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steem-ua is supposed to be a ranking service less prone to being gamed than the baked in system on the platform. If it has morphed into a subscription service I think most people are unaware of that.

As for SBI, one of the main reasons I give SBI away at PYPT is that it provides what amounts to small ongoing votes to those receiving it rather than sending someone a single steem. I also like that people can't just arbitrarily raise their holdings without raising the holdings of others.

SBI votes on comments when the member hasn't posted. I have seen this happen with myself. If I go several days without putting a post up, I start getting SBI votes on comments. They stop the moment I post.

As for the blacklists. Have you talked to @josephsavage to find out if SBI uses them? I know I would never sending an SBI for someone on the blacklists.



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Steem-UA is a subscription service in the sense that you delegate to them in promise for votes.
The interesting part about it is how they have the ranking system work so it's not always the same amount of money you earn. It's based on how many followers you have and then the particular level of engagement on your post. It doesn't look like it's been updated for awhile in terms of how the model works. I see two issues with it personally. Althought it does look into engagement, I'm not sure of the degree of intelligence. Does it count people on blacklists commenting? Bot commenting? Is character length important? The other issue is considering the number of followers. Do people with reps below 30 count? What about accounts that haven't posted or commented for months? There are a lot of weird networks of followers that don't actually exist following people. In any case, Steem-UA doesn't increase their vote for you based on how much you give to them, it caps out at a very reasonable 250 delegation (7 votes a week) or 4 for 100 which is actually a good deal. I consider Steem-UA to be pretty harmless and doubt anyone is attacking them because they don't comment vote or give extra credit to people who vote for their posts.

I've just heard back from SBI (they commented here) apparently they do enable a blacklist, so I'm going to update that part. He also mentioned they are discussing making some changes and two of the issues I had with them are going to be considered which is great.

I also like that people can't just arbitrarily raise their holdings without raising the holdings of others.

This is fairly easy to get around. Lot's of people have alts or just trade.

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