Do you want me to QUIT ?

in LeoFinance7 months ago

Sometimes you get a surprise out of a clear skies.

The least I ever was expecting was that I may insult somebody here on LeoFinance by doing my upvotes.

Today I was approached on Discord by one Leofinance author (sure I will not disclose his name), with a short message:

I just hate the fact, that you upvote my posts with .66% upvote. You should remove me from your automated upvote list...

Yes, there is no secret, I still sometimes use autovoting bot. Not much, but I do sometimes.
Let me make clear my reasons.

I am a "maximalist type" person.
And I deeply believe, that one of the worst things I can do to my LEO investment - is to leave voting power idling at 100%. Ever. Even for a few minutes. I also try to keep my voting power most of the time in the range 85-98%, to push the maximum.
Because I am not sure, if I will be able to get back to my manual curation every morning, always in time, I have set autovoter.

Which has several strict rules:

  • It kicks IN only once my voting power exceeds 99%. Usually in goes active in the early mornings, 4-5 AM
  • It puts small <1% upvotes on those posts, who has been upvoted by few respectable curators ( as a trail of @taskmaster4450, @khaleelkazi, @leofinance, @rollandthomas, @themightyvolcano, @trumpman, etc)
  • the upvotes are done on the yet my not voted older posts, which are 4 days old, or older (because I don't want to make any influence on a fresh posts, which I have not even read personally)
  • putting many small upvotes on a larger qty of posts helps to improve the LEO distribution, right?

Being small in power (0.66% or 0.99% ), it makes sure that whenever I come back to my PC for manual work, it makes sure I see my voting power in the range of 99%-100%. It never drops below 98.5%. Yet it never goes in to idling either, in to dormant state.
I could noway to imagine this may hurt somebody.

Yet I got to read:

...it look like insult to me that a biggest LEO stakeholder is not even reading me and just putting some random votes to me, when whole LEO talks about engagement.

Did I ever obligated myself that I will be doing this manual work every day, non-stop, on every possible account, or/and at a certain minimal voting levels?

Naturally, we came to a quick solution, after this his proposal:

If you do not like my content, leave it alone, but no need to put it in automated voting list for 4th day....

The autovoter has a section [ignore these accounts]. It took me few seconds to enter one more account in this section. 😃

I never saw you in any of my blog and yet you upvote me regularly at day 4.

Yes, indeed, I reviewed this gentleman's other posts, and it was clear, that personally I have NONE or very little understanding of the subjects he is usually covering. So it was quite natural for me to skip them.
At the end of the day - it is even physically IMPOSSIBLE to read every single post on LeoFinance, every day. The flow of new posts is growing day after day.

All in all, this small incident disturbed my mind quite a bit.

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I keep guessing - how many more people may be here, Who are possibly insulted with my small 0.36 LEO upvotes?
How I would know this?

In case you feel so - please reach in any suitable way for you.
(Discord, Telegram, Twitter, etc - I am everywhere with the same nick name onealfa)
Please let me know. It is very easy to stop these upvotes.
And to leave those 0.36 LEO to someone who will be happy to get.

@onealfa

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 7 months ago 

People are amazing sometimes. I had someone complain last week because I was not commenting on his posts every time I left a 100% upvote. He said a courteous person would always comment, upvote, and reblog — all three. So. I have stopped upvoting his posts, altogether. Ya can't make everyone happy, for sure. 🤦‍♀

Well can you blame him? Who doesn't like a good threesome?!?!?!?!

Lol, that's the most stupid that I've heard so far. Looks like some people have high expectations. They think one can hang out on here 24/7. Unbelievable! You did the right thing.

We have a saying in Hungarian, who can't appreciate little things, doesn't deserve big things. Some need to learn the hard way.

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Wow, that's a great saying. I will make myself to always remember that. korsunom..

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@thekittygirl, that is freaking hilarious. I haven't gotten any of these comments from people, I think they know better than to rile up the cat! Hahah

Great to see you on leo (though I know you have been here a while) it just makes me happy to see more and more of my fellow steem/hive people active over here.

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Ha ha ha, all three !? 😃😃😃😂🤣 Fantasticum !
And I like your decision. Very logic in such situation.

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LOL

Thanks for the laugh.

I am happy to receive upvotes and although I have been here three years I still remember writing posts with no upvotes, notta, zilch, zero.

#So you have my thanks, for the upvote you give me!

Curation and upvoteing is a labor of love at times, but a labor at all tinmes.

I use an autobot to make it easier and to make sure I support all the good authors here.
Thansk again for the laugh and all the upvotes.

I will take your 0.36 LEO upvotes anytime senpai! That's like 3.6 $ (at least!) in a year from now!

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I accept ALL upvotes

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Have an upvote! (lol, I just had to do it...)

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Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth?

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Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth?

I wasn't aware that this proverb is used in English as well. In German it rhymes: "einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul".

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my 100% lol it’s prob like the trail following you. Not trails actually suck I feel anything I write is negated

I must confess that I never thought to hear someone complaining for upvotes regardless of their power. If someone did this I think it is not its place here, we are a community and we work together from 0.00% to 100%. So such frustrated people should stay on the sideline or fine other communities where they get 100% for nonsense posts.

I don't know who that person was, but don't feel bad a second for him as he doesn't deserve even one second of attention if his mind is not right.

In rest, I pretty like your diversity of upvotes and the way you are spawning to the community which simply shows that you are trying to grow and promote community members as well. You are a pillar here, I feel you are righteous and encourage you to continue on this line!

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other communities where they get 100% for nonsense posts.

Or .0 for 100% lol my baby votes are worth nothing... never had anyone complain about it... I had noticed some people voting less then 100% weird numbers usually 1% or 6% and I asked someone about that cause I didn't know that later I will be able to adjust my voting power when my votes are worth more... Not to mention, and please correct me if I am wrong but the more someone holds the more their vote is worth?

such frustrated people should stay on the sideline or fine other communities where they get 100% for nonsense posts.

No worries, such people are going to stay on the sideline as they are sidelining themselves with their own actions.

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Hahaha, wow..

I guess that explains the votes I get as well. I wasn't really sure about it, so thanks for the explanation.

Honestly speaking, I appreciate each upvote I get. It doesn't matter what it's worth or at what percentage it is. I appreciate every single upvote I get. Also, the fact that your small 0.66% votes are worth something is awesome.

0.36 LEO is still 0.36 LEO and all votes adds up. 0.36 today, 0.36 x 5 tomorrow. - What do I know..?

We are still being rewarded, regardless if it's due to manual- or auto-votes.

Each time you have someone complaining about those votes, send the votes to me instead...

  • I won't complain. ;)

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I guess that explains the votes I get as well.

I got some as well this morning but have never thought about complaining or feeling bad because I didn't get more. See where greed leads people?

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Honestly speaking, I appreciate each upvote I get. It doesn't matter what it's worth or at what percentage it is. I appreciate every single upvote I get.

Yes no kidding. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. How about .36 over the course of a year. That adds up to some serious LEO.

Ironic since most people on Hive complain about NOT getting votes.

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Ironic since most people on Hive complain about NOT getting votes.

Votes that 'makes a significant difference'..

He wouldn't complain if the votes where 16% or 66%.

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I always was of the belief they all add up. In fact, when it comes to everything on Hive, it all adds up. That is why the ones that are most active tend to have their accounts grow a great deal over time.

It is not usually an overnight process but they do get there. We see the posts detailing the progress on a regular basis. It is fun to watch.

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It's actually rather sad that everyone don't seem to understand that..

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I would never complain about receiving any upvote... whether or not there is an award that tags along... Something is better than nothing and your set-up makes sense.

My name is @josediccus and I'm a leofinance author that blogs about the Nigerian economic, advertising, public relations and real time daily life finance. I'll gladly accept an percentage of vote you give, because a vote is better than no votes at all and for all the votes you've given me in the past I say thanks a lot.
You chose to use your stake in the way you think it's fair so it's only logical and that person should understand that

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Lol, I have a déjà vu feeling as it's happened to me as well. I've been a curator for a front-end and was curating 40+ posts/day, plus my curation. I was voting 1% on these posts as the bot followed my vote and that was what it mattered. There was a guy with the same message. I asked him if he wants to get on the ignore list forever as I can do that.

Don't quit using this technique for this individual. Ad you said, there's room for one more name to skip and use that option.

What's happened to being grateful? These tantrums are good as it clarifies who to vote or who not to vote. Greediness has a price.

By the way, this is happening from time to time to everyone, I know it's happened to Marky as well, because someone wanted bigger votes and getting Marky's upvote has excluded the person from being curated.

As I said, don't change, just do what you do! I appreciate every vote I get and I got some 0.66% upvotes this morning, quite a few and I'm happy 🙂

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I wish to read someone complain
for your fat upvote. Nah! will never happen
This is reality at its best.

!BEER

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The last thing I was expecting was to see this type of attitude...

Really now? You didn't even have to explain yourself if you ask me or your voting patterns or anything.

I for instance don't have the time the last 2 weeks to write even a single post. Yet I do find the time to drop a few comment here and there while I curate late at night before I go to sleep.

People start having illusions that just because you are the largest stakeholder you 'll have to curate as if it's a full time job...

I mentioned quite a few times that engagement is everything and don't fake it with the hope that I, or taskmaster or onealfa will read each and every one of the comments under hundreds of posts every day. So I took a step back to see if everyone will keep on doing what they were doing 15 days ago...

See? Now I explain myself...dammit.

Have a good one mate

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Usually people are happy to get positive votes, but some people, like you say, they hate positive voices, because of what, because the votes you give are small, I think that person is not grateful, they have received good grades. Good ,, Lol for that person ..😂

Keep in the blessings for you sir @onealfa, I hope you are always healthy ..

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You should always do whatever you feel comfortable with your stake. It's your money and you don't need to explain.

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Yes, this is exactly what I do here. And I do DOWNVOTES too !
Which (I noticed) very few here been doing so far. (Except Marky)
What is interesting , it seems last days I'm finding much less junk-posts, containing nothing to do with LF objects, compared to what I was finding 3-4 weeks ago.
No proof, only my guess, but maybe reward-pool milkers are very good in detecting "dangerous places" 😃

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If I'm going to insult someone, I can think of quite a few better ways than handing them money.

:)

😃🤣😂

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I don't know if the option is available but if huge accounts can delegate their LP to active curators that would help spread the love. It is too much if a burden holding such power as the community grows in size. I don't even check who upvotes my content. I write and hope to get lucky.

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It is too much if a burden holding such power as the community grows in size.

Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading here. Agree to disagree. It's a burden only if you are incompetent and have no clue what to do with it, but it's not the case here.

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What can't you believe? Isn't it the same issue we are having on hive? Most large stakeholders end up automating because their ability to curate is limited. If we had a 500k active users churning out multiple posts a day, do you think anyone would be able to track it, to find the best of the best? Do you think allocating the reward pool would be an easy task? We are less than 20k active users and we're struggling.

Curation is serious business. The toughest job. Without a functioning middle class, whales are limited.

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Curation is serious business. The toughest job.

It's funny coming from you, who's never had to deal with this "toughest job".

Putting aside generalization (no need for that here) @onealfa is more than capable of doing the curating job, trust me.

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It's funny coming from you, who's never had to deal with this "toughest job".

I consider this to be a stupid and misleading statement. First of all, I have worked as a curator for a diy community. So I understand the nitty-gritty of curating. Secondly, everyone is a curator as long as you have lp or hp. You job as stakeholder is to aid distribution by way of curating. So saying I have never had to deal with this task is blatantly stupid.

Putting aside generalization

My initial statement was a general one. Never did I fault his ability to curate. It's his LP and he can do as her sees fit. No one is entitled to his upvotes

FYI

Did I ever obligated myself that I will be doing this manual work every day, non-stop, on every possible account, or/and at a certain minimal voting levels

This was the part of his article I was addressing. I simply opined that delegating was a better option than automation and inquired if such a feature was available on leofinance. Never did I attack the man, so don't know what youre gunning for here

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You're missing the whole point.

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Pfff
I wouldn't even bother with this. You know, I have only about 0.7 LEO from auto votes on my posts, probably even less, and don't get insulted at all. I know some are getting tens of LEOs in minutes, but we're different. We have different experiences and reputations and there's no given on the platform. You have to start somewhere after all. Choose someone else for the autovotes and that's. I'm not a fan of anything auto, but don't fight against it either. It's people's funds, let them do whatever they feel like.
Have a great Sunday!

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I have no any specific names or targets for my autovote bot. If just follows votes of trusted, respected curators ( as said in my OP), I fully rely on them, that by doing such trail follow, my risk to vote a complete junk post is close to minimum.

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I think it's all to do with fear of your notorious sequence of sixes and all the posts depicting the 'beast' lol. Personally, I think it's great having a big stakeholder like you doing what you do here. It would be easy to shitpost x 10 and upvote self x 10 @ 100%.......it's nice to see the community-mindedness coming from your account.

Sounds like the gentleman who communicated with you may be a bit lost and confused; oversensitive in some counter-productive manner. The comments on this post are a chastisement of sorts and I'm sure he'll be reading them.

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Ahh gosh i have seen so much in this platform!

People commenting "upvote for upvote", "vote me kind sir" doing that all day, copy/pasting these phrases without reading any posts just to earn some upvotes
People that only autovoting their posts
People that never made a single comment

Now this is the first time i am seeing someone complaining about getting an upvote! Even if it hurts your feelings to get a 0,66% upvote (0,36leo) that many don't even have as a 100% upvote in here, just text and ask what's going on, don't start attacking out of anywhere

With great stake comes great responsibilities and great dumbasses :P

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This was a fun read :)
Btw love your settings on the autovotes!

Pick meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! Well my main account @vlemon at least.

Some people are never happy. Just let it go ;)

Cheers and have a great weekend !

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you are a good man. keep up the good work. @onealfa

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I have only posted a couple of times but I'm grateful for votes of any size and I think that is a more rational way to be

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Lol. I actually find this quite funny. I understand about not wasting votes by having VP idling at 100 percent as what a waste. You will be surprised how many do and how much is being lost by not being pro active. I used to say going to bed with high VP was like climbing into bed with your socks on and still think that way and will rather use excess VP on a quick splurge as it recharges whilst sleeping.

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Please don’t give me money never caught on as a song lyric.

Go figure.

Hahaha some people are really funny.

Your stake, your choice. Do what you want to do with it 🦁

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It's called neutral selection, makes our job easier knowing not to waste our vote on these people.

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Ron White comes to mind right about now

It is good to see this post to get a better understanding of what you are doing. I am not saying that from the perspective you came from but, rather, as a sharing of different approaches we all take.

The use of autovoters makes complete sense. It is something that I had not considered in those terms. Certainly sitting with 100% voting power is a waste for all involved.

Did I ever obligated myself that I will be doing this manual work every day, non-stop, on every possible account, or/and at a certain minimal voting levels?

Maybe you did, maybe you didn't...but that is up to you. And if you want to change your mind, that is also up to you.

Finally, to me, this person was being a total jerk. Being insulted about a vote instead of being grateful for it is completely asinine. It doesn't matter what the vote value is, the fact that you put the person on the list shows something.

I guess it ultimately shows the character of the individual.

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I guess it ultimately shows the character of the individual.

You're right, I totally agree with you and this is how we know who not to support. Greediness is already showing, this is a natural selection and pretty soon some names will not get support for this reason.

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Yes. We still live in a mindset that is overrun by scarcity. It will take time to break that.

When people realize that getting a few LEO each day can amount to a big difference in their lives, then they will have a different approach.

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Hey onealfa,

allow me to provide an easy and efficient solution.

I just hate the fact, that you upvote my posts with .66% upvote. You should remove me from your automated upvote list...

Take the name from this guy and replace it by @st8z. I can vouche for st8z, he is a good dude and I am sure he won't complain about any upvote. (Unless you make sure you don't vote at 66.6% because I don't like this 666... (you know devil and this stuff)

I hope you appreaciate my help. If you discover any problem like this in the near future -> Feel free to contact me. I will find a solution

**Disclaimer: Don't take this comment to serious. It could contain traces of sarcasm and irony. All spelling mistakes are consciously and intentionally integrated to ensure a permanent sharpening of the reader's eyes.**

P.S. Why I can't use in line-styling like [p style="font-size:1px"]? Isn't this html formatting working in here?

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wow send over that leo to me then sheesh!

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Reading this is funny but then I say we are human and as such, we should always expect anything because we are different with a different way of reasoning.

The is someone stake we are talking about here and not his, so whatever you choose to do with it or whatever percentage it gives shouldn't anger him. I guess he hasn't been one who struggled for an upvote before so he thinks he is entitled to a 100% upvote from the curators.

If he is so good, he should go and stake and use it as curation and see how many percent he will give. For me, I really do not have the time to go about looking for whoever and what percentage a person gives to me for my content and I am satisfied as long as I am upvoted at least better than NO upvote and also as long as I am not downvoted.

No one is entitled to any curators upvote but for me, I think they come because of the trust the curators have for our quality content. So, just stop giving because he doesn't need it, instead give it out to those who are in need of it.
There is no big deal there anyway.

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I have a solution that will make evrybody happy...
Everytime you put someone on the ignore list, add those 0.66% vote to the vote you use to upvote my posts. I will not complain, I swear 😉😂

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I wish I could. The bot I'm using is not so much flexible.
But I made a change already, to avoid those six's (probably some people are much more superstitious than me).
So those random votes in the future will not stay at 0.66, but will spread out random between 0.5-1.5%, approximately.
It will take effect after 3-4 days, as soon as the current "pending list" is worked out.

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Who doesn’t want a 0.36LEO upvote? Sometimes people are very quick to want more. I am grateful to see a little vote from you from time to time. Great way to spread the LEO love to more users posting quality content.

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Feel free to upvote me when ever you want, with as little as you want, I promise I will never complain!! LOL

I wouldn't be insulted.

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No. Not at all.

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Stupid of some people can be quite surprising. It's hard to think that there are people who would hate to see a small bonus earning on their hard work. When looking at what is happening out there in the world, it really looks like sanity has gone out of the window.

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Some people forget they're not the only person in the world. This complainer just doesn't understand why you can't upvote them with more strength, because they feel like they deserve it for some reason. I hope that they at least saw your explanation and maybe got off their high horse a little bit and calmed down. There's no reason to be upset over how small an upvote it. Would they rather it was a downvote? Gee whiz.

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Different people different nature and thinking. A small upvote is a step forward for larger %per upvote. It's that simple. Cheers

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well I find it absurd that someone can blame you for supporting him with small votes.

We forget that here nothing is free and everything that is donated must always be accepted with a big thank you.

I find it difficult to understand everything that has happened to you 😰

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It was our eldest son who first said to our youngest when he was throwing a tantrum...

You git what you git and don't throw a fit!

I shall gladly accept the mark ‼️ of the LEO beast (Toruk) any time, any weight, any hour, any day! 🤪😁

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Wow, as much as I respect eveyone's right to their opinion. That is just comical. I'll take a guarantedd .66% vote over no vote at all. It is called gratitude for whwt you are receiving as opposed to focusing on what one is "perceiving" they are not receiving.

And who on here has the time to read all the posts? I read 1/3 of the posts my account votes on, there are only 24 hours in a day. I don't feel bad about that at all, I'm spreading the love to more than the 5 posts I can read.

Interesting man, I wouldn't sweat it.

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Reminds me of that old saying: "No good deed goes unpunished." As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy to have your upvotes whatever the size. And now that I've changed my recovery account away from Steem thanks to you, feel free to go hog wild upvoting my content! No complaints here! Thanks again @onealfa :)

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well you did the right thing in putting the account on the list, but the wrong thing was that it let the massage get to you. you do what you want and can, someone offended by an upvote, f him...

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quite funny. Every LEO is good.

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I have no issue with getting any kind of vote, no matter how little the amount. :)

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I'm grateful for any reply, comment, up vote, free beer, anything, anytime.

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