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As usual, there is a great deal to think about here. I'm going to come back and have another read and comment. We're about to lose power and I have a few other places I must drop in. Will come back and have another read tomorrow...
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Thanks for the wuick comment and I look forward to your opinion. I had to read the part about losing power twice because at first I thought you were talking about voting or steem power and not electricity. Hope it's resolved soon.
Hahaha! I had the same reaction to bits of your post which is why I want to come back to it. We're having scheduled power outages in South Africa. I have 10 minutes till the lights go out :D
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I am back, and I'm glad I didn't comment straight away because I've come back to read the many other very insightful comments. I have, however, been ruminating on this over the weekend:
I have definitely seen a shift. Until recently, my expression has been that it seems to be a "kinder" place. The other thing is that although I'm not seeing much by curation rewards, I am seeing greater returns on my posts which are now longer and, this month, because of time constraints, limited to once a week. I've reverted to my old
before Steemblogging ways which means from WordPress via @steempress and with a broader readership in mind. I no longer post about Steemit, per se. If I do, I now use something like @partiko or @steempeak because it's something about which my larger readership doesn't give a damn.and there's another bunch - Camillesteemer and crew - whom we both met prior to HF21/22 - that are still downvoting posts. All my recent posts have been downvoted by this bunch. Their votes are worth nothing, but it does make one look twice. Funnily enough, I now wait for them - a bit like the proverbial bad pennies. lol
That's just irritating.
However, the downvote revenge, of which one of our fellow PHCs has been a victim, is infantile. It's what has put a pall on my sense of Steem's being a "kinder place". It also confirmed for me that trolls and bullies, like leopards, don't change their spots. Not because they can't but rather because they don't want to. It doesn't suit them. They get a kick out of the vicarious power it gives them. I could go on, but I'm sure you get my drift.
This would seem, to me, to be the kicker.
I also wanted to add that not being a gamer, and being inherently collegial rather than competitive, I don't get SMTs and the gamification of Steem (and other things). This means I also don't get the tribes and the other interfaces from which to post to Steem unless they are like Steempress which is integrated with another major platform and is, IMO, a DApp that has a genuine value add. The addition of tribes as tags is a distractor. Again IMO.
I do, however, see enormous value in communities - like PHC, folk with common interests, like homesteading, etc., as well as groups concerned with onboarding plankton and the curation of quality like @curie, @c-squared, @quator. I'm also a supporter of the newly introduced #oc (original content) as part of @ocd (Ithink) which allows creators to self-identify genuine content. I have no doubt that if anyone uses #oc and has plagiarised, that community's powers-that-be will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
This brings me to my final point: quality. I, and a few others like @quillfire and @blockurator have opined on this ad nauseum, appreciating (and here I go again, mixing metaphors) that one man's meat is another's poison, and that it was not quality that featured on the old trending page. Incidentally, I was only prompted to look at because of this comment, and when I scrolled through the top ten posts, 8 were steem related - DApps, New Steem or Steemfest; one was about the future behaviour of a bot account, so also steem related. Of the remaining two, one is a post from a whale about WWII and the other from one of the curation initiatives I've mentioned. What I saw there, by and large, doesn't inspire me to return in a hurry. If I spent all my time caught up in Steem matters, when would I create? When would I have a life? lol
In conclusion, then, I think that we're still in a settling period for #newsteem and I'm encouraged by some of the comments you've received on this post; the value of communities on Discord that run alongside Steemit are invaluable and not to be underestimated.
Thanks for yet another thought-provoking piece.
PS I love the rose of sharon. I didn't know that it was indigenous to Korea. I grew a blue one, once, from a piece that I nicked from someone's garden. It's making me think that once our water is sorted, I should go in search of another. It's a beautiful shrub.
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I'm thankful for your great reply. The comments have been a little overwhelming and overly civil as well which is great. This means there is a lot of value clearly to see here.
Your comments on revenge voting are very insightful. We share similar opinions.
It is interested how you are using Steem Press and your word press blog more often. I've always been tempted to get a domain and do it myself as well so I'm a true owner of my content and not at the mercy of a service blockchain or not.
This is very interesting. It is a huge issie with Steem and IT in general. They forgot to appeal to the masses you need to make semse for the masses. Gamers play games and live stream. Most of the games here are doing well, but these are native to Steem. I don't see Steem competing with Twitch.
Steem needs to male more sense and people need to stop treating it like a game....or at least need to think that there are various rules and when they conflict we have tools like flags to deal with it. I have interesting ideas about return on income I want to discuss in one of my next heavy posts.
Think of Steem like an auction or bidding game.
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If you think of SMTs as a way of tokenizing communities and allowing them to branch off of Steem but still be in the same ecosystem, maybe you can understand some of the changes that will happen around here. Why are we sharing the same platform and rewards with people we have no common interest with? If Steem value was independent of community value, it would solve the problem with flags because we would just boot the bad actors from the community and their ability to earn rewards overall would be fine.
Again agreed. As someome who tries to imprive quality and engagement I see the frustration.
The idea behind curation os this is how people get rewarded from their stake. Posts are rewarded based on quality and value. My idea I hinted at earlier directly addresses this point. In brief, people could preset a value for their post after which rewards get sent to the dao or null or say steempeak. It would be optional, but it would give curators and authors a better sense of value eventually. I'll expand on this later and your comment is most useful here.
I agree with your comclusion, but would also like to use the word 'networks'
Glad you like the rose of sharon. I think it is native to Korea, it is their national flower so it would be odd if it is imported. However I understand some nations use mythical creatures of their national animals, so why not?
I'm sorry for waiting to long to get to your comment because I was waiting for your opinion.
I know this post is past its payout, but things (as is currently the way) ran away with me, too.
Well, perhaps people are realising that it's more constructive to engage around the issues than to attack the person. Long may it last.
On the domain issue and owning your content: do it. It's cost effective and if you are wanting to produce content that has broad appeal, using a platform like WordPress enables (not just allows) sharing to multiple social platforms - not just Steemit which is via a plug-in and not part of their standard service. If you want to pursue that route, you are welcome to DM me and I'll put you in touch with the folk that have been so helpful to me.
On appealing to the masses - I couldn't agree more. I am aware that I now fall into a particular demographic profile - one that is often silent and invisible. Female and over 55. I do, however, live in a country that has a youthful population which begs the question as to who are the masses? It depends which country you are in. This does, however, go to your point. I also think, if I may be so blatant, that many of the drivers and developers are male whose interests and preoccupations are often very different from females'. I am generalising, but there is a distinct difference in interests. It's neither right nor wrong. It just is. Perhaps what I'm suggesting is that there needs to be a more concerted effort to find out who some of the users are, and their interests. And no, being on a blogging blockchain is not a game. Another example is that folk my age are less inclined to selfies and making videos of themselves. Particularly women. It would take an awful lot for me to put myself in front of a webcam. My most recent post has a rare photograph of me.
I look forward to your expanding on the curation rewards issue.
And, on the issue of mythical creatures: South Africa beat Wales in the semi-final of the rugby world cup. Wales' Celtic dragon didn't quite vanquish the South African Springboks!
Have a good week!
On SMTs: Thanks for the explanation. I'll watch and wait. I've climbed on the bandwagon using the tags. I need to remember to redeem them from time to time.
I'm glad people are preferring to engage, rather than just have Internet shouting matches. I don't like the attitude where people refuse to even try to see eye-to-eye or even engage in civil discourse with each other. All the countries with the biggest political problems and nuttiest politicians suffer from this a little. On a side note, people who are trying to bring that style of debate to Canada are failing miserably, thankfully.
I'm fairly familiar with Wordpress, as I used it to make a few websites, I'm just a little unfamiliar with Steempress, but I'm sure it's fairly easy to use.
It's annoying to be in the demographic that is silent and invisible. However, I think for others who are really interested in onboarding and getting people on to Steem, they should definitely be more interested in discussing things with you than with me. I'm in the most common demographic for Steem anyway (male between 25-40). I'm not sure if Steem will ever have the teenager appeal or if anyone wants that but it will be neat if someone makes a community that appeals to young adults, or even more interesting, children. I do think Steem does appeal a little more to an older crowd and people who are investors or entrepreneurs. Blockchain in general does.
Touching back on the community thing, I do hope communities that are a little more advanced than tribes pop-up. For now I see many of them being little more than a hashtag that at best you need to stay on topic with. Maybe the purely Steem ones will be better or attrach existing companies that want a tokenized forum. I can see a lot of potential uses.
I was happy to see England win too. Not that I'm a fan, but New Zealand has been doing so well and England has had a really tough year in politics.
Confrontational and personality politics - I loathe both but it seems to characterise most things. Sadly.
Then for you, it'll be a doddle. A plugin and you just add your posting key and you're synced. Done.
On the demographic issue: it's frustrating. That said, I think that the Steemit powers that be should consider how many "developed" countries have ageing populations (where women are in the majority), and where they could onboard lots of people. IMO and I'm hazarding a guess that the majority of the quality content on the platform - with broad appeal - by and large comes from Steemians who are probably 35+. With the rare gems as exceptions.
Indeed.
Winning the RWC2019 would be good for both SA and England.