Seriously Though: What's up with @dan?

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Just look at those piercing blue eyes!

What a sexy beast.

What an appropriate time to make inappropriate comments like I'm John Oliver via Adam Driver.

Okay, I'm done with that bit, I think.

Starting it off with a bang.

Seriously though

The creator of Bitshares, Steem, and EOS is quite the enigma.

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What's his endgame?

What's his angle?
What's he really thinking?
Is he a crypto idealist or a corporate lapdog?
Is he a Trojan Horse or a boon for any network he touches?
Is he just fickle and whimsical and likes starting new things?

Who knows?

I felt the need to eventually field this question because no one else seems to be touching it with a ten-foot pole (for good reason). @dan left Steem, presumably because @ned is a ridiculous man-child with no vision, but also because he wanted to break free of Graphene's limitations and single-threaded nature.

Plus Condenser! Oh my stars!

I mean I get it. I've built plenty of things where I'm like, "Shit, I spent a lot of time on this but if I had the option, I'd start from ground zero with a fresh slate." Trying to untangle a spaghetti factory is harder than just starting over a lot of the time. Especially when the thing you just built is decentralized and doesn't even technically belong to you anymore. How frustrating!


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This isn't working... I should start over...

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He's got something in his front pocket, for you!
Wow I guess I wasn't done; I surprise even myself.
Seriously though that's a real song: I blame the South Park reference.


There's no such thing as a free phone.
The cake is a lie.
@edicted's brain is broken: Try again later.


Hours later...

Let's get down to business!

@dan is the kind of guy that goes 110% all day every day focus-fired on one thing until he burns out and starts the next thing. He's got a lot of gas in the tank and remarkable stamina for being able to stick with it so long and actually get shit done. Once the thing is done though he'll move on to the next thing as long as it stands on its own two feet. That's just how it is.

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Back in Summer 2016 he was rocking Steem something pretty fierce as we can see. $9000 payout for "Groundbreaking Account Recovery Solution". Funny huh? How we just take account recovery for granted. It truly is a groundbreaking solution that adds security without adding any attack vectors to the network. The recovery account can only help you recover your account, and can't conspire to steal it. Pretty smort.

Old news

But as we see on March 15, 2017 @dan left to go do the EOS thing. He worked on that for quite a while eh? Six days ago he declared his resignation from Block.One on the Hive blockchain.


What's Next for EOS, ETH, and BTC?

Now, for those of us that don't speak @dan this post is probably quite confusing. You have to know a lot about global politics, servers, regulations, decentralization, etc. to even begin to understand it.

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I just had an idea for EOS and I've been working on it for 48 hours straight like a boss.

You can tell from the post that his mind is still unravelling from the gravity of quitting Block.One. All the reasons it failed and all the reasons he quit are just lurking in the background going unsaid. He talks quite a bit about EOS for someone who just quit and is now posting on Hive about it. Nothing new there.

What else does he talk about?

Lastly, anyone building anything that results in economic profit and loss imposes tax consequences on their users. Tokens like Voice or Hive create tax events every time they change hands. This is why I decline rewards when I post on Hive, they are not worth the tax accounting. With the growing sophistication of the tax authorities and the loss of privacy, none of these token-based ecosystems / platforms stand a chance unless they automatically do all of the tax calculations and boil it down to a 1099. The only way to automate such calculations is to have full knowledge of every purchase price and sale price. Such things are not possible if users are trading on multiple exchanges in a decentralized manner.

The previous four posts did not have declined rewards.

LOL

You gonna make a tax aggregator for Hive so everyone pays theirs properly? Make sure the government get's theirs? I wish you would! That would certainly settle the crypto idealist vs corporate lapdog debate in one fell swoop.

JK he won't do that...

@dan doesn't work on boring stuff.
All-in on passion-projects only.

Mostly the post is about how even DPOS can't scale. DPOS was supposed to be this epic scaling solution, and it is: compared to the "competition", but at the same time any "dapp" that wants to scale up to tens of millions of active users is going to be forced to create centralized solutions that are subject to regulations. Of course I'm still holding out hope that second layer off-chain stuff and torrents are going to eliminate a lot of that burden but that's a discussion for another time.

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Hostile Takeover

The point here is @dan looked up for a second and noticed that: wow the Hive community is still around. That's pretty crazy! How'd they do it?

No thanks to you, @dan!

Unless he's playing grandmaster 4D chess and did this all on purpose, @dan is pretty much the reason that the ninjamine existed and had the ability to elect every consensus witness. Steem was basically weak by design and bound to get taken over in a hostile manner. I maintain that this was just simple greed and the need to maintain control of the project one had built.

Trust me: I get it.

Most creators fall into the same category. No one wants to build something they're passionate about and then trust other people to manage it. Why risk it? The chance of corruption is high.


Still, no apology?

He centralized the network out of greed and the need to control it, to the point of restarting the entire chain so that he could get that ninjamine just right. Then he designed consensus so that the ninjamine could elect 30 top witnesses based off the stake of one account.

The icing on the cake was all the claims about how DPOS is more decentralized than POW because each witness controls exactly 5% of the network while mining pools are much worse... even though one account can elect all witnesses.

Remember this? Pepperidge Farm remembers...

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So Which validators are more decentralized!??!?!!11

The answer is POW!

The tradeoff is decentralization vs scaling; you know this.
You can't have both.
I get it, I really do, but you can stop getting high off your own supply.
I will allow it.
We've had enough of that nonsense.

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Proof-of-brain isn't a thing!

Try again, buddy...

This is an issue between ideals and real-world implementation.
It never works out the way you think it will.

Water under the bridge.

It's not the things that @dan says that are alarming most of the time; it's the things he doesn't say. Truthfully, I'm willing to give the guy a lot of slack when it comes to social dynamics, because when your brain is operating on a certain wavelength, particular nuances are going to go right over your head. I know all too well how that goes. Yikes!

So what does Hive want to hear?

  • Sorry I centralized your chain into oblivion and got you guys attacked by the most obvious vector.
    • I was worried of losing control of my project, the exact thing that happened to me on Bitshares, and ironically it happened again in spite of the ninjamine.
  • EOS is crap: JK I love all my children equally (not really though)
  • Hive to the moon: let's go!
No one expects any of this to happen.

It would just be crazy if it did. As THE lead dev and founder of the project in addition to all the other experience, I'm gonna go ahead and make a wild guess that @dan is about x10 a normal dev. Sure would be nice if he started building on Hive again. Perhaps he needs more convincing. We have all the time in the world.

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What is the Hive community?

Something @dan might not realize: what he left behind in 2017 is nothing like what Hive is today. Hive has serious abandonment issues, but those issues are nothing compared to the betrayals and outright corruption and garbage we've been trying to route out of the network... all the while simultaneously attempting to coax and foster other devs to build here. We are spread thin, but still not even on our last legs.

Hive has staying-power.

Hive is a primary example of an entity that should not exist: a network that refuses to die.

Do you know what a 99% drop in value does to a corporation? Completely 100% destroys it, or guts it enough to get bought out by a vulture capitalist on the cheap (JSUN: say not The Defiler's name!). That's what happened to the precious Steemit Inc. We will miss you, good riddance!

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger?

Do you know what a 99% drop in value does to a network? To a community? What sickening adversity does to a ride-or-die group?

They ride... or die!

And we are a ridin'.

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We are in the: "hard times create strong men" phase (ignore obvious sexism). We are in a consolidation period. The fat and muscle have been stripped away and all that remains are blood, sweat, tears, bone, sinew, and skin in the game.

There's no more sugar left.

It's all piss and vinegar.

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The meat grinder has been turned on for 3 years.

And what came out the other end?

Zealots.

Smite all the non-believers!

Hive to the moon!

Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if it's your own!

I believe!

My life for Aiur!

Oops! Too far!

The point is that while this is an inclusive network and everyone is welcome, few will be trusted. Link Marines and the XRP Army have nothing on us (although looks like XRP is catching up). If you thought sports fans were nuts, just wait until such zealotry has a monetary incentive and DIEHARD community behind it.

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Lord Kazzak Must DIE!

Hive no longer has leaders: it has voices. Some are louder than others. Ask anyone around these parts who the biggest zealot is. Who's the most ride or die person on the network with the most influence and persona? I don't even have to say the name, everyone already knows. That's how tight we are here at this point.

The zealots of Hive are inspiring. When I look around and see my peers I say to myself, "Yes, this is my team, and I am proud." The ragtag rebels continue to work on rocket. Hive to the moon. Abundance for everyone. @dan is not a part of the team yet... but he could be without that much effort. Unfortunately he strikes me as an all-or-nothing type guy. There is no in-between. Same with all of us: we get it.


Correct me if I'm wrong... but aren't you like, rich now?

Didn't you successfully launch a BILLION dollar ICO? Haven't you been working like nonstop for like however many years as one of the most experienced blockchain devs/executives in the space? Aren't you a huge Bitcoin bull of top of all of that? I assume Block.One resources went into Bitcoin for a reason. Now worth $5B.

https://bitcointreasuries.org/

And you have the audacity to come here, shilling your other projects (which is fine), on the founding account, claiming to be impressed by this community's progress, resilience, and decentralization, without actually putting any money where your mouth is? None huh? $0?

What if I told you buying Hive with USD wasn't a tax event? Would you buy some then?

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Tom Hanks is in trouble now!

There must have been a miscommunication somewhere.

Because something doesn't add up when the guy who makes $12,000 a year has 3x the stake of the founder. It's not that we're asking for handouts... oh no... we are way way way past that point. It's that when you come back to this network as such a wishy-washy cryptic enigma that is so classically on-brand for The @dan, how can we possibly take that seriously?

Simply put:

Something doesn't quite add up here.
It takes a lot to earn trust these days.

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Oh no! A trademark violation!

Lawsuit Pending

@dan

Truly, this is a guy who just keeps going and going and going. Apparently the next project down the line is a book:

More Equal Animals Book Released

Consider for a moment that everything you think you know just might be wrong or incomplete.

Oh oh, I've heard this before!

Like a splinter in your mind: driving you mad.

... A prison... for your mind.

So yeah one of my witness partners is reading it now, and apparently it is classic @dan at his most @dan.

Commentary, you ask?

I'm reading the book between doing other things. On page 74 and wondering if he's ever going to get to the point

this thing is dan af

I have spent the past decade experimenting with
technologies designed to be resistant to capture by small groups

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If that was his goal, then I'd say he's failed miserably at every attempt

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Proof of Stake blockchains, like the ones I
have created, tend to select for the wealthy and
cryptocurrency exchanges which manage deposits of other people’s tokens

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at least he's honest about it

...

jfc dan
page 100: so everything I said for the past 100 pages doesn't really matter

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Analysis?

... larimer always falls for the same damn trap: he builds a world in his head and fails to understand how people would use it differently than he imagined

Love it!

You heard it here first folks! This book is the most @dan thing that ever @dan'ed. Expect the world bringer to keep stacking um up so we can knock em down.

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I see dead crypto!

Unbreakable

Remember this movie? Spoiler alert: Samuel L. Jackson creates a bunch of disasters on purpose and kills a lot of people just so he can find his foil: the Unbreakable Bruce Willis. Immune to all harm and sickness. That's what us old people call the Shyamalan Twist. Year 2000 didn't have Netflix. They can't all be winners.

So is Hive the Bruce Willis to @dan's Samuel L? I guess we'll find out one of these days. After surviving multiple betrayals including a brutal hostile takeover I'm feeling pretty Unbreakable.

Conclusion

There's a reason no one really talks about @dan quitting Block.One or starting to post again on Hive. His motives are totally unknown, and the chance that he would actually commit to building real value for this community again after all this time is pretty low.

No one really wants to come out and be like: F-@dan that abandoner can suck rocks, as many of us still have great respect for the founder and inventor of the entire consensus algorithm we are still using to this day. At the same time no one is going to be like yay @dan is back he'll fix everything, because that's obviously not going to happen either.

We remain cautiously optimistic.

Sure, it might feel like a small victory that @dan quit Block.One and started shilling his next project on Hive. No matter what happens, it will be interesting. What happens next? Looks like you finished the book. What now?

Users on Hive are salty and grizzled and it's not like we're just going to get our hopes up because the founder pops in to talk about EOS, scaling, regulations, taxes, and a book that is apparently a random stream of consciousness as it relates to overall generic governance.

There's a lot of untapped potential floating around on Hive (nothing new there). The next two years will be pinnacle. Getting new users during a mega-bull run is easy; it's retaining those users during the inevitable crash that's tough. Maybe @dan will have something to contribute; maybe he won't.

It doesn't matter either way.

The zealots of Hive will grind forward regardless.
For The Swarm!



Also, what's Hive's Sexual Harassment Policy?

Can someone have an HR rep email me?


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Step on my throat... you rudely large man!

Break my fingers... you brooding mountain!

Wow! I'm the worst.
What's wrong with me?
Thoughts?

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Quite the post! I came back to hive because I consider it more successful at achieving freedom than voice. I can now support competitors to voice.

The ninja mine was all ned. The mining reset was due to a bug, I would have preferred to avoid that bug. I sold my STEEM when I saw Steemit driving it into the ground.

With respect to my prior posts not declining rewards, it was due to the buggy/quirky hive.blog user interface.

It’s great to be back to hive.

I can now support competitors to voice.

Any more details on that yet? 😏

Ah well, good to have you back.
2021 gonna be nuts.
Even more than this post.
But you know that.

wow. you got some attention lol.

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Yeah I guess I'm kind of a big deal.

Being a crypto influencer is weird.

The other day @krnel used my definition of bull/bear/lion/shark.
Tipping point incoming?

Whale status will cement you in the history of hive gods

This post was/is HISTORIC!

Dan AF!

Use peakd.com like everyone else.

Or leofinance.io 😃

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You forgot to decline rewards again 🤣🤑🤑🤑

Don't forget I just tipped you Hive, LEO, and PAL with the same upvote.

Quick, downvote him to save him from tax work!

I can't wait to airdrop Justin Sun like a billion dollars of fake money that he will then owe taxes on.

No, tell him to just beneficiary to me instead.

Why decline rewards?
I he can do that on facebook.
Rewards for everyone

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I agree with you that hive is more successful to Archiv freedom. The potential is huge :)

Btw if you don't like the hive.blog interface you can also try https://leofinance.io/ and https://peakd.com/. I like both :)

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@dan good to have you here!
This is a huge compliment for the platform and community.
Whats your agenda after EOS?

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Its good to see you back.

I might have been a bit harsh on twitter over you leaving STEEM and your perpetual project starting, but Hive could be a good fit for you.
The expectations are low, pressure nonexistent, the platform familiar to you.

We really wouldnt mind you building a dapp and joining our ecosystem.

Hello @dan

Welcome to Leofinance and Hive.

We are all indebted to you for creating this platform which we all enjoy. Thank you!

Perhaps you will even write a post explaining how this model incentivized the behavior you like to see, and let’s you ignore the behavior you want to go away, so society improves visa vie individuals doing what’s both in their own best interest and the best interest of the Community.

I would also love to get your opinion on how this platform could be improved based on your knowledge of its creation, and your experiences building EOS, please.

I look forward to reading those and your other posts.

Thanks again, you have my respect and admiration for what you have created.

@shortsegments

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This was entertaining. Ya, I feel like we were the forgotten child, left to fend for ourselves in the hardest of environments, only to come out, get cleaned up, and start being totally self-reliant. We've been through it all that even slight pain is looked at as a positive. We don't seek comfy, safe places; we never had anything to lose and everything to gain with the biggest chip any person, place, or thing could imagine. We will take it by sheer force while others sit around waiting for their saviors.

We sure do have a lot of special Dans here....

You must construct additional pylons.

Lol he constructed DAN with pylons all over the map.

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you must place dat in a power field

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I guess he's back for one thing, either the community or what the technology has become, according to history, community plays about 60% role in the success of any new tech,...might he want to leverage the community here? Time will tell...

In my opinion, of all his creations, Hive is still the most thriving one in terms of development, community growth and tech potential, thats got to mean something to him....

In this life, nothing goes for something, if he really wants to extract value from here, he knows better to bring value than just vague plans of a achieving world freedom.

Respect to him though...

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A long rant that most of us were thinking anyway.

Looks like he’s thinking “Release a lot of codes and they will come!” lol Whuhahhahaha!

Nice Starcraft references :)

It's hard not to be in awe of the guy....yet its also hard not to be extremely disappointed with his outcomes at the same time. It's like his brilliance is a curse because he has a few blind spots.

If Dan were to come back to work on Hive I think the Dan trio we'd have would be unstoppable.

it's my wet dream to see a triple dan team on hive :D

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how are the other two dans?

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as for how I'm guessing they didn't change names after their parents named them at birth, if you meant who then I was referring to @theycallmedan and @blocktrades 😛

didn't know @blocktrades was also a dan :P

Lol! I sometimes get annoyed with John Oliver but it’s kind of nice to have our own.

That was a fun read and really expressed what perhaps a lot of us are feeling. We want @dan to stay because he’s a powerhouse and we appreciate what he built (and also because as a decentralized community, on average we suck at marketing as much as Ned did and Just having Dan here is PR) but also feel a little skeptical that he’s just going to lecture us about freedom for a while, promote his book and leave.

...Just like our birth fathers...

I think it’d be nice if he built something on top of Hive next time. If not we can make fun of him for not.

Take your time @dan, we are totally not bitter about the last few years and how fucked up we turned out even though by now we realize we’ll be ok whether you stick around or not and we will probably be better off thanks to those years you allowed us to grow without someone to always look to for answers.

We are almost grown up now and eventually we’ll figure what our relationship is sooner or later....

Oh and sorry, but now my third favorite Dan, no hard feelings😆

Likely sexual harassment.

Leave it to @edicted to address the elephant in the room, kudos man. I enjoyed your lighthearted needling of @dan from a true "salty and grizzled" member of the skeleton crew that refuses to die.

Cool of @dan to respond at least and correct you on some of the points that remain somewhat shrouded in mystery.

I think @dan should consider doing a Hive AMA and field some of the burning questions all of us have, if he's up to it?

Who knows might be fun, and likely a little awkward but why not?

There is a community for that.

Right, that's what I was thinking!

upvoted just for the entertainment value alone...

Want more and more
People just want more and more
So give me love
If thats what you are looking for

Freed from desire
Mind and senses purified
Freed from desire

My love aint got no money
He's got his strong beliefs.

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lol

I know right? I've really really outdone myself with this travesty.

My thinking for what it is worth is he has unfinished business. Hive is the closest vision he had in his head and knows the project still has to be finished. We forget this is his baby and all the other ones mean far less as this was the original. Nothing beats the first one and why he is around. I would guess he wants to get involved as this is his true love. The community is here and can help take Hive forward.

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Speechless but thoroughly entertained!

Now you've piqued my curiosity and I'm going to have to go and read @dan's post. 😂

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i had like 20 different comments in my head while reading, but i forgot them all till i got to the end, now i would have to read it again but it is to long :D

at least it was interesting :D

i remembered one. yes we should be dead, and it weird that we are not. and we should be mooning (if not price than users) but we are not, and it is weird.

oh my god, they killed Kenny?

You've said it...
Joined Steem when he was no longer here, gone through too much to pay any attention to him.

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Dan has bigger goals.
And they are not what anyone think (unless you think he is a reptilian overlord here to help humanity by dooming it)

My biggest butting of heads with him was when he tried to talk about DPOS and MMORPGs.
He wanted the design to be your just start from the beginning and replay EVERYTHING any time anything breaks.
I tried to tell him that in an MMO, you spend most your time at full health (etc.) and so replaying so much is pointless. In fact, anything older than an hour is almost useless.
But, he wouldn't give on this point.

I find his logic to not be accurate.
I find that he seems to be bleeding a lot of money.
And his desires seem to be ... very strange

He is very strange.

But then again all the super nerds at the top of this pyramid are.

As someone who wants to make a turn-based (block-based) MMORPG here I find this very interesting, but I'm not 100% understanding what is being said here.

In order to verify integrity of every character, item, and gold-piece in the game, every node must have all the correct information and interpret it properly. If something goes wrong you have to fix it... that might require a replay? I guess? Not fully understanding what you are getting at here.

Dan was insisting that every replay had to start from the beginning.
So that this means every node has everything correct.

From my view, most of the information is unnecessary, and useless after any given time.
Things like HP or MP are important while in a fight, but the next day, none of that fight mattered.
(yes, death, loot, exp gained, weapons broken, are all important, but they are a tiny fraction of the data involved)

And, as a game gets older, the chain becomes extremely large, and replaying becomes a very hefty price.
and most of the information is useless.

So, i suggested having saved points, or just resetting things like HP and MP and/or leave them out of the block chain.

Yes, exactly, you are right.

Obviously "checkpoints" are the solution.
All you have to do is get the network to agree that this "save state" at at this point in time is valid... and then the network remains in consensus.

The thing about @dan is that he's an idealist so it makes sense that he would veto the idea.
Idealism and Reality need to link up somewhere.
Even if one of these checkpoints was corrupt anyone could do a full replay to prove it.
Doesn't seem like a big deal.

Full replay is not sustainable at high transaction rates. In the case of eos snapshots are necessary if you don’t want to take months to replay.

So you serialize all the info in the database... hash it... come to consensus on the hashes... then you can seed one database with another and hash the serialized info to know it's correct? This is how I imagine it working I don't actually know things.

I just finished his book for the first time, and WOW everyone should read it. I am going to have to pour through it a few more times to let it all soak in. We are demonstrating what he talks about in his book, here on Hive.

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Interesting. Yeah Hive is strong I need to buy more before everyone else realizes the gold mine we are sitting on. Current market sentiment be damned.

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It's a really good read you can download the PDF here. My fav app is Voice Aloud Reader and it will read it to you, this book is a very interesting and I would appreciate your thoughts!

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It would strike me as odd that folks that went to the lengths stinc did to control the currency, and create 100's of 1000's zombie accounts to appear popular, would not still control a sizable percentage of the hive on the exchanges.
In fact, any anonymous accounts in the top 1000 are likely controlled by far less than 1000 people.

I'm not sure that all the stincy moles are gone, yet.

I still think that Steem could have been that one thing that the world would forever remember him for if he had:

  • Ditched Ned.
  • Used proper people for doing marketing instead of dumping a shit ton of Steem on people who claimed to do good things.
  • Continued to focus on the community with good token distribution.

Those early days of Steem(it) was truly amazing, but it went south very fast.

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Yep, people become corrupted very easily.
With so much money on the line everyone got crazy.

HOWEVER!

Now that we have what we have... the position that we are in today is like... legendary.
People don't see it yet because of the price action, but damn...
We are set up quite nice at the moment.

I think LeoFinance is an amazing first truly successful Hive community and even though we've seen many great things already, we've just started out. The next 6 months will be very interesting, but the next 5 years will be even cooler to witness.

I wonder if Dan was forced to quit because he didn't want to touch Ned's guitar.. Or if it was because he was not willing to obey the man-with-the-great-hair and play on his strings anymore..

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Don't forget, we still have the ninja mined stake in the DHF and looking at some proposals, it's easy to imagine how that can trigger greed.

Who cares about Dan if we have an Edicted creating pieces like that? Screw his $5 billion or whatever he has, I rather read another 5 billion posts of yours and upvote each with 0.175 LEO. That's 875.000.000 LEO for you!

Do you really work for Amazon earning 12k USD a year? Sounds pretty much like my job...

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Such zeal!

Much wow.

But it's also to important to note that if Dan was working for us creating what we told him to like CDP smart contracts, SMTs, RC pools, etc etc etc... We could easily pay him like $1,000,000 a year (more like huge bounties per project) out of the dev fund and that investment would pay for itself like x100 over time. We truly need everyone we can get.

Good idea! 1 million would pay for an 8-pack of Dan's favorite toilet paper. His Jedi buttocks needs plenty now that Corona strikes back!

SMT's? I still have the SMT logo T-Shirt from SteemFest3...

SMTs = warpfield online

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He can always submit a proposal to dao, but I doubt the other dan will approve it.

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Hahahha yes!

Definitely the LeoFinance blog of the month haha.

Dan has had a huge influence on me in terms of the networks I've been involved in and how I now think about decentralisation. But I now also share a lot of your pessimism around what the fuck he is doing here again just wishy washy shilling his new things.

Would love to see Dan put some money where his mouth is (As you say, it's not like he's short of that) and truly contribute to the community he helped birth.

Intrigued to see what's next though and whether Hive is somehow involved or if we're just being used to shill the next potentially great thing.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

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There for sure is a lot happening at the moment on Hive and this just adds to it. Going to be a very interesting year!

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More info why you see this.

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the moral of the story is: when you get all homo-erotic on someone they actually take notice and reply :)))

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exactly.

What exactly did @dan do for the past 3 years?

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I guess a lot of money... :)

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for me it's simple. A guy that leaves one project after another doesn't seem trustworthy to me...

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Welcome back, @dan.

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First "OMG WALL of text"

Quote What a sexy beast.

makes me smile :)

Factorio = cool game.

Zealots, good unit.

About Hive, yes best chain with the most potential I know.

Distribution on DPOS chains is better than on other models.

Thank you for that wall of text. Was a good and long read. Now I need to read the comments :D

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daddy...?

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Yes! So much yes!
That was a kinda-scathing sorta-criticism that made me laugh out loud at multiple points. There are so many narratives to follow these days, but this should be an interesting one. One question though: do you think this correspondence might benefit from a few more @dan tags? That's the only thing I would change... just more Dan, you know? Loved it though. Props.

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I think you're quite the man. I like the fact that you question every motive. That check and balance will be needed if this chain will be free of leechers and marauders. Great epic one here. I see Dan had to come in for clarity sake

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I came after Dan and its been interesting to see people's reactions and comments and his seemingly candid interactions. Fun stuff

Let's see what will he bring to hive?
Will be hive be hardfork at the second time? Some must agree with his work and others disagree?

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This was quite Entertaining, there's just so much of HIVE past I don't know of,

Now I wish I had a History book, but I would still not read it because I

SUCK

at handling papers :-)

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I'm a straight rider, you don't wanna f...with me...😉
Yes, we're ridin' 🏄

I have to hand it to you, your posts are extremely entertainingly written. Makes me really fun to read the, because really only a few can keep up on this platform! Thanks for that and keep up the good work.

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I still haven't figured out if he's here as an author or even as a developer. If he were here as a developer, which is very welcome given his experience, it would be a great step forward. But honestly I haven't understood it yet :p

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Brilliant post.

That's not fair, @ned is a decent guitar player!

Uhm... erm...

I wonder if now I could add some mysterious music here to this post to create even more cliff-hanging suspense to the plot. };)

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very good squire!

I love freedom, so I came to #hive.

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a very rambly post, I am sure @dan will be confused as well when he reads it or it would just make perfect sense to him as it is attuned to his brain waves...

maybe @edicted just channelled @dan

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A matter of concern!