RE: Hardfork 21 Tomorrow
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So.. do I win by not making content and just upvoting whichever post is at the top of trending each day? Let's find out! lol ;)
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So.. do I win by not making content and just upvoting whichever post is at the top of trending each day? Let's find out! lol ;)
That's the EIP incentive :) Just be aware that flags will be flying too on the trending page lol. So you may still end up with nothing.
So... I just need to vote on whoever has the most flagging power and who also pays the most for bots on their own post? Basically, I need to support whoever the biggest jerk is. Got it. ;)
You know who they are 😉
You don't win by upvoting whatever is already at the top of trending. In fact you'll probably get very little for that because curation rewards come from votes after yours.
If a post is doing well, or even at the top of trending and I vote on it, but I get in early and lots of other people also do the same, then I'd get paid out. I was really, though, more thinking of being able to look at who is at the top of trending - perhaps due to their high stake and self voting, or through use of bidbots and then autovote their next posts after 5 minutes.
If you are able to get in early, sure. But it won't be at the top of trending at that point or even near it.
No doubt there will be others competing to do the same thing. That's not going to be easy money.
I meant 'get in early' before others compete for the same curation.. But yes, I understand that it's not optimal to vote for a post that's already at the top.
It seems like there is very likely to be a vote sniping contest to see who can do the autovoting at the optimal time. We shall see.
Absolutely. That is by design.
I'm talking about sniping of voting on posts just because you know they spend a lot on bidbots or are whales and self upvote.
Yes that is by design.
So what is the selling point and usefulness of people competing for significant rewards as a result of being able to place a vote the earliest, but closest to 5 minutes for posts that defy proof of brain by using bid bots etc?
You snipe at 5 minutes. Now someone else snipes at 4:57. They only give up 1% of rewards but gain far more than that by being ahead of you. You now decide it is worth it to snipe at 4:54. Repeat. As a result, much of the curation rewards on useless curation is then returned to the pool to be used elsewhere.
This already happens BTW. Many votes on known-payout posts are made around 5-8 minutes I believe (I haven't checked the exact numbers recently) even though the penalty timer currently runs to 15m, returning curation to the pool. That part won't change much with HF21, although the higher absolute curation rewards may drive a bit more activity.
I understand that situation, yes - though I don't have any real world data on it. I was just thinking that a significant increase in the amount of curation rewards available would lead to a variety of attempts to focus on gaming this aspect of the system. Hopefully people find it pointless and do real curation instead - we shall see!
People will go where the money is sure. Some will focus on gaming this aspect but that offers a benefit to everyone else when the rewards are returned to the pool. Early votes on known-payout content reduces the effective curation rewards there from the nominal 50% and makes looking for lesser-known high-potential content (where you can still get the full 50% or close) more attractive to others. Specialization is inevitable.
Probably.
Anyway, I never cared when to vote on a post and I still won't care. :)
It's easy to make a list of the usual trenders and upvote them before the others do.
We already covered this in the sibling reply thread. Yes it is easy to do which means many people will be doing it (in fact already are today, but with the higher starting rewards competition will likely intensify), driving the votes earlier and earlier and returning more and more of the curation rewards back to the pool.