Buyback + Bot Bans

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(Edited)

This is a short report about Holybread.

Buyback of Breadcrumbs

Today we bought back 187,000,000 Breadcrumbs (HBC) from users on Steem Engine. We used approximately 1189 Steem.
Breadcrumbs were bought in two waves throughout the day:

  1. sebuyback1.png
  2. sebuyback2.png
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You can see the history on Steem Engine: https://steem-engine.rocks/@holybread

The next buyback will be on next Sunday (7 days from now).

Note: Every week we use 20% of the whole prize pool to buy back Breadcrumbs from users.

Bots

As you know bots are not allowed in Holybread (https://steempeak.com/holybread/@holybread/rules-of-holybread).
We want to prevent users from using bot armies with the only purpose to farm items, heroes and breadcrumbs with the intend to earn Steem.

To protect the value of our real players's ingame assets we are always actively searching for bots.
So far we have banned 401 automated accounts from Holybread and will keep on banning bots.

Additional note

Some players seem to have hopes to get rich fast playing the game. That won't happen!
It is possible to make gains but most people won't! This is a game and it's main purpose is to have fun. Earning money is just a very little side option next to having fun. Some people seem to forget that.

The game is in its very very early stage. The current gameplay is the least playable version. If you are already having fun that's great. If you are only playing to get rich that probably won't work.

We are working on the game but it will take time and a lot of work to make it a really great game. You have to start somewhere I guess..

Our main goal is to grow with the Steem community and be one of the many reasons for Steem's future success. (Maybe you can get rich at some point but only through increasing the value of every single Steem!)



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Happy to hear that you can take some countermeasures against bots.
I am looking forward to more gameplay.

Keep up the good work :)

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Can we see the banned user list somewhere ? I am quite curious to see if any familiar names pop up :D
Then I could laugh at them while I can still play the game

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I would love to see a list too. Not so much a laughing matter for me, I've spent hundreds of Steem on this game.

A little public shaming, for sure.. Let's do it..

I'm sure some will disagree with my logic, but idgaf

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There is no public list. We believe it's not a good idea to name and shame people in the public.

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You guys are kicking ass, keep doing what you are doing! This is by far my most favorite game on steem. Hell yeah it's cool to make some money playing an awesome game but I'm honestly just happy to pay for my in game upgrades every week! Thanks for making such an awesome game, I couldn't be happier ;0)

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Yeah, I hate that bots too. In steemmonsters game, few people were selling them and bunch of players bought them.

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Still didn't get bored with Holybread @worldfinances? :)

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this only takes a minute per day to do main things. I can deal with that. If it would be really interesting, you would play it for few hours daily :)

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Hi again @worldfinances

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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Thanks for the update! It's really cool what you are doing here...

There's a nice opportunity to make some money by trading HBC on Steem-Engine. I'm currently doing this, and I have to say it, it is as entertaining as the game itself. I hope you will not ban people from trading Breadcrumbs...

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People can trade HBC on Steem-Engine as much as they want. This is not against the game rules.

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Hi @holybread team have you considered adding the possibility of merging 2 objects together?
For example sometimes I find some object with only one strong buff, like shoes with 50+ luck, but i don't use it because it is not convenient if i will lose some other important buff.
Will be awesome if one could combine 2 object to create one stronger.
Of course that possibility will have a cost, i don't know bread,gold...
What do you think about?
Bye and thanks for your job

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Thank you very much for your suggestion. We think that this is a really interesting idea, which will probably be added at some point in a similar way.

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Ohhhh yeah!! It will make me very happy!! Thank you so much for considering me!!
Have a good day :)

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I kinda like the "slow" pace of the game honestly. Building characters, finding gear now and then.... yup. It's not a bad deal at all. I wish buying bread was a little more clear on the "how to" list in the FAQ. But after some time on discord I figured it out. Keep up the fine work gang!

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I applaud you for kicking the bots out of the game!
In the same direction, I would like to draw your attention to the trading bots of the HBC token on the SE market.

Going through the data of last Tuesday's and yesterday's (Sunday's) buyback it could be easily seen that Bot(s) and the User who already abused the glitch of the previous breadcrumbs token (HBBC) took a great advantage at both buybacks occasions against many regular players whose breadcrumbs tokens remained unsold.

Not to mention that the Bot(s) doesn't even have a registered playing account in the game what the whole "buyback" thing makes questionable, raising a question of what kind of buyback we would be talking about in that concrete case?!?

I understand that token and coin markets has its own rules, perform differently and so on. I also understand that you can't really and fully control the market itself, but I believe that there must be a solution for that too. Because, kicking the bots' ass on one side while allowing them on the other wouldn't help the game in the long run. Quite in contrary!

By observing the market in the last 10 days or so, I noticed that above mentioned two (the Bot(s) and the User-abuser) were continuously and actively playing the market and the current token (HBC) price on the SE market all the way long.

At the moment, I find this as a serious problem that affects us (the players) ALL, more or less the same way and in the same amount!

I'm sure none of us want that! And when I say "none of us," I really mean NONE - The Holybread Team in the first place, all of us players, and even not those get-rich-quick hunters - market speculators who are causing it.

Therefore, I think that current buyback system should be revised and changed.

We have already seen that every buyback has been done at cheaper and cheaper price. Regular user and player can't beat market bots either not heavy market speculators acting more or less the same way as the bots do.

Because of that, regular users and players are forced to place their bids lower and lower for eventual chance to sell at least some of their tokens during regular buyback.

Although, as we could see during last two buybacks they have been significantly outperformed by the two above described (the bot(s) and user-abuser) for quite a significant amount of new HBC tokens.

If nothing changes in this regard and the way I see it, especially at the moment when we don't have any in-game usage of the breadcrumbs as well as any other (elsewhere) token usage, and by being destined to the buybacks and buybacks only, on the market speculated by the above described, I'm afraid we might face the HBC token price falling down and coming next to zero in just a few following weeks!

For all these reasons, an idea as a possible solution crossed my mind and I would like to share it with you here. I call it...

First come, first served - The BuyBack Waiting List

Using current already set in place solutions and possibilities (in the game and on the SE market) I would do the following.

1) Determine fixed HBC token buyback price
Let say, 100,000 (100K) tokens for 1 STEEM or vice versa, 1 HBC token = 0.00001 Steem.

2) Players (with registered in-game accounts, not Bots and other similar speculators) would be able to send any time any amount of their HBC tokens to Holybread account.
By that they would enter the queue on the BuyBack Waiting List.

3) Every Sunday when the amount of 20% of the Prize Pool is determined, Holybread account would buybeck the tokens and send the players equivalent amount of Steem (STEEMP) in the amount and order they arrived.

4) The players whose tokens were not bought-back would remain at the top of the queue for the next week (Sunday) buyback.

5) Players in a hurry (for whatever reason) would always be able to sell their tokens on the SE market at the actual market price to some other players with some extra Steem who are not in some urgency to sell their tokens and/or willing to invest in the token that way and wait a bit longer for their buyback.


I am aware that in the current situation and game/market settings this offered solution might cause some additional unplanned extra work for Holybread Team, but I believe it would be way fairer than the current system is due to the different kind of speculators who are trying to monopolize the market and are influencing the token price at the moment.

Currently, I don't have an idea how to automate this and avoid manual labor around it, but maybe some other user/player would come up with the solution for that too.

As well, there is always a possibility to talk with SE Team and see how they can help you in this direction from their side.

However, my strong opinion still is, if we want to avoid further price drops that some change in the current buyback system certainly should be done!


Please don't take this as some criticism as it's NOT.
It's just a detection of an issue that might punch us all with bigger consequences that they could be foreseeing before, and accordingly just a constructive critique of the noticed problem with offered solution (good or not so good).

Therefore, and hoping that you would take this long comment in the most positive way as it was intended to be, I'm looking forward for the buyback improvement as well as for the all new features you are planning to implement in the game to make it great!

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Hi @ana-maria ,
Thank you so so much for your long and detailed comment. We really appreciate how much effort you put into this feedback and we did not take this as anything negative at all. Indeed we see it as a really constructive suggestion we agree with a 100%.
We are not happy with the current buyback system either as some players are disadventaged. We want to create a fair system for everyone where trading bots have no advantage at all.
In the next few days there will be an announcement on the changes we are going to make, as we are already working on our new buyback system. It will make the buyback much easier for all players but it takes some time until the new system will supersede the curent buyback as we want to make sure that every player is well informed and no one is confused.
I am excited to hear whether or not you like our idea, so watch out for the next post of @holybread.

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It would be good if a buy-back percentage could be set for every user on a weekly basis. Let's say, 50% of Breadcrumbs a player has, for example, if a player has 100,000 then Holybread will buy 50,000, and if player has 50,000 then Holybread will buy-back 25,000.

These were just examples, price and percentage can be adjusted to different numbers.

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Dear @auminda,
Thank you very much for your kind reply! It truly cheered me up! 😀
Now I'm eagerly waiting for your next post with news, updates and changes.

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I am excited for further updates! I see potential for this game. Btw are you looking for an artist for your artwork/avatars? My friend is an illustrator and might have time to help.

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Do Breadcrumbs have any in game value? Can I use them to buy items, or make bread?

Thanks in advance...
Loving the game. Playing it everyday.

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There is no ingame value yet but that will change until the end of this month ;)

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