RE: Clash of Steem

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I'm thinking right now about this and even think how to could be implemented but let's see..
How about to stop the "downvote for free" and with this the "war" and implement a kind of null bot. If people want to boost their posts, even if some can consider shit, they bid Steem (like earlier) but for a null bot, and Steem is burned or goes back to the reward poll.

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A kind of Blockchain bid-bot with good SP (maybe permanent delegation), where Steem received goes to reward poll a curation to his own SP.

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Well would basically be like before the hardfork and before other frontends.

You can still promote your posts via steemit by burning steem. Problem was that nobody actually looked into the promoted tab and therefore this was really useless.
Also you can't force any of the frontends to actually rank these posts higher.

In my opinion steem right now is a much healthier place as opposed to before the hardforks.

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I think "nobody" really want to promote their post, people want to see good rewards.

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yeah but how would there be good rewards for your proposal?

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This is not a proposal, I even think if and how is possible to implement... This is an idea.
Good reward is (I know you gonna understand) the same photo in two different accounts post can generate 50 Steem to one and 0.05 to the other. This will never end because some have whale friends and some are just trying to be happy and enjoy the Blockchain.

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I get what you are saying, you want a fair system, where the same amount of value give the same amount of reward.

However I would say that the way it works is already pretty fair. If more people vote you you get higher rewards, but you also reached more people and brought more value :)

Of course one can argue that because of different amounts of power this isn't strictly the the case. As maybe you brought one hundred people joy who don't have a lot of power vs. bringing only one person joy who has massive amounts of sp and receive the same value or even less
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But on the other hand these whales got the "right" to be more influencal because they already brought more value into steem in the past.
At least thats the way I see it.
And I can't think of any better way to handle this for now :)

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A fair system can be an utopy because what is fair to me can not be to you and this is ok, I'm not utopic :)
I guess a... less unfair (which is different from fair)


I quickly pick an example of unfair (and look I don't know blocktrades guys and don't have nothing against them I maybe they deserve this rewards)
https://partiko.app/blocktrades/poloniex-being-sold-off-and-new-company-is-dropping-us-customers (yesterday) - $57,047

https://partiko.app/rusli17/bittrex-international-halts-service-in-venezuela-and-30-more-countries-bufyxq4n (20h ago) - $0,092

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The problem is that 90% of bidbot usage was not to boost their posts but to increase the reward from the rewardpool... especially since due to the ecosystem bidbots could even give a profit to buyers.

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I'm thinking about a new bid-bot system not the old bid-bots

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Yeah, but that doesn't work like that. The moment you remove downvotes, people will bidbot for profit, and there is not much we can do against that.

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My focus is not in remove downvotes, maybe remove free downvotes... maybe. But what I mean (and again, is not a long time think, it happens just right now) is let people bid in a "Blockchain bot", if bid (Steem) return to reward poll or burned, why not?

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We have that in "promoted" already and I believe they want to improve that in the future.

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Right :) but let's face, promote doesn't give you rewards..
Anyway... I just hope this "downvote war" don't become a Steem war.

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yeah but people didn't use bidbots for promotions, or only rarely did, the vast majority did it for rewards

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Non-ROI bidbots are cropping up. I'm waiting with popcorn to see if anyone actually uses them.

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