German Road Trip: still in juterbog, former GDR, Altes Lager September 2020
In 1870 the Prussian army bought a parcel of land near to juterbog to construct a military camp This site was called ‘Lager 1’, but with the building of a second camp the name Altes Lager’ (old site) was given
Post Franco-Prussian War some 9000 french prisoners of war were used as forced labor to expand the camp.
By 1934, Jüterbog’s military areas comprised the biggest troop-training center in Germany. And the expansion continued.
Inhabitants of neighboring villages had to leave as the total military site was extended to more than 27,000 acres.
Now there is not much left,buildings have been demolished to make way for bigfuckoff windmills. Still I guess it makes the socks and sandals brigade happy.
A nice quiet stroll through what is left.
A nice little guard hut
Some lovely bricks and a blight on the landscape
What was left standing had some nice treasure inside
What looks like possibly part of a radar system?
There was part of a recreational area, with ornate flower pots and a fountain,outside what must have been a theatre of sorts
Further along an outdoor pool for all them pesky riskiest to relax around
Making my way put a strange little hut, complete with long johns!
So that’s it that’s all time to get back to the car and move on thank you Altes Lager
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Is this a rural location, it looks to be. How long have them fags been there?.., I looked but couldn't determine that Golden American are still about.
Well yes it’s pretty rural the town of juterbog it is like some Cheshire village from what I saw of it.
I guess the fags are pretty old, sold in packs of 25, which was unheard of in the U.K.
I have distant memories back in my youth in the early 70’s of travelling on the ss nevasa on a school cruise and buying packs of ‘555’ cigarettes in packs of 25 off members of the crew. Not a British thing at all.
Never saw those packs of 25, and I stopped smoking when I was 15. They were always 10's and 20's in England. Love the fact that it's just stood there... waiting for that shot.
Lol I did stand it on end !
Edit: Thank you for adding the sources.
Oh dear I forgot to put the fucking indents
Hi,
I am not sure what you mean. Our comment is not about post styling but plagiarism.
The source to the original author was evidently not given.
Okay, so he slipped up, but this is a 95%+ original post. We need to encourage and support good content creators, not scare them away. I am sure there is blatant copying going on, but please be more supportive of people who are trying to add value to Hive. It's not like we can afford to lose them.
@slobberchops is doing his best to nurture this community. Why not let him deal with it?
You are right. Thank you for the feedback.
We have not checked deeper the user's history of posting and onboarding.
The report was processed too quickly after checking the validity of sources provided by the reporter.
I have edited the comment and upvoted the post to encourage the user to stay. I will also add @grindle to curation.
Cheers. I've done enough dealing with abuse to know it can be a thankless task. We need to all work together to improve the Hive experience.
Just have to be careful to give attribution to keep these guys off your back. They are trying to keep Hive 'clean', but their boilerplate responses can seem threatening to those who just slipped up. I think your posts are great and will continue to support you.
Big thanks to you @steevc and @slobberchops
No problem. Hive is the wild west and some vigilantes are a bit gun-happy. Can't take it too personally. Just keep having fun.
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BEER.I have worked hard to get @grindle on HIVE, and this will just drive him off. He sent me a DM this morning, explaining that he's in touch with these historical sites and has already asked for permission to use their material to bolster his own work (which is authentic and yes, he was given permission).
He's also taking about leaving HIVE now and powering down. I know you guys are out there to rid the real plagiarists but we can ill afford to lose decent writers like @grindle. If it's just the indents and attributions that is needed then I have that in hand.
Besides, those and the one old photograph, the rest of it is his own work.
Hello,
I am not sure why he decides to do so. He has never been blacklisted nor downvoted.
The post was reported by the community for minor plagiarism so he received the comment.
There is not much text in the post but it was plagiarised from 2 sites (I am sure that both you and @grindle have checked the sources provided by us and have seen it what is there).
We only informed the user about the plagiarised text. Nothing more.
From Source 1:
From Sourcce 2:
If, like you said, he has contacted the authors of these articles to use their writing, could he please ask the authors to mention on their website or Twitter that he was given permission to copy their writing? @grindle ?
The author of the first half of the text that is copied is:
https://twitter.com/urbexnl
The author of the second half of the text that is copied is:
https://twitter.com/abandonedberlin
Alternatively, they can just add word "Hive" in these 2 articles (under the source above that you have read) to confirm. It can be removed after we see it.
I left a response on Discord, the text and image have now both been sourced. I understand where you are coming from, it's the tone that comes across (it's too strong).
I have seen your reply. Thanks yo for the feedback. I have upvote the post to encourage the user and will add the account to curation.
Thank you, appreciate that.
@slobberchops I can see that the user has just edited the post and added the sources for copied text. That's great. It means that our informative comment worked.
I will edit the plagiarism comment.
He has never been blacklisted nor downvoted so there is no reason for the user to leave.
It seems that a few more years, and the jungle will hide all these traces finally.