RE: Topkek of the day 2019-09-24: Grumpy Greta Thunberg at the UNGA
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The wicked communist adults who are using this child as a tool will face the judgement of God. Shame on the climate cult and their non scientific false religion of despair and bondage.
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Now that was not nice at all. I care about the environment and the future of the coming generations. Those of us that have those concerns are not all Communists, or members of a cult. Plus, *whose god? Your god, my G-D?
The worship of a god is a choice. I don't speak for my G-D. Evidently you speak for your god. I perceive you a prophetess. Be careful you don't misquote. That may make your god angry.
My G-D made human beings stewards of the earth. Hoping all will be well is all fine and good. Taking action when there is a problem I believe is better! Old saying when I was a seminarian...
One can be a good steward of the earth without submitting to the UN plan to subdue us all in the name of their unscientific, political agenda.
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Your comment indicates you intend to apply reason to the issue at hand. The scientific method is based on reason, on experiment and observation. PCB's are shown by observation to be pollutants, and many similar chemical products of industry as well. CO2 is the opposite. It is shown to be a necessary nutrient upon which life on Earth is dependent.
If you would research CO2, you will observe this fact. Once that is known to you, you can then test the propaganda availed to the public for veracity. You don't need to break bread with Greta Thunberg to realize her advocacy of removing a vital nutrient from ecosystems based on photosynthesis is harmful to life itself.
Confirm or deny the above graphics to ascertain the facts of the matter. Proceed accordingly.
Science is not my best academic subject. Guess I need to read more of #stemgeek Tribe's posts. I remember from ecology in the 9th grade though that plants like CO2 (one molecule of Carbon, two molecules of Oxygen). That is a given.
Dumping plastic, fossil fuels and hazardous waste in the water, be it streams, lakes, or the ocean is bad! I live in Pennsylvania, United States where the Susquehanna River is the backup water source. Not long ago, loads and loads of oil from a broken pipeline were dumped into that water.
In northern Pennsylvania and our neighboring state, Ohio, earthquakes have increased and this shortly after fracking for natural gas began. Bees have decreased, birds are just dropping from the sky and dying... something is going on.
The neighbors get mad at me because I feed the birds and their cars have bird poop on them. Well I live in urban sprawl, helped to take away their natural habitat because of all the cement and less worms and plants. My apartment complex keeps manicured lawns with poison killing weeds.
Carbon Tax? I don't know, but definitely a pollution tax. I am old enough to remember being in 29 Palms California when I was stationed there with the Marine Corps watching the smog rise over the mountains from Los Angeles.
Look at what is happening in India and other areas in Asia. That ain't good. Very smokey from pollution.
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I am not a scientist, yet I am learning. Hard to learn today. Fake science, fake news...it all leaves me in a quandry.
I grasp the dilemma you face, but the graphs are relatively simple, and if you examine them thoughtfully, you will understand them. If you choose not to exercise your faculties and remain ambivalent about a carbon tax, you remain susceptible to propaganda that is intended to do great evil, and for that you will be responsible.
Greta does not wax irascible over PCBs, teflon cookware, or other endocrine disrupting pollution for a reason. She flogs CO2 because she is a paid shill lying about AGW, not a honest child defending people from harm, despite the easy to grasp fact that CO2 is a necessary nutrient for all photosynthetic plants, and is the foundation of Earth's ecosystems upon which we depend.
The way to combat fake science is understanding. Willfully failing to understand this matter potentiates existential risk to life on Earth, including people. If you would be a good steward, you will need to learn to separate truth from lies. CO2 is a simple thing, and the fossil record of it's abundance in our atmosphere is clear. You are responsible to society for undertaking the necessary education to oppose evil lies and support what is good and true, because you have authority, as do we all, over social instantiation.
Please responsibly undertake that responsibility and seek the necessary information regarding CO2 abundance on Earth and it's affect on plants, so that you no longer participate in harming society through acquiescence to evil acts due to nescience. You are nescient, you claim. Failing to cure that nescience in view of it's simplicity demonstrates instead ignorance.
There is no excuse for that.
Edit: the chart you posted clearly includes CO2 amongst pollutants. It is part of the fake science and fake news propaganda you lament. Seek factual sources, such as the debate undertaken by actual climate scientists at wuwt.com (watts up with that). I don't think you want to be fooled. I don't think you want to help evil people do harm. The only way to not be fooled into doing harm is to understand truth evil people want to conceal.
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Many, not all, but many find scientific proof for their preconceived notions. In the case of businesses they find scientific proof to find profit.
Good example is that fat in foods causes obesity. Fake Science!
Processed sugar, which is in pretty much everything now days is the number one reason for obesity, not fat. Many years ago this myth was promulgated by Scientific Studies bought and paid for by Sugar Moguls.
Truth? What is truth? Even the Christian God stood mute when asked by Pontius Pilate. Truth is the information one believes until proven wrong with facts. Sadly sometimes that does not even work.
Is our existence a hologram? Are their aliens? Did we actually have someone walk on the moon? Was Jesus Christ actually an historical figure? Is psychic ability a real thing? Is the world flat?
You will find very differing views on the questions above by very intelligent people. If I am nescience in your mind (had to look that word up, thanks for adding to my vocabularity by the way), so be it. I remind my-self everday...
—Abraham Lincoln
I worry more about my character than some measurement of my intellect. I have known many smart people over the years that had absolutely no character.
I expect you do worry more about your character than IQ, which is why you are susceptible to facts. The argument you seem to be making here is that there are no facts, or no facts we can ascertain. People disagree, which is why experiment has value, to demonstrate the right of it so that reasonable people can agree, because experiment proves facts, and facts give the reasonable basis for understanding. It is factual that CO2 is an essential nutrient for plants, and there seems to be no disagreement on this matter, not even by most unreasonable people. It is also factual that plants are the primary producers of food in terrestrial ecosystems, and if plants get more CO2 than they presently do, they will produce more.
These facts aren't disputed by Greta Thunberg and her ilk. They are ignored. You can test that plants produce more yourself quite easily with a plant grown under lights in a room. When you add a bucket full of dry ice (frozen CO2) you allow to evaporate in the room from time to time, the plant grows faster. There is a limit to the beneficial effect of CO2, but it is far above any level Earth has experienced in history, and 55mya CO2 was more than ten times the level we enjoy today while life throve, including coral reefs.
I don't know about any God or gods being mute. Perhaps those listening would not have profited from anything said, in the estimation of the deities. I have no such foreknowledge, so speak when situations indicate reason is necessary. An interesting thing about CO2 is that without it, plants die. The level at which most plants in nature begin to expire from lack of CO2 is ~190ppm, a level we bounced off during the LGM. CO2 has been being locked up in coal and other rocks due to natural processes since life on Earth began, and returning that CO2 to the atmosphere where plants can use it to photosynthesize is a good idea.
Your character is revealed by your conduct. To be is to do. Should natural ecosystems be grossly harmed, people will be dependent for food, water, and air on companies that produce them. Whether that is the political purpose of those behind Greta Thunberg I do not know, but I do know how to prevent such existential power from being effected over me and mine: restore atmospheric CO2 to levels approximately an order of magnitude higher than it presently is.
You can test CO2 levels in your garage to determine by experiment that plants grow more food more quickly at those levels, and you will observe that you do not choke or strangle in that atmosphere. Those are facts, and if you remain ambivalent regarding easily provable facts in the face of lies being propagated at considerable expense by nefarious political forces, you demonstrate your character.
I seem to recall someone once stating that ambivalence is worse than lies, and recommending being either hot or cold, because those that are neither will be spewed out of His mouth as worthless. It is one thing to be nescient. It is another to be determined not to know. Nescience is excusable. Ignorance is vile, particularly when knowing is so easy.
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And that brat is a complete idiot because:
Yes, commy mom, economic growth is eternal and never-ending because there is something called science, tech and knowledge. Add some free market and you have all the ingredients