that they write. So based on what 'they said', and then 'did' (see screen shot below).. was why I came to the conclusion about their centralized bad decision making process which is evident just a month in.
Wish you all the best. Take care dear.
I was the one that was blocked on palnet, however they let me have 1 post or comment every 24 hours, so I am not 💯 blocked! I agree, it is still better than steemit because things don’t seem to grey out as much????
Check this out, I think he is out of line!
Here's how I see things as having progressed: (from a total outsider view)
You have been a great Steemian for years.
Your blogs are original.
You have helped the Steem community a lot with your curation through those years giving out tonnes of upvotes to others and not just yourself
Then you wrote a blog about thou who shalt not ever be named lol @beaniesanders
He started targeting you. At first you just retaliated against him, then still nothing changed, so you began to flag others who had nothing to do with the fact that beanie was flagging you.
I wish you would just stay focussed on who the real target of your rage should be. The one who flagged all of your posts and comments, and spammed you, the one who caused all the hateful feelings inside you.
When you came to palnet, you were excited. I was excited for you too, for the same reasons! A way we can finally make the bullies irrelevant. We will just bypass them altogether by becoming our own community.
https://www.palnet.io/palnet/@coininstant/palnet-vs-steemit
Next a few of your posts lost their palcoin because of people on steemit's flags, and they had staked palcoin. I wish you could have just given it more of a chance, I know we could have put those posts back in the positive, I wish that you just gave it a bit of time...instead of instantly writing posts about how shit palnet.io is for your loss on those posts.
We all know how it has escalated from there. And like I said, imo you are angry at the wrong people. This is all because of beanie. All of it. Not palnet.io. Not any of the people you've flagged (outside of beanie and his asskissers on his blog).
Just think back to where it all started.
For me, I'm giving palnet a chance. I dropped the flag war fight a while ago, and am excited to start fresh. I don't like conflict, I want peace.
I'm opting in for a bit of moderation. If it gets to feel like censorship, I'll leave. So will others. The value of the coin will speak for itself. In the end we can only wait and see.
I've tried unmoderated steem for almost 3 years now. After being targeted so much, I'm willing to test out some moderation.
I've never had a problem with any of the mods on PALnet. A few of them I know and talk to, they are great Steemians who actually give a fuck. The ones I know are gentle, and don't want to fight either. Yet, they will protect their new home, their community, because they don't want it to turn into another steemit.
The very thing we all want to get away from.
I'm sorry that you were banned and not beanie. If he starts behaving the way you were there, and they don't ban him, that will speak for itself as well and I won't be hanging around.
Only time will tell, and I'm giving peace a chance!
Thanks, great recap & 100% accurate!
I will give PAL another chance. I suppose I should just save all my flags 4 beanie! Good idea! 💡 I was just flagging his innocent bystander’s comments!
Thanks 🙏!
Sorry again to see they're doing that to you, but I am happy that your posts on Palnet shows perfectly, they are good guys, I am also using Palnet tag, though my activity became less, but I am really happy to see the new great community starting on blockchain. wishing luck for you <3
I'm happy you are using the tag now too Davood, cheers to new beginnings!
Hey, I need to test this out and you deserve more coins, so: have a !beer
Hmmm, maybe it's still turned off after the scammer?