Hive: Sometimes A Step Back Is Needed To Move ForwardsteemCreated with Sketch.

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Many are suspicious about the possibilities of Hive. After all, are we not admitting defeat by abandoning Steem and setting up a new chain?

If one looks at it as a war, then perhaps that is the case. However, if we look at it as an evolutionary process, where lessons learned are applied, then we see things in a different light.

Charging ahead like a bull can be an effective method. That said, it often entails running into a lot of brick walls. Putting on blinders without the use of thought often ends up in catastrophe. After all, if you are not paying attention, rushing full steam ahead might mean driving right off a cliff.

Hive is the community's decision to step back, evaluate what is going on, and apply the lessons learned.


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DPOS came under fire and it survived. The community stood up to the idea of centralization long enough to resist being taken over. In spite of that, there were vulnerabilities revealed that certainly require attention.

We are embarking upon the age of decentralization. This is a process more than a destination. Things do not start out decentralized nor will everything end up that way. What we are seeing is the ability to further spread our wings and experiment. This is what the entire crypto world is doing.

There are two ways to change an existing structure. The first is to work on what is in place and try to improve upon it. This can often be the best way since there is a lot of history, success, and a track record to depend upon. However, there is also a lot of baggage.

The second way is to build something along side of what is already in place. This allows for more experimentation along with a "clean slate". Obviously, Hive falls under this category.

It is interesting to note that Hive is following the same premise of cryptocurrency and blockchain in general. When you consider it, the entire crypto space is establishing a new structure as compared to our present financial system. Instead of trying to fix what is completely broken, crypto is looking to develop something completely different. For all the merits of Steem, there are some pitfalls that, while they could be fixed, appear to be outside the ability of the existing players.

Hive is the opportunity to fix those flaws while fulfilling the original intention of the Steem tenets.

Ultimately, nothing is lost. There are going to be two chains, at least for a while. This will enhance the ability of users to post content and get rewarded. What has value in the future is to be determined. However, freedom comes from having choices which is exactly what is taking place.

Steem is not dead. This is something I see posted by many. There is a section of the community that decided to embark on their own. Now, it is up to the remaining community on Steem to decide their future. Perhaps it will end up drifting away. That decision, however, is up to those who continue to support that chain.

As we can see from a number of posts, many of the DApps are considering being able to post to both blockchains. This only makes sense since it increases the potential reach in totality.


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In my view, the potential for Hive is enormous. I always believed in Steem due to the community. Now, with the roadblock of Steemit Inc (Ned) out of the way, we should see accelerated growth and expansion of ideas. Steem suffered from an extreme bottleneck where the insecurity of one caused a need for control that hindered things. Hopefully, as we spread things out even further, the ability to innovate increases.

The crypto world is now well aware of the strength of the Steem (Hive community as of 10 AM Friday). This is something that is going to garner us more attention moving forward. Most thought we were dead, now they know that is not the case.

There is a reason why Steem-based applications were some of the highest ranked in terms of usage. The community proved how real it is and what it is capable of.

We are real people with the desire to radically alter the world. Hive is now the path that we see as a way to do that.

Welcome aboard.


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I'm new to steem so I will use both for the immediate future. It's all part of the growing pains of a new kind of internet!

I would say that the fork is a witness decision not necessarily a community one as opinions vary amongst the community 😉 had the initial decision to soft fork included the community then I would say it has been a community wide evolution but do to the fact we were excluded this fork has the appearance of another power play same as Justin’s using the “community” talk 🤔

I remain sceptical of both sides of this equation.

I think we need to understand how witnesses work better. Do witnesses as for community opinion before stopping an impending attack? No. Time and time again in my stay of this blockchain the witnesses have secured the blockchain from external attacks and our opinion haven't been sorted.

Witnesses are voted for to take actions on our behalf, we might not agree with individual witness, I certainly didn't, but the top 20 are those with the most number of votes. We might not agree with their actions but as long as the majority wins the vote they act accordingly. Members have the right not to vote for a witness, but at the end of the day, the top 20 witness are those who most members of the community have voted for to act on their behalf in securing the blockchain.

The argument that we were not contacting before doing the softfork does not hold water, as already mentioned, they are there acting on our behalf, we may not like it but that is how it works.

  • JS was contacted but ignored the witness.
  • JS had acted using his vote to interfere in Governance in his own Tron which means he can do the same with Steem.
  • His stake wasn't stolen but frozen pending when he clarifies what he plans to do with the Steem stake.

Based on JS actions now, it is totally clear that the witnesses acted in our best interest.

We are transiting to Hive, it is better whatever actions we take, we should have an open mind. Cheers mate.

Talking appearances here not facts

Facts - I called the soft fork without being inside circle and supported it, I further support this fork...

What I am raising concerns for is the language of “we” as I like many others do not appreciate being spoken for while ignored.

Absolutely. I had recognized that steem is organized similar to a ponzi scheme; the platform gains value based on future investors (users, witnesses, investors, etc).

This power struggle appears that it has more to do with securing profits than it does about securing a 'community'.

That is the center around the dynamic yes, question remains if content qualifies as adding value or not in terms of investing 😅

Securing our futures includes theirs but it is human nature to fight blindly for the things we believe in so we can at least assume majority have good intentions even if selfish.

Muito bom

we want more infos about it
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Don't you mean rehive?

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We'll see what happens but BOI is really excited!

Steem is my home for 2 years and now I am leaving not because it's old or dull but because of the bad neighborhood.

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Hi @taskmaster4450 I've had an idea to move our content over to hive.io with SEO in mind. Basically we'll replace our content on steemit with "content moved to hive.io/@username by original author" which will begin to de-rank steemit and strengthen hive. Check out my idea at https://steemit.com/hive/@gringo211985/seo-solution-for-hive-io-let-s-take-our-content-with-us and if possible I hope someone can create a script to do this as some people have 1000's of posts.