A discussion on Human Design - Article response to @rok-sivante
This is an article response to @rok-sivante 's article response to an email I wrote him questioning the veracity to the Human Design method of assessing human behaviour. Find his article here.
Thanks for going to this effort to make a post like this! It's certainly valuable to gain perspective of Human Design direct from your valued experiences.
I still have skepticism but that is not because of you or your experiences. It is obvious by your conviction, you have a steady reference point with which you can still relate to the greater society as a whole and that is entirely precious.
I respect that/this.
This cult I was in, also had/has a 7 year 'de-conditioning' process called 'process to life'.
Is it 7 years of trauma locked in for control of the human vessel? Or really 7 years of de-conditioning? There must be a relating to the humans' already present belief systems and structures or else it is felt in the body as a trauma which locks in a time-loop of experience whence that trauma must be released through honest reflection in a relaxed state. There are aspects of our conditioning in this society that hold integral ideals like truth, honesty and love - and these elements must be related to the new model and shown how they fit.
A model that completely discards society is not the answer therefore. That style of model was what my previous affiliation dangerously hinted at.
To attempt to completely replace your conditioning without any acknowledgement of the good and beauty in the past (no matter how dark) is to potentially imprint a layer of trauma via self-help.
We cannot entirely throw out our past, we cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. It is one thing to call abusive figures in our life abusive but that's just it, we become victim of our own victimsy by denying the good in the bad.
This incessant desire to 'start again' has been a major cause of disaster in my life. I would deem something as 'all bad' and in that discard any knowledge I had of the good that came along with it.
Understanding that life is hinged on the principle of polarity unconditionally is a sobering realisation and a hard truth to really accept as part of the self for the polarity addicted individual.
Here is something I wrote recently that helped me clear a point:
Identity is a pile of scartissue
caked on an old wound
that was previously opened
re-opened and opened again
stab after stab
gash after gash
If we ever come to the transcendent point of self acceptance
and self love
after all this
loving this peculiar pile of disorganized, rehealed skin cells
We do not then suddenly call our oppressors ordained
or their acts of harm
acts of righteousness
For to do so
Is an act of narcissism
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In regards to the 'truth' of Human Design, what is on the surface must be tested by the individual or it is of no value, no matter how much inherent truth it may actually have.
The individual's approach to the truth or the 'true map' (if there is one) is equally important as the veracity of the truth the individual approaches. The individual's sincerity to any path decides the success of that path or not.
If HD is a map that has served you and assisted you in relating to this world and seeing the 'greater picture' without falling into the trap of auto-elitism - I am grateful for you having shared it.
Thank you, you have a generous soul to share as such!
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re: 7 years... I've heard before it takes 7 years for every single cell in the body to regenerate. Thus, perhaps that is there many different schools of thoughts or practices get that number from, whether consciously or not.
Oh damn, yeah, that's a red flag alright.
It's interesting how there are commonalities of that same flavor of programming in all sorts of different countercultural movements and even politics, to a degree. i.e. the anarchists rebelling against the system as a whole, or political extremists that take such a hard stance against the existing system - still somewhat playing within it, yet condemning societal structures as they are in reality. And then, the different hippie communes and such.
As crazy an experience that must have been for you, I bet there's a helluva lot of insight and wisdom that came out of it!
Absolutely.
I feel that is one common thing I encountered alot in self-help - focusing on 'replacing limiting beliefs with empowering ones,' as well as a toxic-positivity in much new-age stuff that places too much emphasis on "rewiring" oneself and/or looking forward without really slowing down to take inventory of the wisdom in past negative experiences and properly integrate it. Without that step, the trauma in the body really doesn't get processed, merely shoved under the rug.
This is a common, perhaps somewhat unfortunate, characteristic of human psychology - especially when it comes to trauma. We end up running out of memory space, and the traumas - even the small ones, trauma just in the sense of more stimulation/information at a given time then our neurology is capable of processing properly - end up closing off access those larger neural networks, sort of self-containing themselves.
I wish I had the language to express it better. Cory has covered alot of those dynamics over the years in striking detail, though I haven't retained enough to explain it myself well. If interested, this recent video of his on the common problem of not having enough space to store memories goes into part of it - and how that 'desire to start again' is a subconscious attempt to create new neural networks to store more memory in. Pretty 'mindblowing' stuff.
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Interesting, the mention of "the polarity addicted individual..." which is surely the case for many. Yet even despite the polarity principle, there are higher levels of truth transcending the polarity as able to integrate and access the full spectrum between the polarities once "breaking the addiction." Another big ascension puzzle.
Exactly! 😇
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I'm glad we cross paths here.
Your material is definitely some of the most intellectually-stimulating I've encountered in a while, and always provides great points of reflection. 🙏
And I'm glad we can water each other's truths and find a medium oneness thereby.
The previous incarnation of the cult I was in was much more forceful, believing that it and only it had the truth, directly from the dimensions. This is what seeded that initial obsessed group. I was involved within this period from 2008 to 2010. I left independently and discovered my identity was completely blank. Then, living on the streets of Australia, no belief system and no master to guide my thoughts. It was a drive within that told me to rebel, that inclined me to push against the 'all of everything' (as it felt then) because I felt it was right for me. I had no solid reason or justification for it, I just knew intuitively I needed to get out. It suffocated the part of me that I later discovered desires sovereignty - Is a sovereign, as yet, unknown to the self.
The master of that cult died in 2013 and much of his extremism with him. Now what remains are possibly constructive teachings but in denial of the abusive past that seeded it. He guided the inter-dimensional portal with his projective energy (the girl, Sunette, exactly my age). She no longer publically 'channels' expressions of ineffable truth like Anu, Enki and Enlil. But is now engaged in a full 'self-help' program system called the Desteni 'I' Process.
I realised later that the individual whose post I commented on, the still member of the cult, is not an oppressor oppressing with the cult's beliefs but rather is also a victim of a twisted man with his anti-jesus brand of auto-elitism. It was her father and she defended him to the end - she even wrote quite an endearing post about her father when he died, 'My Dad, The Devil'. I was surprised she even engaged in dialogue with me as she did seeing how previous members have blocked me instantly at just an initial communication.
Bernard (the cult leader) said himself that if you went to the dimensions and discovered that the ascended masters intended to do absolutely nothing to change the situation of inequality on earth, having abdicated their responsibility, what would you do? His response was that he would come back as the biggest and baddest demon imaginable. He claimed to himself have traveled the dimensions and spoken to the ascended masters.
In a way, this demon, is what he has seeded as this movement. The more one fights against the belief system of Desteni, the more it re-enforces itself because you actuate the enemy within its structure. Just like the Feds did with WACO in 1993 - re-enforcing the Davidians belief in 'the end' and a 'collective enemy' by pitting an army against them.
This charismatic brash shaming demon of Bernard is locked into the minds of this group - as a distorted purifying action or purging action to take itself out on the world constantly. A proverbial little horn that sits at the top of the dragon's head and spouts blasphemies; which has a voice because its raw truth finds a footing in your soul and conscience, if you feel the slightest amount of guilt for existing as yourself. This shame is a hook by which to lodge into your existence and others like you, becomeing a collective shame demon; an all accumulating spiral of self-righteousness, hatred and anger. As long as you feel shame for existing and have not sorted this part of yourself, and through introspection discovered its true origins (thereby being able to put a lid on it), shame demons like Bernard will have a hold on you and will have an audience in the world. A left-hand path teacher if you will, a teacher that uses pain to punish those that believe they deserve punishment for no reason, directing their consciousness, because they fail to direct it themselves.
What a fascinating manifestation - exposing one of the many hells we as humans have made for ourselves... one of the many responses humans have had to reality by simply existing. (We do fun things on earth hey? Excuse the sarcasm.)
Through taking responsibility of ourselves through self-direction these demons have no footing in our souls. They are a unquenchable fire that force self-direction... or else. When we meddle with a desire for power we meddle with this side of the spectrum.
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We will see what societies pop up post-capitalism. This world will fall.. and in our lifetimes. What cultures have been seeded through present belief systems locked in the layers of the subconscious of the present mass.
We will see a 'Human Design' society form. We'll see old authoritarian regimes form and reform. We'll maybe even see a Desteni society pop up from a random group of land locked individuals in South Africa. We'll likely see Netflix programmed realities from deep within the group mind surface as well.
People running to and fro, pretending they're in control. Just like now.
It's an interesting concept to entertain that our strong thoughts, intentions and starting points now - will create and seed the societies of tomorrow.
The full spectrum of light and dark will be recreated post-compression.
A reset... another cycle of the ferris wheel of consciousness.
Thanks for sharing your introspection with me here, it's certainly a nice thing to find a mind that can reflect these points accurately to gain an invaluable reference point by which to know what is real.
I look forward to engaging in further discussion.
Spoken like a true undefined G/Identity Center! LOL. :-)
The place that I searched for meaning, had no more water in its well. I was empty and blank. It was not a negative thing, just strange.
Thanks for reading my rattle. I get a bit carried away with posts sometimes and end up writing an essay where I intended to just write a few lines.
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