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(Last Twitter post for this month I promise)

Now I am aware of my influence here and that a lot of my starting following on Twitter are Steemians, but honestly all it seems you need is being active. The more I've been fiddling with the analytics page the more I realize how addictive that itself can get and I really can't wait for Steemit to implement some of their own in the very near future. You post a Tweet or reply to a tweet and a couple hours later quickly go to check how those are doing. The impression stats are nice because they can grow up to some big numbers and it's just whoever viewed it on their machine, then there's engagement which I'm assuming is for likes+comments.

Anyway this is something that's really going to blow up on Steem and I can easy see some people delegate some stake to projects that would focus on rewarding users that are good at increasing those stats mentioned above. I realize the saying "if there's money to be made people will attempt to game it", but hey, right now we are at the phase where people aren't even attempting to game it because they can't be bothered with it, lol. So just adding some extra incenvites onto attempting to raise those numbers will do Steem good in general while some may opt out if they want a more "natural" growth though I don't see many not wanting to receive some extra rewards for what they are already doing.

Anyway so this is my screenshot from 9 days ago, I admit I haven't been tweeting much for a week (was going to post about what happened but will be in another post as it's a lot) but just wanted to show you the "progress" of a couple days where I was trying a bit more than usual to raise my analytics:

As you can see it pumped almost similarly to the price of Steem. :D

So what I noticed is basically that it doesn't really matter much what you say as long as it drives engagement and gets a lot of impressions. As someone who used to be very good on Reddit knowing when to place comments and where and maybe them not being completely shit I think this is something I could see myself focusing on for a bit and trying to raise my follower base there while all along sharing and growing with my fellow Steemians.

The different stats of engagement, link clicks, etc looked decent there right up until the break too:

The #posh initiatives are still in full going although we are shifting most of our curation focus and combinations onto our new community (link in case you haven't heard of it: https://beta.steemit.com/trending/hive-174578)
we are focusing curation there a lot more from now on and adding some new incentives such as engagement which I also need to get back up to date with it's activity since it got a bit delayed because of (something that happened that I yet have to post about), but I might as well make a post about it at the same time once I've taken care of what I've missed so far.

Anyway, how has your twitter activity been lately? Any tips other than just being really active and early on with some witty replies on high follower tweets? :p I think I need to follow a few more crypto people.



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can't wait for Steemit to implement some of their own in the very near future.

same!

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Not as many as you but I agree it get's addicitve to look at the analytics.

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Almost 100 followers now, many of them STEEM peeps, though not all. My account is old but haven't used it much until recently.

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Imagine the addiction to steem we'd have with these analytics, people will forget about Discord real fast.

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Yes, but who can do it? Would love analytics to be here.

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Let's just tag @jarvie and @asgarth at random places over and over until they shift their development focus. :p

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Sad I only got one tag. hahaha
K so what do you guys want more specifically?

We haven't touched general account analytics since steempeak.com started as we've been busy doing a bunch of other things... we have always known we'd come back to it because there are so many more things we can do.

However if we had a few people providing solid feedback as to what analytics would be addictive to people that would be nice. Specially if those people were understanding of what features would provide the most return for the least amount of development time.

I would also say that most analytics on steem have focused on MONEY analytics which isn't what most other sites do... they focus on engagement analytics ... which we both agree are likely more interesting AND bring more people to steem because then people are more motivated to actually share their content even to people who have no vote or account.

And knowing that analytics is likely gonna have to be a gradual thing... where we add some perhaps each development cycle. But having a game plan would be nice.


On another note it's my personal opinion that Steem users aren't really experienced at engagement and pushing eyeballs to their stuff... we see very little amount of people linking their posts to the outside world. But to be fair this is their first rodeo for most of these people and they've been used to places like reddit, twitter, youtube that have huge user bases... but they don't realize that there are people posting content from twitter, youtube and the likes all over the internet like on the news. Twitter gets shared on reddit... there are whole youtube videos or even channels that focus on curating and sharing content from reddit. etc

As i've checked out steempeak analytics I've seen a few posts get tens of thousands of views and yet get very little rewards.

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As i've checked out steempeak analytics I've seen a few posts get tens of thousands of views and yet get very little rewards.

Indeed, this is what would be nice with public analytics to have as well, which I think would also be nice if you guys could implement instead of the way Twitter only shows it for personal use and same thing with Reddit subreddit traffic only shows it to moderators. Keep it all public and transparent for anyone to see which would align with the Steem spirit in general, but yeah.

I think the most important first steps would be a viewcounter, if you guys also build the backbone to differentiate between accounts and bring weekly/monthly viewcounter/"impression" charts one can check up specifically somewhere then it would also pave the way for something like adding Brave to steempeak for each content creator (I don't know how this last part would work exactly but having the option open would be a + and if you guys want to share some BAT revenue with the content creators that have generated most of the traffic would be appreciated both ways and at the same time lead to even more traffic when they're aware of what sharing their steempeak links outside of the steem ecosystem can entail, not to mention specific accounts/stake that give extra curation incentive before posts pay out depending on the views they generated.

So yeah, any sort of viewcounter would be very much appreciated at first, doesn't even matter much to begin with if it's easily gamed (which I think was the reason Steemit removed theirs last time to "fix it" and it remained gone.

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Like this post that was written a month ago... but in the last few days has gotten thousands of views. Not sure why. haha

https://steempeak.com/2019starwars9/@exisbagus1/repelis-ver-star-wars-episodio-9-star-wars-episodio-ix-el-ascenso-de-skywalker-2019-pelicula-completa-en-espanol-audio-latino

Actually that one above has 10k views this month!!

Or this one that has a lot of recent views

https://steempeak.com/bad/@manukmanyar01/assistir-bad-boys-para-sempre-filme-4kportugese-or-or-dublado-online-completo

Or this one written many months ago but getting lots of views
https://steempeak.com/all/@taromihaling/assistir-filme-one-piece-stampede-2019-online-legendado

And if you look at the last month it's probably the most viewed post on all of steempeak. with 13473 unique views
All posts that are getting a ton of traction outside of steem but funny enough have NO REWARDS


This one has 2k views this month and seems to be a real article... but may just be a copy paste and not original.

https://steempeak.com/all/@aileenpattersonk/100-working-fifa-mobile-mod-apk-ipa-hack-2020-unlimited-coins-and-points-android-ios


Here's probably the most viewed post this month by an actual steem focused user

https://steempeak.com/contest/@culgin/a-heist-with-markiplier-guide-to-all-endings-hidden-codes-and-a-contest

my guess is he actually posted it or it got shared outside of steem.

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Now you got me thinking... I'm gonna ask @asgarth if it's possible to make a feed where we show the most viewed posts in the last 30 days. We can slip it into the explore page as a bit of a curiosity. At least this gets us thinking about analytics and testing some things out. Something simple to begin with... though translating stuff from analytics where there isn't an easy API i guess that's not particularly simple to begin with... but at least trying to figure out how to do it on a simple case will be a good start.

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The main question is: how do you track the number of views? What is considered a view? And where do we store this information?

Also some posts will have a large number of views, but not sure everyone who viewed the post liked it. So number of votes will work better in my opinion if we track the number of real votes.

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I'm actually really interested in promoting and sharing what posts get views. Interactions like actual LIKES is very interesting as well. But views should be rewarded with some simple sort of UI thing. Because that shows the people who are creating content interesting to people even outside of steem.
A like/thumbsup system would only track just steem users... also a good thing but very different.

It's fascinating to see how some people will get thousands of views on a post when most "popular" steem writers get dozens of views maybe like 100 views of their steempeak page. (obviously you have to multiply that by steemit/busy/partiko views) but some of these people who publish on reddit or twitter will KILL a normal steemian with actual views.

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I think it would be amazing to have an impressions and views counter. Curation initiatives could then use those stats to curate.
Another thing a like/dislike system without registration, just anyone can use that. I know some sites use those.
I'm aware those stats would probably be really easy to manipulate, but if all people know that it shouldn't really be a problem imo.

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Haha i don't think we should show views just yet... because most people will be pretty disapointed. haha
Like really really disapointed when they realize some crap post got 10k views and yours got like 20 views and you spent tons of time on it.... the difference is that other person promoted it and shared it outside of steem and the only thing you did was write and did ZERO promotion. Maybe it's a bit of a shock to the system that will motivate them... but we first need to establish a culture of getting people to act like actual content promoters before we show them how bad they are at it.

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I didn't even know we can do that O.o
Me and twitter = the blind with sun glasses

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I learned that recently myself, think I've had that account since 2010 or something.

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Good to hear it’s helping — I continue to post, fairly regularly, on Twitter using Posh initiative (even tagging yiu) but I still don’t think you guys are seeing my posts?

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Not doing as well as you. Just hanging in there and participating in the #posh initiative. Mine is a satirical account. Guess I need to start chasing Twitter Whales...

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I keep lists on Twitter, and now have almost 200 "Crypto-Influencers" on this list:

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1074146350034432001

Right now we are very incestuous on Twitter. Most STEEMers have only other STEEMers as connections. Therefore, no one else sees the tweets.

A good strategy is to follow 1-2 crypto tweeps each day and get them on a list. RT from the list a few times a week. RT with a comment for better results. Try to engage those other crypto people, and over time they will be following you.

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