Life before social distancing
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It's hard to beat just sitting back and having a good old yarn and a laugh among friends. Kathmandu, Nepal. Taken on Fuji Provia slide film.
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Such a cool shot. I hope we can go back to normal anytime soon. It would be a shame if you could not take photos like this one anymore.
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Oh, i am sure 12 month from now everyone forgets this whole situation :) Like many times before and history repeats itself. And we'll be able to take shots like this and enjoy rediscovered value of this :)
Hmm. I am not so sure. I can't see international travel being unregulated for at least 12 months if not 18 months.
Then we are in a very bad situation as humanity. I personally think the whole thing is a scam. The reason for this being that i do not know a single case or a single person affected personally and i do not trust official media.
If i were told by somebody who directly saw people dying of this and treating those patients and i trusted that person i might be convinced otherwise. For now there are tree times more victims of flu than corona let alone other illnesses that take much more lives by far and i do not justify the extreme measures.
And in general the whole thing, and the way they put it to the public, vague facts and reasoning they provide does not convince me.
Not sure where you get those numbers on flu. I don't want to start another debate about flu vs covid. But if your interested I suggest you look into background death rates or 'excess deaths'. (some data here). Excess deaths over background normal rates don't lie as no one has to determine if they are Covid deaths or otherwise. Italy for example has a death rate 90% higher than the background rate for the past two months. In fact excess deaths would underestimate things because the lock downs reduce deaths in other ways (less car accidents, less flu or other transferable disease from social distancing etc).
As a foreigner looking in it is hard not to scratch ones head at the American response in wonderment at how a country could politicize a crisis like this along partisan lines. Unfortunately the divide in the country has created a complete lack of trust in everything (particularly the US political system, government institutions, and media) that has prevented any real coordinated science based response to this and led to a mix of hysterical under and over reaction from both sides of politics there.
Time will tell how it all pans out and what the true mortality rate is. But in the end we will have good data to compare policy responses from places like the US and Australia. Australia has essentially confined the virus with a unified bipartisan consistent lock down across all of its states and a high level of general society testing and contact tracing (less than 100 deaths total and now almost no new cases of societal spread). Background death rates there are actually down. They can now lift the lock downs and more or less go back to normal except with the borders closed . To put in context adjusted for population this would be equivalent to the US having 1326 deaths (not 50-80k in three months). It may eventually hit closer to home for you as it spreads around the US. We had a sailor die from Covid a few boats down from us in the anchorage here in St Martin. We have also had a family member die in the Netherlands from it.
Wikipedia Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths.
But i will not discuss it with you any further, since you have a family member involved and i am terribly sorry for that. I get it it is personal. Hope the rest of your family is all right.
I would be sorry to the same extent to anyone who has lost a friend or a family member over any cause. And there are millions and millions of people dying each year of various disease. And never ever world has been on lock down. I'm just crunching the numbers i have access to and i do not get rationality numbers vs means.
That's it.
Yes and we have had 290k Covid deaths in a few months with only a fraction of the world population being exposed. Anyway; there is enough info out there for people willing to look for it. As I said look at background death rates. Something is killing more people than normal background despite the lockdowns; everyone can make their own conclusions.
Look. I am no expert and i am no president to have access to certain information. We have been constantly lied to and played by governments. And numbers... you know what numbers and their sources are. You might be right, you might be wrong. I just do not take it for granted for the same reason you mentioned in a previous comment. I do not trust these shitbags anymore, and i have more reasons than covid not to.
We had some covid cases and quarantine was declared. Then we have order of multitude more cases of covid and they are softening the quarantine. It just does not make sense to me.
I was expecting collapse of world economy for a few years already, now it seems they have a perfect excuse for that. Is the threat real? I don't know. I just think if the threat was so real, there would be piles of bodies in Bangladesh having in mind their medical care, their hygiene and density of population.
And could you swear on your health, that those 209k deaths have been caused by Covid, sincerely. The story is that at any case of fatality they make a test, if it tests covid positive it is covid related death. What if they tested for herpes? 67% of population has it.
It is being said hospitals are getting financing based on covid cased and staff is pressurized to give covid positive on fatalities. That might be complete bullshit, but i would not be surprised.
Finally. I do not know what the real case is, you do not know what the real case is either. It's just my opinion. And as any opinion it might be wrong. I get yours it just happens to contradict with mine :)
Peace bro :)
Yes it makes no sense; but I don't think the American people are culturally capable of putting up with the concept of a lockdown so to speak hence they are just releasing restrictions as that is what the people want. Plus the more extreme the lockdown the less people will comply and the less long they will put up with it. The Australian lockdown allowed people to go out to hardware stores and hairdressers etc ; but was quite strict on social gatherings and had something like a 98% compliance rate. Places where they have crazy extreme lockdowns like the dutch side of the island next to us (Sint Maarten) had a 24/7 curfew for 3 weeks literally prohibiting prople being allowed out on the streets for any reason (they even banned the sale of alcohol). It was just massive overreach and leads to street parties and protests and becomes less effective then the softer lockdown.
We will see over the next couple of months what happens in South Asia and Africa and the rest of the third world. They have a few things going for them in that tropical climates seem to reduce the spread somewhat (some data pointing to that but might not be conclusive; dense cold climate cities have definitely been hit worst). Also the third world has a much younger average age (27.6 years Bangladesh, similar in India , Africa is even crazier how young most people are with mean age of just 17.9 years in Nigeria for example). In contrast mean age is 45.4 years in Italy, 44.9 in Spain, 38.2 in the USA. Given it affects people mostly over 60; it may not have the same level of effect on developing countries with large young populations of young people and small elderly populations that have already been thinned by low life expectancy anyway.
Regardless of what is true or not for people like me who travel all year around the world and live on a sailboat; I cant see counties which have avoided outbreaks opening their boarders anytime in 2020 until their is a high speed accurate turnaround test to test travelers or a vaccine.