Opportune Time for UBI?

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It's finally happened. After two years trying to figure out what I was doing with my life after leaving my business (and not starting a new one) things have finally come together.

Someone asked me recently what I do, and my spontaneous answer was:

I volunteer wherever I see that I can be of use in a way that I enjoy interacting.

That's it. That's what I'm doing with my life.

What People Want

I wonder if ultimately that's what everyone wants, so long as survival needs are taken care of.

We want to be a positive influence in the world, and we want to enjoy the actual process of doing so, not just the outcome.

The reason people don't usually answer the question that way is because they don't confidently get past survival needs. They live their entire lives feeling insecure, so they can't feel the underlying desire in them to simply be of use.

UBI

A lot of people claim that a Universal Basic Income (UBI) will just make people lazy. I think that at first it might. I think people have over-worked themselves and could use a vacation.

Even with the lockdowns, at least 75% of the people in my country who were working before are working still. They are either working from home or are classified as essential workers. Parents with school age children are busier than ever.

If governments want people to remain home so that disease doesn't have an opportunity to spread, then it makes sense that they should pay them to stay home. That way only essential workers would be out and about, and they would also be getting the same UBI on top of their salaries. That would make it beneficial to them to work if they feel they can safely do so.

I here Spain is thinking of doing exactly this. Other countries have done temporary UBI for lockdown, mostly hovering around $2,000/month. The US of course sent a one time $1,200 payment to individuals and otherwise only gave money to the corporations.

(My primary objective when lockdown ends will be finding a different country to live in.)

But back to the main point, I think that temporary UBI has different effects on a person than standardized UBI. When you know the UBI isn't going to end, it shifts your perspective.

It finally allows that first level of Maslov's pyramid of human needs to be satisfied, physical survival. Then we naturally begin to move up the pyramid and focus on other needs.

One such need is Belonging and another is Self-Actualization. I would put service to community, and having the community appreciate that service, into Belonging. But it can also be a part of Self-Actualization, what gives a person a sense that their life has meaning.

If all one can do in life is just try to stay alive, well when staying alive becomes too hard it can be easy to question what one is fighting for. People give up, and even if they don't jump off a bridge, their body breaks down and they succumb to illness they would have otherwise overcome.

Humans are unique mammals in that we need a sense of meaning to inspire us when times are tough. Honestly, think of all the rich/famous people who have overdosed on drugs, dying thoroughly unnecessary deaths at a young age. Clearly we need a sense of meaning even in the best of times.

What do you think?

Do you support the idea of a UBI?

Do you feel it should only be temporary?

Do you think it shouldn't happen ever, even under current circumstances?

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I love the concept of UBI. The ideals behind it make sense and are sound. Unfortunately, it also rings alarm bells for me, not because I think the people would become lazy, but because it would be implemented by rulers I don't trust not to take advantage of it for their own ends.

How long would it be before you are obligated to submit to whatever chipping or vaccinations they demand in order to continue receiving it? Our leaders aren't benevolent and they aren't concerned about our freedoms, only about what works best for them. And when you realise that many of the people in powerful positions aren't ashamed to declare that they think the world is overpopulated and that the people are of no more value to them than "cannon fodder," well that doesn't help settle those alarm bells.

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Damn, man, you took that to a dark place! LOL, yeah there are some definite dangers inherent in the idea of a govt supplied UBI. But how else are people going to survive once AI makes so many of us redundant? There has never been a human capacity to not do what technology allows us to do, just because it unemploys many people to do it. Only in the past, technology has created new jobs. So there is disruption, but eventually people are employed, just in new ways. AI is a different type of technical revolution. It makes people unnecessary for anything other than manual labor.

As for laziness, that's what I've discovered doesn't happen. I'm not lazy though retired, and I see lots of people now out of work and unable to even look for work who are also doing a lot of volunteering. The danger is for young adults.

I remember how hard I had to work to build up useful skills in my 20s. I wanted to help, but couldn't do anything that was actually helpful. I'd been trained to pass tests and write good essays, to digest information and even apply critical reasoning in formulating new solutions. But what I didn't have was life experience and the ability to apply my knowledge in a way that created better outcomes in any way.

It took the necessity of "earning my keep" to force me to stay in jobs that taught me the things I needed to learn to actually be of use. If I had had a UBI, despite my desire to help the world, I might have given up before I got to where I could actually help.

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Indeed, UBI seems to be the forgone conclusion to this path we are being driven down. In fact I'd say that manual labour is one of the main things to be replaced and then all that is needed is the engineers to fix and program the machines. Then with this drive towards AI, perhaps even they will be replaced.

I've never thought of it that way with regards younger people. Guess it would depend on the examples they have around them. Some might be happy subsisting on the basics, but would a desire to have more, when they see others working for more, drive them to learn and contribute. I know that would drive my eldest, assuming she couldn't weedle things out of others instead.

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The people who own the mint don't care about money (why would they?)
They care about obedience.
UBI, like all welfare, takes from everyone and gives back to the obedient.
If you're just looking at total paid in: total pulled out, you don't understand the game.

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