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RE: Steem is in trouble. Here's how to help.

in #steem8 months ago

But if you call this "hostile takeover" by justinsun, what was HF22.2?
HF22.2 was against private property, both was crap decisions but the "witnesses" started that crap.

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HF22.2 was controversial and I wrote posts about what I thought about it. There were two possible routes:

  • Justin Sun was planning to take-over Steem anyway and the witnesses therefore were right to temporarily (!) limit some of the actions he could take until we could talk to him. In that case current actions taken by him prove they were right and the measures should maybe even have been more decisive.
  • Justin Sun is innocent, was really planning to do 'everything good' we wanted, and never planned to take over Steem in order to grow 'his' Tron. In that case, the decision of the witnesses is the sole reason the current SF22.5 is happening as he felt he had to protect himself.

There's a lot of evidence suggesting he was planning something 'hostile' all along. Amongst others: 1) screenshots with announcements that Steem would be made worthless by adding a Steem token on Tron and adding that one to the exchanges instead of our own $STEEM, all these announcements have been removed from the twitter and medium pages, but the screenshots still exist, 2) him ignoring the pressing questions that he said he would give 'the highest priority' during the AMA, these were questions that would have been able to reassure us, but he chose to purposely ignore them, 3) him ignoring many requests to talk to him in calls - witnesses did have ideas on how we could keep the status quo without doing a soft fork, but he chose to ignore these invitations, 4) his recent voting in of Tron Super Representatives, showing he is willing to use his money to get a blockchain to do what he wants, instead of trusting the consensus.

So, to answer your question:

But if you call this "hostile takeover" by justinsun, what was HF22.2?

HF22.2 was a protective, temporary (!) and reversible (!) action taken by democratically chosen (!) witnesses to keep the status quo on Steem and find out if Sun would use his stake as it was meant/promised in the past.

I hope I answered your question.

In that case current actions taken by him prove they were right and the measures should maybe even have been more decisive.

No they did not prove this, because its another context, you can not hit somebody and when he hit you back say that he hits back proves that he planned to hit me before i hit him so i would have better shoot him:D

Yeah your right, but basically he buy this stake, so in our dpos chain he could use his stake to vote and therefore generate this consensus.

In an dpos chain consensus is about buying stake, because the account with the highest stake has the highest influence.
This is something we have to accept and it perhaps is a weak spot, because having the biggest stake doesnt mean you are right.
But in steem consensus having the highest stake means you are right.

And i think he delted the twitter and medium announcements, because he changend his opinion on migrating to the tron blockchain.
The communication of him i read after that was like no we dont would like to tokenswap or bs like this.

hope you understand what i mean, english is not my mother language
regards

And i think he delted the twitter and medium announcements, because he changend his opinion on migrating to the tron blockchain.

That's one way of looking at it. Others see it differently.

I'm not saying I disagree with you - I see what you mean. I also see what others mean. It's a very tough discussion and we might never be able to find out everything that's been going on. We'll have some hard decisions to make nonetheless.

hope you understand what i mean, english is not my mother language

Mine neither, and I appreciate you taking the time to share your views <3