Promoting Content on Steem

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We do not see things the way they are; we see things the way we are.

People who buy paid votes, weather intentionally to try and earn ROI or not, don’t give a damn about the long-term health of Steem.

To be fair, those who STILL use bid bots have very little SP from my research, easy to light the house on fire and walk out when u have no skin in the game. or these people still buying paid votes are still ignorant to the new changes to Steem.

User is always right; we must fix the parameters. We don’t want Steem users feeling bad or being embarrassed for wanting to promote content. We should embrace it and make it both as easy to do as possible, but, and just as important, make sure it benefits all Steem hodlers.

I am a strong believer in people’s rights to advertise.
Advertising gives someone a way to be heard, which is fundamental in today’s internet.
Can become a huge demand for liquid Steem when things start picking up.

We do need a clearer way for people to promote content, the promotion tab is hardly used. We need to blend the promoted tab with trending in a nonintrusive way, so everyone can easily promote post by burning Steem.

Right now, if you want to promote without getting hit by downvotes, you need to burn author rewards. Not intuitive

People who overly promote, or if trending is overrun with ads (good issue to have, means there is actual $ demand for visibly on trending) - then we can of course use downvotes, or upvote content we like above the paid ad posts.

Chase perfection you’ll never catch it. Steem is ready for promotion IMO, despite the apparent flaws.


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Thank you Dan!, we must concentrate on creating content rich enough to fetch us with votes rather than buying. It is true that with the #Newsteem we give value to the real content creators than those who were buying. I really love your video and everything you said here!

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I actually did bought vote sometimes back but this was because I never even understood what the repercussions might be on the system and for Steem then actually after newsteem @ocd cleared me on it and just immediately after considering all my investment and how I'd love this place to sucessed big time.
Truth is we might be slipping it, not really knowing the measures that'll finally ignite steem but at all times we're reckoning with the ones that won't and well with steem and it's flaws I guess the right people with the right attitude and the right advertisement, will obviously kickstart steem. Amazing watch it was Dan

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... we do not see things the way they are,
we see things the way we are.

Reminds me of an old British painting depicting Egyptian slaves building the pyramids. The pyramids were actually built by farmers and the like during the off-season.

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I can see your point and understand the bid voting should no longer be an option. The algorithm improvements will make a big difference in discouraging this behavior.
What is your opinion about "promoting" on specific terminal like ESteem and Partiko. Not buying votes, just promoting content buttons on those portals?

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I like see sponsored content on esteem. I think the best way is to burn steem for promotion. Creates bullish demand for steem while reducing the supply, an absolute home run of a combo.

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There are Adusers and Abusers :)

When I first came to steem I tested the promoted tab, and it didn't work then either, and that was well before bidbots. It has to be integrated with the icon into trending, or perhaps if Steem does very well, into various categories of Trending that are suitable for the content, rather than a catchall Trending page.

At the moment, I think one of the issues are the votetrading that seems to push a few users into Trending, and their alts. But, that is another step in the EIP.

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There are some "famous" vote traders that I really don't need to name. I believe the more you're on trending the more people will scrutinize your work, it's only natural.

I just want to make sure that there is a clear line between people farming rewards with low effort content, vs people who upvote each other's high effort content. I don't want people to feel the need to walk on eggshells, make the post and let the chips fall where they may.

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make the post and let the chips fall where they may

I take this approach as I feel comfortable enough with what I produce under my own scrutiny. If people vote or downvote, that is on them.

I am happy for people to promote, but they shouldn't profit directly, they should profit fromm selling their product to the market they promoted to.

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Have a safe trip man and make sure you have also fun, not just business. I've read pennsif's post the other day where you volunteered to travel all over US and talk about Steem and I think it is awesome.

I wish you could come to Greece-Athens, where a massive event starts today and talk... "DECENTRALIZED 2019"

I hope I can make it and be there tomorrow since the price for all 3 days was kinda spicy...something like 450 Euro.

Anyway, some day maybe :)

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Thanks! I would love to visit Athens! Combine it with a big crypto event and I’m there

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Damn...I should have let you know about this event earlier...I'll do some digging :)

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You make some good points in this post... I have disabled my voting bot and will be posting on Steem again as a content creator and adding value to this community like I always have... I have youtube videos about steem with hundreds of thousands of views and an online teaching business with 500,000 students now... and a bestselling steem course. I have always been in favor of helping this community (I have invested more than 99.9% of most users and have kept my stake for 2+ years now...). I ask you to please stop downvoting my posts on my @joeparys account (since it is not spam anymore) and allow me to continue to draw more people into our community. I upvoted this comment to get your attention and will not be upvoting my own comments very much in future.

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Sure, there is nothing personal with my DVs. I will also let OCDB know.

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Appreciate it -- I do not take the downvotes personally, I was just assuming I was getting them from OCDB and yourself bc they did not know my account is no longer a voting bot. I am also getting them from spaminator (not sure if that is you or another type of account). Excited for new steem and thank you for your support.

Sincerely,
Joe Parys

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That is very kind of you, thank you very much.

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To summarize:

  • cut of the promoted tab
  • integrated promoted with trending
  • let promoted content compete with organic votes
  • burn STEEM to promote
  • add small sign that the content is promoted (the box on the tribes web is to much)
  • allow everyone to promote

Promoting content is the most natural way to burn STEEM and it has been broken for so long its crazy.
Promoting on tribes is a bit better but also not ideal, cuz with small amount the promoted post is on the top. It should compete with the organically voted post (with the note promoted).

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Thanks a lot for saying what I wanted to say. Especially intergrating promoted with trading. I'm ready to burn upto 100 steem just to be in trending. It's so hard to build a community without promoting it. I'm building it for a year and 4 month and the growth is really low. I wasn't using upvote bots before hf21 because I was saving every single earned steem to solve problems in life. I'm not using them now because the downvotes. But if I'll be sure that I will not get big dowvotes and be in the trending for a while just by burning some steem, I'll be happy to do that. Because I've seen even those who decline payout, flagged as well.

I hope @steemitblog will do something about that. Promoting is not a crime.

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I have been a part of this blockchain since June 2017 and yes, I do agree that recently there has been a HUGE shift - it is not perfect... in fact far from, but it was a very positive shift in my opinion. However, having said that - the "making it simple" is a bridge we have not yet built and it is a MASSIVE problem. I hopped on to a show on Saturday past which was hosted by @aggroed and @shadowspub. I only joined shortly after the first hour but there was some seriously VALID and interesting discussion which took place with this specific facet of things in mind - ie. People that don't have a clue about crypto and/or how it works. Here is a link to the recording, should you have a gap to give it a listen...

https://steemit.com/steem/@steemalliance/marketing-ramble-recording

When I joined this network, I did not understand much about anything and in fact it is probably arguable that I still don't lol - I did not know how bid bots would negatively affect Steem as a whole and yes - I used them. I will be brave enough to even admit that when I stepped into this space, I looked toward the people at the top and sadly... at the time - one of those was Jerry Banfield. I bought into what he sold for a short time, until I started to find my feet around here and realised that I was simply being taken advantage of and that he was a total scam artist! - but my point being... yes I think ignorance and lack of knowledge and insight plays a HUGE part in the activity to which you are referring - regarding bid bots etc. But the reality is, it does not end there! Noobs who step into this sphere are mostly overwhelmed and understandably so. I know I was.

I had a meeting last night with the old manager of my business - the man who I gave it all to. He took over everything I worked for. He came to meet with me because he is struggling to make his monthly obligation to me for the machinery. I worked with this amazing individual for 11 years and he was the best employee I ever had... but now he is on his own and as I had mentioned to my dad earlier on in the day... not everybody is built such that they can "carry" and self-motivate themselves.I was always there to motivate and/guide him (them) from point A to point Z - and I had to remind him again yesterday, that whilst we may not work together day to day anymore... I am still there for him. Interestingly enough his downfall has been the precise opposite of what you mentioned regarding advertising... he just has not been doing it. Now, the reason for that I would assume is related to a combination of confidence and disregard. What many consider second nature is often completely FOREIGN to others and we need to remember this on this network! Advertising in ANY business is pivotal and I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said in this scope of things. This, was one of the reasons I used bidbots when I joined this space and knew a whole lot less. This is to be expected from newcomers.

Advertising has a broad sphere and no, it is not just businesses! It is EVERYONE "doing it for themselves" these days because remote earning is the way the world is leaning. We have bloggers, vloggers, photographers, life coaches, artists of all kinds, psychologists and a multitude of other professions which are now all operating... ON THEIR OWN - ONLINE... Those who cannot see the importance for the advertising aspect of that are simply delusional! I had a business, but now I don't - I blog full time and I run the communities I head on Steem... so what, I am supposed to live on - fresh air? No! As much as I love fresh air lol - it does not feed my family.

I LOVE your thoughts regarding the promoted tab, but the thing is... I think it has (over time) developed a negative stigma. Perhaps I am wrong, but I don' think I am. "Promotion" of ANY kind is something which is falling under common and unnecessary scrutiny around here lately and that is sad.

My 10c on "alternate promotion" - I would like to raise the topic of the "resteem". I have said this before and I will say it again now - many do not have the funds to "promote" their content - and we all know how fast the Steem feed moves... in fact I would say the speed of our blockchain feed would give Twitter a good run for it's money.... I am derailing as usual lol - my point being... when someone resteems a post I think it should not only appear in the resteemers feed - but again in the live feed too. This in itself would somewhat "afford" extra promotion to those that warrant it - but without the cost - which they could not afford in the first place.

The downvotes don't hurt, they are just equilibrium.

There are so many downvote WARS going on at the moment which 80% of users have no involvement in - but are made to be a part of. This hardly seems fair and most definitely not JUST! There are oblivious content creators posts which are getting shoved from pillar to post with upvotes and downvotes from this whale and that bot - and it is a level of politics and immaturity which is not only confusing to many users, but is also a seriously negative reflection of the Steem network itself.

@theycallmedan - NOTHING in life is perfect... but you are a VERY healthy part of this network and I am grateful we have individuals like yourself because you say it like it is, you are not scared to to be real and you actively change things for the positive!

I will shut up now... LOL

I should have made a post out of this comment hahahaha!!!!

(Apologies in advance for spelling and grammatical errors - the message is more important)

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why we get down vote I mean.? if someone is uploading a video and putting effort in it Don't you think it's not fair with content creators?Big whales can easily kill the new creators as the have more SP as compare to new ones and they can manipulate the market as well.

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@theycallmedan, In my opinion nowadays things went Judgemental but we have to understand one thing and that is we have to find the beauty in Diversification.

When we talk about Culture Change on Steem Blockchain then definitely we are talking about the real change and sometimes people go against the Wind and they see rough times. It's important to adopt the change when it's good, if not then it's worth a fight.

In my opinion when Manual Curation exists which is talk of the ages then why we need the Old Ways when new change is doing what is good for all.

Have a wonderful time ahead and stay blessed.

Posted using Partiko Android

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I really like what eSteem is doing with their promotions mechanism where you can promote and the post is branded as promoted and slipped into your feed/promotions/hot

What I think would be great is a system based on impressions since you want attention you want to buy views right? What would be great is a dynamic auction where you burn say 1 SBD worth for 1000 views or something like that and the more people buying views the more expensive it becomes to get your 1000 views.

Your views might result in added upvotes/followers/support but it would never be about the value of the post but more the number of views you want to purchase. Whereas naturally upvoted content has a more chance of getting more views thus still keeping the value of organic curation.

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just thought about it while listening, not sure if it is even possible but it would be an interesting way of integrating promoted posts in trending. Burning SBD. They are valued 1$ so to get on the trending page on a place where "50$" organic post is, burn 50 SBD.

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just looked it is not just vests that are counted for place on trending so it is a stupid idea :)

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I gave you upvote 💯 and resteem your posting

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well don't know where steemit is heading towards but seeing almost no posts on the feed the people seem to be leaving and that's very sad

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People who buy paid votes, weather intentionally to try and earn ROI or not, don’t give a damn about the long-term health of Steem.

Indeed, I must agree with you. We must give #newsteem a chance to prove itself. Having a decentralized community will self-correct all the mistakes we have done. Steem is better than US dollar that will collapse one day, very soon in my opinion. Having a Steem Power is like having a freedom of speech. Great post always @theycallmedan

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[Eng // Esp]
Thank you!!
Today I am serving a month in the community and I am just understanding some things. Partly thanks to publications like this and the comments on it.
It seems to me that it is very difficult to get publications like this when you just enter the network. What's more, I don't know if it had come if it wasn't because we have been meeting with other users with more experience who have emphasized the production of quality content and not just in the search for monetary rewards. And as these users allow you to connect with other users with similar views.
I think the story would be very different if my entry to the network had been unaccompanied. It is possible that I had been locked in a circle of junk content and therefore my publications reproduced that kind of content.
So I wonder how many people will be trapped in junk content without knowing it? How to promote content ethically? What, if any, are the ethical ways to promote your content when you are starting on this network?


Gracias!!
Hoy estoy cumpliendo un mes en la comunidad y recién estoy comprendiendo algunas cosas. En parte gracias a publicaciones como esta y a los comentarios en la misma.
Me parece que es muy difícil llegar publicaciones como esta cuando recién ingresas a la red. Es más no se si hubiera llegado si no es porque venimos reuniéndonos con otros usuarios con más experiencia que han hecho énfasis sobre la producción de contenido de calidad y no solo en la búsqueda de recompensas monetaria. Y como estos usuarios te permiten conectar con otros usuarios con puntos de vista similares.
Creo que la historia seria muy diferente si mi entrada a la red hubiese sido sin acompañamiento. Es posible que me hubiese quedado encerrado en un circulo de contenido basura y que por lo tanto mis publicaciones reprodujeran ese tipo de contenido.
Por lo que me pregunto ¿cuanta gente estará atrapada en contenido basura sin saberlo? ¿Como promover el contenido de manera ética? ¿Cuales son, si las hay, las maneras éticas de promover tu contenido cuando estas iniciando en esta red?

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My first year on steemit I put in a huge effort and wrote everything from how to use a saw to travel and much more but hardly got an upvote for all that work. These days I just post and hope for the best.

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In your opinion, how does 3 Speaks compare with other DeSoMi platforms? Take LBRY for example in a head to head comparison. Thanks

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In this episode, the host reflects on the journey of the Steem platform, acknowledging the challenges faced but also celebrating the progress made. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the platform and its users better in order to move forward effectively.

Prioritizing the User Experience

The host strongly believes that the "user is always right" when it comes to building a successful platform. He stresses the need to make the experience intuitive and easy for users, rather than forcing a particular philosophy or approach. By addressing the parameters and removing friction, users can be guided to the right behaviors organically.

The Issue with Paid Votes and Bid Bots

The host is adamantly against the use of paid votes that offer a return on investment (ROI), as he sees this as detrimental to organic curation and damaging to the long-term health of Steem. He believes many users are still unaware of the recent parameter changes that have made this practice less desirable.

Integrating Promotion with Trending

The host suggests blending the Promoted tab with the Trending page in a non-intrusive way, allowing users to easily boost their content by burning Steem. This would make the promotion process more intuitive and accessible, while also ensuring transparency by clearly indicating promoted content.

Addressing Over-Rewarded Content

The host acknowledges the difficulty in determining what constitutes "over-rewarded" content, as quality is subjective. He is hesitant to downvote content solely based on the rewards it has received, as long as the content itself is of reasonable quality. His focus remains on addressing more egregious forms of abuse, such as plagiarism and spam.

Promoting Steem to a Wider Audience

The host is eager to promote Steem at events and conferences, believing the platform is ready for wider adoption. He sees the current climate of censorship on other platforms as an opportunity to showcase Steem's decentralized and censorship-resistant nature to a broader audience.

Overall, the host emphasizes the need for a more user-centric approach to promoting content on Steem, with a focus on improving the parameters and making the platform more intuitive and accessible for both creators and curators.


Notice: This is an AI-generated summary based on a transcript of the video. The summarization of the videos in this channel was requested/approved by the channel owner.

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