Wake up and stop comparing on Hive

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If the token value of HIVE hit 10 dollars, would you be happy, or pissed off that my account would be worth 1.3 million dollars?

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My sick daughter fell asleep on the floor today

I grew up in a family with three older brothers and our parents rarely had junk food in the house, which is probably why we all carry a sweet tooth. It is also why at that time I would compare what I had on my plate to what they had on theirs - and as a child, I never factored in that they were larger than me - I would just look at the portions and think, that's not fair.

Eyes on your own plate.

my mother

When it comes to things we want, if someone has more than us, we have the tendency to be envious in some way and believe that we are entitled to more ourselves. We do not consider the complex makeup of what led to the result, we consider only what comes to mind, putting extra weighting on the factors where we are equal or better, discounting or completely ignoring where we might be lacking. We do not consider the history or track record, we do not look at constitution or competence, we only feed our opinion based on what we feel in the moment, the desire - and think we deserve better. It doesn't matter how much we have, we just want more than others.

If HIVE hit 10 dollars, there will be a few accounts on here that are worth north of 50 million dollars and we could ask the question, does anyone deserve so much? Probably not. But that is the way this and every other industry works when there is an early investment into a business that becomes mainstream. Has Zuckerberg really earned his 80 billion dollar wealth over the last 15 years? He is not the only billionaire made out of Facebook, and there are hundreds of millionaires from the same business, plus many more from associated business that have leveraged it.

It is interesting to consider that while everyone is hoping that perhaps in their wildest dreams Hive will be able to compete at some level with the likes of Facebook and Twitter, at the same time it seems many people expect it to be done without anyone getting rich in the process - especially, astronomically rich.

Yet, for Hive to do what many are hoping it will do by continually developing applications and experiences like games that push into the internet to increasingly capture market share, people will have to get wealthy along the way, and this is a great thing. The higher the price goes and the more "wealthy" there are, the greater the potential to capture even more of the markets as some percentage of those people will use their funds to build further into the ecosystem and diversify use base. Many will build their businesses that will become gateways into Hive.

This is the decentralization of the blockchain that is needed also, not just the distribution of the token. It has to be attractive for people to build their lives upon and that means it has to stabilize so it provides a foundation for them they can trust. The decentralization of the token is one aspect of this, the development of a wide range of business owners and user base the other.

Anyone can build a shop, but putting it in the middle of a desert where there are no customers is risky. However, once there is the infrastructure that supports citizens, people start to move and settle down and then, demand goods and services from all kinds of businesses. The infrastructure being in place first means that the barrier to entry to settle and make a home is lower. At the moment, Hive is in a transition phase from the "wild frontier" to a border town - where laws are tenuous at best, but lawlessness runs rampant. It is the wild west, but it is rapidly changing, with those who live as gunslingers and bandits, being replaced by citizens and owners who are looking to build a life.

In this transition period, we are working out who we are, but that doesn't mean we are all going to be on the same path. The beauty of Hive is that it is open for anyone to take or build a path, but the success of the individual is going to vary depending on the path taken and the person themselves. What this means is that even at this stage, the expansion of Hive is happening through the diversification of user behavior and while some will be more successful than others, all will benefit from those who are able to expand the network in various ways.

The expansion of the network is not just app building and onboarding, it is also through the building of content and relationships that aid the application and onboarding - the content that keeps people interested, the engagement that keeps people in the discussions and, the user base that is actively making Hive the kind of place that people love to be.

Now, you might say that Hive isn't a place that people love to be and that they are only here for the money and let's say you are right but consider, if people love the money only, people are going to love it a fuckload when Hive is 10 dollars and the pool for the next year is distributing 260 million dollars worth of value to hundreds of thousands and likely millions of accounts. With a development fund to build with and a host of engaged and experienced developers with value behind them - this place would thrive.

You might say it didn't back at the ATH in 2017 - but that was a different userbase and most of the active members here now, weren't on Hive at that point - but have worked from that point toward the future. Timing matter.

But, no matter how great the result and how well people do, many people aren't going to be happy because they are going to compare their result to that of others. No matter how much better their lives are, they will be discontent with what they have - because it is less than what someone else has - and most will never reflect on why there is the difference.

In my experience, small differences matter a great deal and when it comes to Hive, I back my beliefs with my resources. People look at the current value, I look toward the future value, because that is where I am working for it to be. The hours and dollars of investment now have a future value and while someone might spend an hour making a post and writing some comments per day, I might spend 8-10. If that future value doesn't eventuate, the difference in current value isn't going to be that large and I would have "wasted my time" in comparison.

For a simple example, If for a year a person puts in 1 hour a day and earns 1000 HIVE and another puts in 8 hours a day for 4000 HIVE - HIVE value at a dollar makes the gap only 2000 dollars - one has earned 2.70 an hour, the other who worked 8x as much earned 1.30 an hour. Not great. However, HIVE at 10 dollars would mean that the first earned 27 dollars an hour, the other 13 dollars an hour, but the "real world" is that one earned 10,000 and the other 40,000 for a 30,000 dollar difference. That is significant over the space of a single year.

Some people say things like,

"I don't get out of bed for anything less than ____"

...but, how much time do they spend in bed?

The other thing they don't factor in is while they are in bed because someone won't pay them enough, others are out there working for less, developing skills, building relationships, making friends and finding that there are far more opportunities in activity, than in sleep.

Personally, I hope to see many thousands of Hive users who are rich from their time spent here, doing what they enjoy.

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The thing I sometimes find a little puzzling is the way some people act like they work for Hive, or are somehow under contract with Hive to get paid here.

We weren't "promised" ANYthing, here. Although some people are prolific publishers and spend most of their hours here, this is still just an opportunity, not a "job." And yet? Many bellyache about things, like they feel they deserve a "pay raise." Maybe they should go flip burgers, or something else that has a promised income stream!

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Maybe they should go flip burgers, or something else that has a promised income stream!

I was just talking to my wife (in HR) on whether she would hire me as a warehouse worker. It is enough to cover our mortgage and food.

She said, so you want a third job?

People seem to want a salary on Hive, but aren't willing to do the work. Work as I see it is unpaid, but could be, yet could also be a hobby only. A job comes with some security of a salary, but the work is predefined.

I don't want to be filthy rich, but I wouldn't mind getting a little dirty.

I didn't realize that the market peaked on Jan. 3, 2018. That's the day I started here, and the day I bought my first steem. I never used the delegation from a new account at all.

I'm here for the writing (and reading) and the people. The money is way secondary. I think the place has a chance to be something really special and for you to be a millionaire. I hope we're both right.

I don't want to be filthy rich, but I wouldn't mind getting a little dirty.

I have always found it interesting that there is an association that rich is bad. Don't get me wrong, the world is a mess economically, but being rich doesn't automatically make the person who is rich some kind of criminal.

I didn't realize that the market peaked on Jan. 3, 2018. That's the day I started here, and the day I bought my first steem.

That is cool! What brought you to Steem oringinally?

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Poor little sick girl!

Though I’ve had mine fall asleep on the floor just randomly 🤣

It was funny. She was just talking to me, went into the next room and was quiet a couple minutes - and was out.

The price action may look stagnant now. I've seen people, some I would've thought were experienced, express disappointment at how the price has moved this week with the Bitcoin breakout.

I vividly remember October 2017. The price of STEEM had done nothing but fall step after another since the June top. It bottomed around 80 cents after forming a local top of a bit over $2 early in the summer. Come November, SBD gets infected with the rage virus and shoots up to $14. STEEM follows suit in December and tops out at $8.57 on January 3 2018. The long bear market begins but STEEM only dives under about 80 cents after the November 2018 Bitcoin crash. It's well over a dollar for the whole summer. Even SBD persists way above $1 for until the summer.

Yep, people focus on that high day, January 3rd 2018, not the lead in (rapid) or withdrawal which took much more time. A lot of people benefited, some won't have a second chance as they never got back in.

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If the token value of HIVE hit 10 dollars, would you be happy, or pissed off that my account would be worth 1.3 million dollars?

Don’t throw me in that briar patch.

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I think if it happens, there will be a lot of looking at other people's plates from some sections of the audience.

Maybe I'm just a weird but I wanna see everyone win on Hive.

So I'd for one celebrate your 1.3 million dollar account and the 50 million dollar accounts!

lol

Here's hoping for a big bull run!! 😀

It'd be bloody awesome to see massive accounts all over the place, as well as all the smaller accounts adding significant vote values :)

Absolutely. I love it, seeing people really believe and invest their time and energy into this community. Exciting stuff ahead!

It's been a while since you wrote one of these 'let's imagine Hive is worth $10 posts' - one of my favourite themes of yours!

Eyes on yer own plate, I agree!

I'd be quite happy if your account grew to be worth $1.3 million - thinking about it, it doesn't sound like a huge amount of millionnaires that would be created, not in the grand scheme of things!

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Lot's of shitcoins spawned millionaires during the end of the last hype cycle.

No, not that many millionaires, until you consider where many people might be from. A million in Finland isn't really that much, 50,000 in India or Thailand is huge. At 10, every dolphin is worth 50K+

I like writing these posts too and they help me focus on why I do as I do. The money is one thing, but imagine having all of those people around the world and what it might mean at a local level. Imagine what they could build if they had some funding.

True! 50K is life changing even for most people in the West - it's certainly sufficient to allow you to take some time out, retrain, set up a business. !

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If the token value of HIVE hit 10 dollars, would you be happy, or pissed off that my account would be worth 1.3 million dollars?

Extremely happy, as I'd be a $ millionaire too :D

We could start a club.

Indeed, comparing rarely (never?) is any good (psychologically speaking). Great epiphany :)

Size matters, to the ones who make the comparison ;)

Ahhh, yes @tarazkp ...

When it comes to things we want, if someone has more than us, we have the tendency to be envious in some way and believe that we are entitled to more ourselves. We do not consider the complex makeup of what led to the result, we consider only what comes to mind, putting extra weighting on the factors where we are equal or better, discounting or completely ignoring where we might be lacking.

... human nature in all its uhhh ... "glory" ... Isn't it wonderful?

The "antidote?" Being grateful for what we have and complimentary of others. Envy is toxic and destructive ...

Nice post emphasizing the importance of hard work. And earning what we deem to be in our best interest, rather than simply "settle" for believing we are entitled to it.

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It is wonderful! To observe at least :)

Yes, gratitude closes a lot of the psychological weaknesses for sure.

Thanks for the curation efforts! :)

Very broadly speaking, our economy is like a pie. And while it can be argued that it is pretty unfairly distributed (i mean how much cake can Jeff Bezos eat?), the pie has grown in size over the past decades. So while some might get a smaller piece, and others gets a larger one, they each get a chunk of a growing pie.

I think that we often forget that if people from a hundred years ago were to look at us today, they would think we were all wealthy aristocrats. Most of us has one flat screen per room, at least a few different electronic devices (counting a phone, a tablet, a laptop, a desktop etc.), and materialistically, we are all pretty well off, at least in the western world.

But because our neighbour just got a new, slightly larger flat screen, we just can't seem to be content. We always have to have more.

Most of us should probably have a larger focus on mental wealth, rather than material, and i am not sure how the monetary system of hive influences that.

This is the case for crypto especially, as the pie is not based solely in the physical realm and the digital space is infinite.

Most of us should probably have a larger focus on mental wealth, rather than material, and i am not sure how the monetary system of hive influences that.

It depends on the person. Like it or not, money is a part of our life, but most of us have an unhealthy relationship with it. A lot of this is caused by a lack of transparency and understanding, so seeing and participating in an economy that has far more transparency and hands on practice, can help develop the understanding that breaks the negatives of personal finance and starts to use it as a tool in a far more healthy manner. It is a long road.

The greatest source of unhappiness is when we always compare with others instead of comparing ourselves with what we were yesterday. There will always be someone smarter,richer, wiser, popular. The key to true evolution is to be focused on our own progress. To put it simply it is indeed about looking at your own damn bowl.

I guess that for some folks looking at what others do acts like a distraction or an excuse.

Sleep hours don't get paid. Sleeping more than its necessary is just slacking. Again we come back to basics of self discipline. Looking at our own bowls and keep it going.

There will always be someone smarter,richer, wiser, popular.

I think the internet is geared to finding and promoting these people who are at the extremes, and making the average feel inadequate. There is someone at every positive and negative extreme that can be leveraged as a control mechanism of the average person.

A sort of manipulation. It works. Since when being yourself is just average? Since being extremely photoshoped is the new normal. Women and men see all of these images of success and think that if they adhere they will be more accepted. All sorts of other "standards" of normality appear daily. We should embrace our uniqueness. Because each and every one of us is "averagely" unique.

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Needs more pictures.

does anyone deserve so much?

What does deserve mean??? Whenever someone starts talking about how much money someones deserves solely based on them having it, i go crazy.

There will never be thousands of people getting rich off of Hive. Not even hundreds. Just getting your name recognized is a gruesome ordeal. Convincing others that you contribute is another obstacle to get over.
Those that established themselves already will reap the rewards and anyone that wants in on the action will need to go through the same process all of us did to crack absolute obscurity... after the next bull run.

Deserve means nothing - it is a human concept that the universe cares nothing for.

Not even hundreds

There are already hundreds - depending on where they live.

Just getting your name recognized is a gruesome ordeal. Convincing others that you contribute is another obstacle to get over.

Doing what you want is easy - if you are lucky, it is what other people want you to do too. Doing what you want and getting what you want from it are two different things.

Those that established themselves already will reap the rewards and anyone that wants in on the action will need to go through the same process all of us did to crack absolute obscurity... after the next bull run.

Early adopter advantage - but also what is necessary for any industry to survive to benefit others.

There are already hundreds - depending on where they live.

Well, i meant in the short term and "rich" does indeed have levels to it.
Hundreds will "Make good money" would i think be closer to reality then "rich".

Early adopter advantage - but also what is necessary for any industry to survive to benefit others.

If HIVE does survive for a long time (which i think it will) at least the new guys will have a proven model of how to do well here by looking at creators like yourself maybe, that did well.

You only “cracked obscurity” by being a whiny fucking bitch and pretending to be your own wife.

Fucked up bitch.

it seems many people expect it to be done without anyone getting rich in the process - especially, astronomically rich.

These are actually the same people who are living in a neighborhood for a long time and when one day when the neighborhood starts bustling with new people and institutions, they try to act as if they owned everything. People do not treat them any special just because the were there early.

In hive's case, like any other blown up sectors, there will be newcomers with big money who will get more out of the platform (in terms of monetary value) than many old users could ever achieve.

People like to say something is theirs when it is valuable to do so - not when it isn't.

We won the game/ they lost the game - while speaking about the same team.

In hive's case, like any other blown up sectors, there will be newcomers with big money who will get more out of the platform (in terms of monetary value) than many old users could ever achieve.

Yes, and there will be people who build from nothing and achieve results they couldn't get anywhere else.

Indeed, and some things cannot truly be measured by their moneytary value. Putting a price on something you care about can be dangerous just well. As soon as one puts a price tag on the effort they put, they'll start to feel cheated, underappreciated.

Hive, as was Steem, is just a fun social experiment for me.
Making tons of money was never my goal, but $10, that could be exciting.

It should be fun - isn't working toward a better future fun? Not necessarily easy though :)

La moraleja es: Agradecer y ser feliz con lo que uno tiene y nunca dejes de luchar por lo que quieres.

Just do your best :)

De eso se trata. Un abrazo!

It would be nice to be rich from Hive, and who knows one day it may happen, if not I have had a lot of fun. I do not stress over oops I forgot to post anything, because I am on Hive at least two or three times a day, reading, looking, and enjoying commenting. I suppose I could just as well spend my time on Twitter, or Youtube or face book, but I found those places to be a little lacking in original thought, original photography, and original writing. In other words I found them to be somewhat boring.

I know a lot of people keep talking about lack of content, yeah some days are a bit thin, but I have always found stuff that interest me, and like nonameslefttouse was good at pointing out, I get paid to consume if I vote which I do. On those other sites I get garbage from them no money.

I also stand the chance of striking it rich if I keep posting and adding a little something every now and then. The marketing really needs to be come to Hive and be paid to vote and like and read content, not come to hive make crap content hope to get paid.

There are a ton of great content producers, a few consumers, but we are increasing in numbers. Hive could be the ultimate consumer location if people knew about it and were introduced to it as a consumer not a maker or taker.

I suppose I could just as well spend my time on Twitter, or Youtube or face book, but I found those places to be a little lacking in original thought, original photography, and original writing.

I think this might be the attraction of those platforms for many people - it is all so familiar - no challenge.

and like nonameslefttouse was good at pointing out, I get paid to consume if I vote which I do.

Hopefully, he comes back soon :)'

not come to hive make crap content hope to get paid.

Yep- post what you want, but the paid part is an exception.

i would probably be pissed off that i did not make the option to be able to invest more :D 80.000 is like 8 years of really good paycheck here, but it is hardly a Tesla :)

But that price would probably mean the opportunity to earn more.

I would most probably be happy for all of us that survived here for this last few years.

80.000 is like 8 years of really good paycheck here, but it is hardly a Tesla :)

I think that even with 1.4M, I would be questioning spending any of it on a car :D I would like a Tesla though.....

But that price would probably mean the opportunity to earn more.

Yep. In a crazy hypothetical world where HIVE stayed at 5 dollars, your curation per year would be around 5-6000 dollars worth a year with 8000 HP

If the token value of HIVE hit 10 dollars, would you be happy, or pissed off that my account would be worth 1.3 million dollars?

A cheers in advance... 😎🥂⭐️

:D

One day....one day...

Sorry for your sick child, I hope she get's well soon. My mom is seriously sick too, battling with life and death. I pray God heal her too.

You really talk alot on this post and I must say I enjoyed every bit of it. The fact still stands that everybody wants to be rich on hive, but the big question is that are you working on that path? Riches doesn't comes on a platter of gold, your work, determination, focus, engagement and all will pays the price.

While waiting for the price to hit $10, you should prepared yourself along that path.

Engage, engage, engage, so we wont miss out.

My mom is seriously sick too, battling with life and death.

Hopefully things work out. My dad passed away about a month ago - age and illness suck

While waiting for the price to hit $10, you should prepared yourself along that path.

Waiting doesn't deliver much, most of the time - activity opens up the opportunity.

Sorry for the loss sir, so painful to lost someone or see a love one battling with health issue.

At this point in time, do you know we can achieve things now than await when it hit $10. We dont necessary needs to await, we already have the $10 looking at us. Keep on engaging and making good friends, things will work out well. Some person are just bothered about the price, not knowing that things will fall in place at the right time. Just keep doing your best and when the $10 time comes, it will be an additional blessing.

The key point here is all you earn besides money as you mention.
You earn knowledge, relationships, and thus future opportunities. If you only do something for the present reward you get you are never going to increase your value potential.

The key point here is all you earn besides money as you mention.

In Finland where the social security is good, a lot of people stay home after losing a job for 2 years living off the government (tax payers) because getting a crappier job isn't worth it. However, this is a technical country and two years without being in a field, making connections and getting opportunities is a long time. A lot of the long term unemployed I met are so because "it doesn't make sense to work a job and not earn much more than what can be got for free" - the problem is, after those two years - what is "got for free" is a lot less.

Time is a very important factor that is missing in equation.
I do not know whether in future $10 have any value or not.

10 dollars might not, but 10 Hive might, or 0.001 BTC... Time is always a factor when it comes to currencies, but currencies aren't disappearing for a while.

I would not mind your account being 1.3 million. That would mean mine is 200k.

But I have not spent the amount of time writing as you have nor with the same talent.
The only one who might grumble is someone who spends 8 hours a day writing high-quality posts and does not get any traction but there are none out there who do. all the rest should shut up :-)

200K worth your time so far?

The only one who might grumble is someone who spends 8 hours a day writing high-quality posts and does not get any traction but there are none out there who do

Very few at least who do and don't get traction. Most who have been in some consistency will have got somewhere.

Thanks for sharing this beautiful post. It'll be wonderful to see Hive at $10 even if it makes billionaires out of early investors. Let those who envy put their skin into the game and take the risk of their life instead of complaining.

Yep and if there are billionaires, there would be many millionaires and thousands of people worth hundreds of thousands :)

That's correct. And it's why I keep stocking up for the days ahead. Cheers!

You truly hit the nail on the head my friend @tarazkp

I think people should see other but do more the be like them ...

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