RE: I am the wolf in sheep's clothing

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You were curation snipping almost whole of Hive and most of them are popular authors. You are just whining because you are not able to gain rewards from curation sniping. Now you are complaining why others are doing it, so ironic.

Would you stop telling lies because your so called automated support vanishes into thin air when post's STU becomes more than $2, which show you are mainly concerned for rewards only.

I still don't feel the need to explain anything to you because you cannot make stupid person realize that he is stupid. I expect your puppets to soon appear in comments, without making any sense at all.

Previously, you were complaining about low competition in curation and you are still whining, no surprise there.



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198 unique accounts/week is all of Hive? Wow it's much smaller than I expected. You are voting over 500 unique accounts, more than twice I do. I actually choose who I vote very specifically based on quality and effort not based on their rewards, I vote accounts of all sizes. I don't target "popular authors" and don't vote because it is the best curation rewards. I could likely double or triple my curation rewards if that was my primary concern. I actively review my votes and remove people if they abuse the votes or go down in quality or effort.

I don't use puppets, so any other comments are not my own.

I never complained about low competition in curation, I said your votes focus on no curation competition. There is a difference because in general curation has massive competition.

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Do you OWN those 198 authors? Everyone is free to upvote however they like just like you said.
Can you just stop telling lies again, you do upvote popular authors?

Automated votes on any post do not describe the quality of post because trails are just blind and automatic. I have said it earlier that I won't encourage any curation sniping trails who try to gain more rewards with least effort.

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Do you OWN those 198 authors? Everyone is free to upvote however they like just like you said.

Of course not, that's not the point, the point is you are using your 8M HP to specifically target my votes because you are mad about something (I can only assume I voted someone you vote for and are doing it in spite, especially after the regular messages from people asking me to stop voting them so you can vote them.)

Can you just stop telling lies again, you do upvote popular authors?

Let me rephrase it, I don't specifically vote on popular authors, it's not my criteria, there is no question some of my votes land on them, they are popular for a reason and that's a good thing as it means more curation rewards are burned in the reverse auction. Many of the people I vote became popular over time but were not when I started to vote them. There are hundreds (likely thousand) of popular authors I don't vote on because I don't like their content, they get enough support, or just not my thing, or I just simply haven't discovered them.

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I explained your sole criteria of choosing those authors. They are easy targets for you to gain more curation rewards by sniping and your votes disappear when posts rewards become more than $2.

You also forgot the fact that you are doing curating snipping with 2M HP and that makes you the biggest curation sniper on Hive, just to gain rewards on personal account with delegated stake.

When you don't have any factual answer, you just make your own stupid theories.

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I explained your sole criteria of choosing those authors.

You can explain them all you like doesn't make them facts.

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I explained your sole criteria of choosing those authors. They are easy targets for you to gain more curation rewards by sniping and your votes disappear when posts rewards become more than $2.

curation sniping below 2$? 😳 this must be super effective

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If nobody voted on post with more than 2htu, we wouldn't be having the problems we have now, iyam.

I mean, do curation snipers really need those pennies they take from the poor that bad?

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When did the reverse auction stop feeding into the trending page and start getting burned?

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If I remember correctly it was HF21. The reverse auction was lowered from 30 minutes to 15 minutes and the rewards returned to the pool rather than going towards the author. (Now the reverse auction is 5 minutes).

It doesn't get burned, it gets returned to the pool (to payout to rewarded content) similar to declined rewards, subtle but significant difference.

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Ok, that is what I had recorded in the ol' memory bank.
Reverse auction rewards go the biggest receivers of rewards and are not burned.

that's a good thing as it means more curation rewards are burned in the reverse auction.

That had me confused.

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Yes, here is a good example.

The other day I was looking at a post that was $36, with 50/50 rewards that is $18 for the author and $18 for the curators. The final numbers were more like $18 to author and $13 to curators due to the reverse auction.

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Can you point me to where I track who takes the most out of the pool?

@statsmonkey used to show the top 10 votes taking ~25% of the daily rewards, is somebody tracking those numbers?

The reason I ask is about how the reward from the reverse auction, and flags, goes mostly to the top earners.

Is there somewhere I can see what percentage of the pool is going to whom, and in what proportion?

Or do I just need to learn/purchase code scripts to pull it myself?

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@dalz does a lot of reports that show this information, I highly recommend following him if you have any interest.

I can generally pull any information as needed but he does publish a lot of this information regularlly.

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Yes, I have him on one of my autovoters.

Can I get that data without an sql subscription?

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Thanks, I found that post of dalz's, it was pretty complete.

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I'm also wondering how much that first curator returns to the fortunate few.

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I forget the exact numbers, but the first few (I believe five) curators have an advantage of earning more rshares than their stake allows, but they also give up the largest portion to the reverse auction. I never actually checked this or looked at the code related to it, but it is what I always heard in the past.

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So, if I have a .01 immediate vote, what does that do to subsequent votes?
If that first votes sends nearly everything back, how much of the large vote is lost to that?

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To you as an author, it makes no difference. To the curator who votes they will lose nearly all their curation rewards for voting immediately.

If I vote on a post at 0 min + 1 block I will forfeit nearly 100% of my curation rewards but the author would get the full author share. If I vote that same post at 5 mins I would not forfeit any of my rewards but I will get less curation as many people voted before me and I can’t earn curation on any vote unless it is after mine.

There is a compromise that needs to be made. How much? Varies every post.

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To you as an author, it makes no difference.

Well, if I cared nothing of my curators, maybe,...

I'm not worried about the money I am getting, I would have to go back to using FBA if I were, only the money that is getting pocketed from the pockets of folks that really need it.

When large accounts take out, literally, thousands of usd each month, it comes from the pennies that the poor would have gotten, but now can't get because the gaping maws of some folks, most of the largest earners here, needed it more.

If I vote on a post at 0 min + 1 block I will forfeit nearly 100% of my curation rewards but the author would get the full author share. If I vote that same post at 5 mins I would not forfeit any of my rewards but I will get less curation as many people voted before me and I can’t earn curation on any vote unless it is after mine.

Allow me to clarify my question.

If I have a .01 initial vote at nearly 0 minutes, how is the 3htu vote that comes in later, after the window closes, affected by that?

That vote clearly won't get its 1.5htu because there were votes before it.
Where does that .01 top out at?
What percentage of that larger vote goes back to the trending authors?

I know curation can be used to deny rewards to my voters, my question is of the impact of small immediate votes on the return of later voters.
Is it large enough to be concerning, or inconsequential?

Curation is a broad, blank area of how to play this game.
Not much light has been shined on it since I got here, that I recall.

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Generally it makes almost no difference as it is so small.

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Ok, so that .01 vote only pulls so much from the curation pool, even with the early voting curve.
I sure would like to see that broke down like this.

Did we run that guy off?

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I am not sure how much of an advantage voting early is in terms of the first five voters, I think it might be something like double your stake but I am not 100% sure, either way that's not enough to make a 0.01 vote really all that significant in the post as a whole.

Not sure what happened, I don't think it was anything dramatic, just likely bored or busy. He was a good content producer.

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Looks like to the fork took him out.
Just another day in the adventure that is hive, I guess.
Thanks for the insights.

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