Opening A Spanish Bank Account Is Harder Than It Sounds!

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Sometimes a little rant is needed

I think I did quite well postponing this rant until the problem was solved as it's been a point of stress for weeks now. You thought the private health insurance thing was our biggest hurdle so far here? Well, guess again! Nope, I think the bank has caused me even more stress because, for a week or two, it seemed as if things were going to be made impossible. And I seriously don't know how we would have solved the other steps (registering as self-employed, paying health insurance etc). Never in my life have I experienced such difficulty opening a local bank account. We actually tried to avoid this part and stick to Revolut as I'm so fond of that, but we were told quite early on in the process that we absolutely need a Spanish bank account that is accepted by the national tax agency. Sounds like something doable, doesn't it?

I expected a nice list of bank yay's and nay's

Instead, we found a lot of "best online banks in Spain", "best local banks in Spain", "best banks for self-employed people in Spain" etc. In fact, most of these lists were quite similar and often mentioned the same banks. No such thing as a solid list that turned out to be correct though! We had to find out this by ourselves, causing quite a lot of time and frustration at some point.

As we are fond of Revolut, we tried that one first, this made the most sense and felt familiar so I was really hoping this would work out! With Revolut it was needed to open a business account apparently so that my boyfriend would receive a Spanish IBAN number because this is not possible with the regular accounts, those start with LT instead of ES.

Revolut business account

We went back and forward and decided which plan would be best to take and he registered for the account. While waiting, I already discovered some red flags regarding the signup process because it was mentioned several times that a registration number of the so-called "autonomo" here was needed. This is odd, to say the least, because if you check the supported business entities, the form "autonomo" is listed. To get the autonomo registration, you need a bank account first. This is of course not an issue if you already live here and have one, but we were facing a chicken and egg situation here. Although quite annoyed after all the searching for the bank accounts, we quickly moved on to the next option.

N26 online bank account

One of the often mentioned bank accounts was N26, I think it's a German bank account but apparently, they offer a Spanish IBAN number, so they seemed to be ok for tax purposes. The registration process was quite simple and fast, before he knew it, he had the details of the bank account and we thought this was it. Then we found out that a business account needed to be accepted by the tax office, sigh. We could not open one on the side, nope, you need either a personal bank account OR a business bank account, not both. But closing it would take 24 hours and afterward he could open the business version. He never did though, because, after more online searching, it seemed as if this bank was not accepted by the tax office after all. Another one to wipe off the list. At this point, it became a little more stressful as it felt we were left in the dark as nobody had clear answers.

Incorrect advice

We hired a "gestor" a person that's taking these bureaucrazy things out of your hands so you don't have to deal with employees that have an off day and are therefore not in the mood to use Google translate when language becomes an issue. For the "autonomo" registration a bank account is needed and we asked him for advice when we met him. His response: "Oh well, you have ING online, it's free" but I don't know. Didn't really sound like this was going to be any struggle hearing him. He never mentioned the fact that these banks can be such a pain and often overcharge insane amounts. We read stories about ING that we instantly stepped away from that idea to look further at other options.

When I emailed him two days later to tell him things would probably be postponed until next week as we could not get an appointment at the branch we choose anytime sooner, he said "ok, let me know". I might have had too high expectations of this person, or he may have been overworked and really in need of his holiday that followed that next week, so we found out when we needed his help. Once we found out that our bank of choice was known to be one of the biggest scammers, he told us it's currently one of the best banks here in Spain, which made me wonder why he'd said that.

The search continues

We canceled our appointment the next Monday because with this many red flags by 500 customers, with barely any good reviews, this was not optional for us anymore. Of course, there are often two sides to the story, but I was not going to get ourselves in these situations if I could avoid it. So we moved on to the next option. I will keep the bank of our choice to ourselves because I feel spitting dirt here may cause some issues maybe and we'd like to avoid getting into these shitty situations with them. We went to one of the bigger branches known here in Spain where opening an online account looked free as well as seemed to take just minutes.

Until you try it and find out that you can't do that online being a foreigner (how hard can it be to just mention this before people try?). My boyfriend called them and asked for an appointment with an English-speaking bank employee. Fine, they'd call back the next day. More than a week later, we hadn't heard back, and finally, there was some time again to go to appointments (after some days where the workload was too high to leave during office hours) so we decided to just go to the bank.

Waiting in line

Once it was our turn we were moved to a lady (the only other person there) at a desk who didn't seem too friendly and just continued what she was doing for at least 20 minutes before she even started talking to us. In the meantime, she also started a discussion with another customer who clearly wasn't amused by her answers, and after that her rude treatment. It was not a very welcoming feeling we had there. Once she copied our passports and saw the reference number she started talking very annoyed come back on Monday (it was Thursday) and no matter how my boyfriend offered to use Google translate and her to speak on the mic, she wanted us out, that was clear. Making an appointment was only possible for clients, not new ones. Talking about welcoming new clients, djeez.

Meanwhile we digged a little deeper

As I want to be prepared for these visits and avoid having another stressful situation where we are sent home because of a missing paper or something like it, I want to walk through all options and possible documents asked. My boyfriend said it might be smart to take the private health insurance policy (great idea) as well as print the tax declaration from last year. Meanwhile, we read all these horrible things about them needing things we can't offer them as we are new here, so I was a little worried. I think the stress must have gotten to me because that night I started to have a fever and in the morning there was no way I could walk down, let alone up that hill that morning. Thankfully, my boyfriend decided to go anyway.

Invalid NIE number

When we lived in Spain before, we both got an NIE number we needed that to get health care for example. I got a green card because at the time, I was working for a Spanish employer and he was taking care of our daughter. This meant he got a white A4 paper with NIE number. Of course, I asked the gestor if this was an issue, no, it wasn't. Great, we did not expect any issues as this guy would know, right? When arriving at the bank with the English speaking employee, he told him the NIE was invalid he needed to go to the police station to get a new one. So he went there and the police station told him to go to the "Officina de extranjeria" (immigration office I think it is in English). This office was not here, nope, the big city (read: at least hour travel walking/bus/bus 2x PLUS the waiting there, great!).

Back to the bank

He just went back to the bank and then the guy offered him another option, this was the only one and could be done with a passport. Djeez, why didn't anyone tell us this before, we don't care if it's not done with an NIE number, I mean we'll take care of that later, just give us the easiest option was my thought by then. This bank account came with mandatory house insurance as well as 160 euros costs a year. The card was not included so in the end, it's actually 200 for the account and 200 for the insurance. Fine by me, waste of money but all these useless visits, stress, and hours off from work are adding up and need to stop as, after the bank, the next steps are waiting: self-employment registration and applying for a residence permit.

Good news!

He came home with an account. We read the document and when I saw something that grabbed my attention, I translated it with my phone to be sure I understood this correctly. It said, "a daily balance of 3000 euros must be met or 5. something % interest will be charged". I almost started hyperventilating here because with all the costs we paid to get here as well as to settle here (a still ongoing process) we won't have that balance on our account immediately so already saw huge payments to the bank, money thrown in the bin. Boyfriend went back, a bit upset as this guy didn't mention this to him, I mean that's something you should mention! Turns out that the translation did not correctly translate it (great, if it works!) it said that if you have 3000 euro daily balance the bank GIVES you that percentage!

With the note added: "If it was as you thought it was, most people would not be able to have a bank account in Spain." All the stress about the fine prints was for nothing, but at least, we finally had this valid bank account so we could move on to the next step!

To be continued...

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Banking has become such a nuisance! And your story is a prime example of the need to get around the traditional banking system!

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Yes, if it were up to us, we would have fully skipped opening a local bank account as I've been very happy with Revolut metal for several years now and the costs are much lower than regular banking.

I do remember that IF we were to get a tax return in Hungary though, that this bank account would not be sufficient! They needed a local Hungarian bank account number to receive taxes there. BUT at least I could just do my monthly flat tax payments from that account. Thankfully, by the time we filed our yearly taxes, we still had our Hungarian account so we could receive back the money from them.

I guess it's a common practice and it's quite a headache because the information on how and what exactly is not clear. I'm glad it's behind us though, it was quite stressful to say the least. They seriously expect you to be able to come back a next day, next week etc and spend another few hours (plus time getting there and going home) during their opening hours while people have to work. But then again, this was the same in Hungary.

Soon, everything is behind us, and up and running and I can't wait for that moment because it's a true mood killer :)

!CTP

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That's definitely not the most friendly or welcoming experience ... Hopefully the following steps are much easier.

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If only someone mentioned earlier on, this is a nightmare, be aware that if you are ok with paying 400 euros a year (mandatory house insurance and banking fees) you can also just open an account with your passport instead of all the regular way with all these requirements. I think honestly, we may have gone for that right away as I needed to get this insurance anyway because we rent furnished and it's all brand new furniture. So to save us all the time searching, stress, hours of visiting branches, I'd probably have said, let's do that after one failed attempt. But at least it's done.

!CTP

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It sure sounds like a nightmare, but at least it's now something to check off your list and let go of the stress about it.

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Glad about that because I'm having constant headaches the past weeks. Apparently, it's hard to let go of the stress as I can't change the fact that things move slow haha. But hopefully, by the time September arrives and school is arranged (all closed now), all is going smooth.

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Oh I know, it is hard to let go of stress. And be aware that you can even get sick after the stress factors are gone. If your body has survived for a long time on stress, you can even get sick once the stress disappears and you can finally relax and take time for yourself.

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It is a pain in the backside sometimes but i imagine the long term benefit will outweigh the inconvenience of this now

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I'm not sure if that's the case, as I'd much rather continue banking with Revolut metal only. I'm very fond of my budgeting options in there and cashback :) BUT if the taxing system doesn't allow this, we have to adjust as I'm not willing to risk getting in trouble with the taxing agency :)

I think all these steps here that are made difficult can be easily solved if pointed out by the gestor we hired to help us with the self employment registration as well as residence. This is info they should pass on imo. I will defo give him that feedback once this is all a done deal. It's not that hard to list the banks accepted by the taxes, if you ask me.

But maybe the issue here is that Spanish people are not that used to updating the online data as fast as the rest of us Europeans yet, at least that's what I was told a few years ago when we lived here. We are way ahead doing everything online apparently. I'm trying to tell myself "if they aren't in a hurry, don't worry, it will be fine don't stress" haha. But at some point you just want things done and behind you.

!CTP

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Bureaucrazy! I'm sorry to hear that you had such a struggle. Spain is a pain. Or rather, it's bureaucracy. Corrupt as duck. And the peeps do many things to sneak around. So, they are smart if it gets to surviving mode within the economy.

In some cases, we may be able to help. We are happy to help. Ask us. Lluna is from Barcelona. Even more difficult to deal with Spain. Together we speak, and understand, Catalan, Spanish, English and German very well. We both are self-employed in Germany. Lluna's family has a lot of experience in running businesses in Barcelona, Catalunya.

Thanks for sharing your story.

!CTP

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Haha, so you understand the bureaucrazy all too well! Don't get me wrong, we're very happy to be here, and not in Hungary anymore. And we kind of expected struggles as it's the same thing every time. BUT I was not mentally prepared for this level of stress around a freaking bank account, lol. At least that part is checked off the list.

The registration for autonomo was fixed in one day, I just heard it this morning. So that part, check. Great, something went smooth!

Now the next one is getting the right NIE at immigration because only I have the right one, (green card) and boyfriend has the white paper which apparently is not valid anymore. Of course, we expected this, but every time I asked the answer was "it's fine". Sigh. Anyway, at least the lady from that office comes along to assist and that will make this one immigration visit a lot smoother than the ones we had several years ago without any help!
(trying to look on the bright side haha)

I hope the rest of the residence application goes smooth, but I'm kind of assuming it won't lol. I appreciate the offer for help, if I have questions, I'm sure to ask now that you offered. Thank you both so much <3 It can be a true struggle with outdated information and not speaking Spanish fluently yet. BUT at least this is also already an upgrade compared to Hungarian because we understand much more and people are quite patient when we use Google translate if we are unsure. The total experience is already better than where we spent the 4,5 years before going back to Spain. This too shall pass.

!CTP

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Congratulations to your checks!
Yes, we do understand. But actually, it's not because of Spain's bureaucrazy. It's because we had a lot of challenges in Australia. The wonderful Oz and its lovely peeps, the Strayans. Beside a heat with the beat of death's drone. Lovely, really.
To our surprise, we could not get the fruits. Except the wonderful experience.
We still get some fallout.
Anyway, we feel you. That's why we are keen to help. Sometimes it's not a language issue. We experienced some funny encounters in México recently.

Godspeed to your residence application.

!CTP

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My god, such trouble! One annoying thing is that when you're told by an official that your "number is invalid", and another annoying thing is different people tell you different rules. Anyway the stress made you ill, I hope you've recovered from that exhaustion and you're all ok by now!

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I think honestly, that's the thing I can handle the least: me asking them directly upfront, is this ok when I already suspect it may not be. Then telling me yes no problem, I move on to the next thing and then we get set back maybe weeks because it turns out I was right. AARGH haha.

My cold is gone but I'm having a few days of constant headaches, so just taking it easy and trying to let it go. It helps that the registration for self employment was done in a day, so super smooth! Hopefully, residence will be smooth as well once the appointment date is there. Fingers crossed :)

Thanks for stopping by!

!CTP

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Poco a Poco y Paso a Paso but what was wrong with that A4 paper.... I have been using mine for 15 years and never had any issues

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Si senor, and no idea. I asked that "gestor" upfront he said no no it's fine. Then he went to the bank, they send him to the police station to change it who sent him to immigration (which was not optional as that's an hour bus trip even though the city is just 15 mins car drive haha). But when they told him at the bank with passport it was possible too and then you save all this hassle with needed documents, he let that slide anyway.

When they started the process for residency, that lady said the same, it needed to be renewed (and the little girl didn't have one yet).

Lucky me, I don't have to join them :) haha so I will not, remember there in Granada, I had enough of these visits there already first for me and then for him separate as I needed to be there with my paperwork. Nah, I'm good, lol.

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Yeah its weird I know they told me to renew it as well in the past after 5 years I think, but even for buying this apartment and getting a mortgage nobody even mentioned it. It a weird country but there are worse places !CTP

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Yeah you told me, I told my bf as well that you mentioned that. It's probably just who helps you at the desk, and if this person pays enough attention or not. I don't think in this country they get a notification in the system that this document is outdated like it would in another country. Because of these "flaws" in the system you can be extremely in luck or run out of luck I think. Defo worse countries to be in! :)

!CTP

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Wow so much stress for just a bank account.

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Not even needed, that's what's making it even worse. If someone mentioned the short cut, I bet we would have gone for that after one failed attempt :)

But we're moving on to the next steps.. another one done and dusted!

!CTP

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It brings back memories of my own expat journey. The motto here is langsam langsam. Lol

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Oh, wow -- ay caramba! That was a BATTLE. You almost needed El Cid to ride through there! That was BAD ... but you WON!

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Well, I honestly never thought this was going to be such a challenge. And then to think about the fact that someone could have pointed out, hey listen you can open one with a passport only, it will just cost you the mandatory insurance and some banking fees on top of it. It would have saved us several days of worrying and wondering how to get the needed documents :)

Moving on now.. next! :)

!CTP

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