Chill Pill

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Getting it from all angles!

If you haven't noticed lately I've been a bit, shall we say, 'high energy'.
Or perhaps manic.
Or perhaps just loud, rude, and annoying.

Whatever it is, people have noticed!

I've been in a new Discord recently (GO) and been told by multiple users that I need to chill out. It's surprisingly PG in there for a gamer chatroom, which is fine, just unexpected. I listened in to the last CTT and @starkerz seemed to hint at it subtly on-air as well. Don't get into an argument with that @edicted guy; not worth! It's also been a running joke in the LEO Discord as well, in addition to counter-trading me every time I give investment advice. Luckily Jim Cramer came along and completely overshadowed me on that front.

Hm, that's fair.

I often come off as extremely abrasive and rude, especially considering the tone-deaf nature of the Internet in combination with the pseudo-anonymity of my account. It is, after all, very easy to leverage the digital nature of the interwebs as a sort of catharsis valve that allows one to vent all sorts of frustrations; most of them completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

Is that what's going on here?

Eh, I don't know. Maybe. At the same time I don't really get locked into emotional states and can pretty much change up the tone at any time. Comes in handy when things get a bit out of control.

Take this post for example.

In combination with the comments of this other previous post, it could all easily be interpreted as a very nasty and insulting retort to @valued-customer. Which is definitely not my intent but... looking at it in retrospect how could it be interpreted in any other way? In fact the entire post at the core seems to basically call out anyone who's worried about CBDC as a clueless fucking idiot. Considering that most people in crypto seem to be worried about CBDC the reductive outcome of my post is basically just an insult to everyone around me.

How is that helpful?

Ah well again it might be helpful to me in venting frustrations that may or may not even be crypto related, but that's a strategy that oozes weakness and is riddled with diminishing returns. Do people like me really expect to gain ground by insulting the intelligence of others who have different opinions? Surprisingly this seems to be a very common tactic; especially in the political realm.

It's not so much about changing the minds of others but creating a polarization and echo-chamber of like-minded individuals. Other people that already agree with the points being made and also are also frustrated will latch on by proxy and engage in the cathartic venting. Others may jump on the bandwagon simply because they don't want to be ridiculed or ostracized. Of course none of this is helpful in any long term capacity, and reads more like a junkie trying to get their next fix from moment to moment. Coping mechanisms are everywhere.

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So circling back to @valued-customer, he makes a lot of points that I don't necessarily agree with, but also I do not throw away the advice. I simply tuck it away for a later date in case they start to become more relevant over time.

And let's be honest that's exactly what happened with all of the COVID conspiracy theory. Win after win after win. Everything the conspiracy theorists said in March and April 2020 that sounded completely ridiculous? Ah well it all started sounding less and less ridiculous over the course of time. To the point that now in the mainstream the idea that it came from a bat is absurd and obviously it was made in a lab. Didn't see that one coming did ja? I didn't.

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No contest on the solutions

The funny part of all of this is that usually pointing out the problem is very easy and trivial, while coming up with solutions is the difficult part. Solutions tend to create more problems. Yet, we all know what the solutions are and there is no argument.

WE RELY TOO MUCH ON CENTRALIZED INFRASTRUCTURE.

The Internet itself is centralized.
This is an obvious attack vector.
Food & water production is centralized.
This is an obvious attack vector.
People are physical beings and crypto is digital.
This is yet another attack vector.
Reliance on technology/society to survive bad times is not the best strategy.

It's so obvious that the solution is to not only create strong decentralized digital communities, but to also extend that into the real world and create strong decentralized physical communities. So far this has not happened yet, and it is indeed cause for alarm.

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On many occasions I've correctly pointed out that gold and silver are not in competition with crypto. Gold and silver are old and outdated physical money. Gold and silver are redundant. But guess what? You know who loves robust redundancy? Crypto! This makes gold and silver the perfect fix for any and all physical decentralized communities that emerge.

The fact that none of us are printing our own gold and silver coins is actually kind of embarrassing. We should at least be buying old silver dollars that actually have silver in them, as the cost of low quality ones is basically just the value of the junk silver contained therein. We also need a way to verify the authenticity of gold and silver assets that others have produced.

Hopefully soon™ 3D printing will reach the level where accomplishing these tasks is a trivial matter. Until then we probably have to rely on other means. How often would these gold and silver coins actually get used as payment? Well, the entire point of them is that they're only supposed to be used when shit really hits the fan (like the Internet is down and it's impossible to trade crypto). On the other side of that coin crypto users love anonymous P2P transactions, and nothing is more anonymous than hard money that doesn't even have a serial number attached to it.

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Conclusion

Ah well it's been fun but perhaps it's time to dial it back a bit. There is no synergy or progress made by insulting those around us. Intent is largely irrelevant, and all that matters is how others interpret our actions. Perception is reality.

Crypto has been a disappointment in a lot of respects. It is too centralized. It is too greed filled, tribalist, and hypocritical. There are too many users trying to extract value from it rather than add value to it. It's clear that we are in dire need of better reputation systems that hold community members accountable for their actions while at the same time (more importantly) reward good behavior that increases value across the board.

The decentralization of money is simply not enough. Decentralized money is the funding mechanism that will allow for all things to eventually experience Balkanization. We need to build strong communities that are no longer apathetic towards one another while trying to extract value in every way possible. We need symbiotic relationships that benefit all parties involved. We need to cut out the parasites. It is known.



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I was trying to see where this would eventually lead to and I did. In the meantime, I'll state the most clichè line in the book. "You can't have an omelette without breaking a few eggs." Maybe you could decide to tone it out a bit, but it doesn't change the fact that if everyone had an overtly calm mien and didn't utter a word but simply nod in agreement at everything, what a boring world it would be.

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It wouldn't just be a boring world, it would be the compliant, self-censoring, obedient world our self-appointed "masters" have been working towards. We NEED people like @edicted who aren't afraid to rock the boat a little bit.

I'm sure I've had a couple of blunt comments from him, and after I've got over my initial "WTF... bastard !" response, then I've sat back and thought "Yeh, maybe I was being an idiot. Let's think that point through a bit more thoroughly and try again..." 😀

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Wow...I thought he was giving the truth a bit of a stretch with how mercilessly blunt he said he was but I've seen it's actually true, if not undermined.

I hope it never gets directed at me though. I'd have a mental breakdown, lol.

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Think of it as character building, or a bit of tough love 😁

From what I've seen, @edicted will ruthlessly demolish poorly constructed arguments. But I don't recall ever seeing him attack the person making the argument (certainly nothing stronger than a small amount of light-hearted mockery that wouldn't even cross the threshold of changing room banter).

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We need to build strong communities that are no longer apathetic towards one another while trying to extract value in every way possible.

This is how the human brain works - it always tries to follow the path of the least energy costs. If there is a shortest path from point A to point B, then the brain will choose this path and it does not matter that it may not be ethical or even criminal!

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If only this was true then we'd actually be working together and creating x100 times the resources that we are today. The prisoners dilemma is real.

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I share your concerns about the status of the cryptocurrency community. It's sad that some people prefer to extract value from the system rather than provide value to it. Building robust communities with symbiotic relationships is unquestionably critical to improving the situation. I also believe that improved reputation systems can assist in holding community members accountable and rewarding good behaviour. It is critical to remember that change takes time and effort from everyone involved. Rather than being divisive or demeaning to others, we should focus on creating constructive changes and promoting a culture of collaboration and mutual gain.

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Food & water production is centralized.
This is an obvious attack vector.

But at least individuals can do some things on their on to somewhat lessen the threat of such attacks. Have a garden and produce some of your own food. Have at least several months of sustenance stored away (rice, beans, and pasta are dirt cheap). Water’s a bit tougher to store significant amounts of, but you can plan ahead ways to collect and purify it.

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Dude. If everyone agreed on everything and never clashed, you're probably in a cult. That's bad. Don't be afraid to be yourself. Don't be afraid to fuck up. Don't be afraid to learn. Conflicting personalities everywhere, is natural, and a sign of a healthy community. Society just likes to sweep it under the rug sometimes and pretend it doesn't happen but the only reason there is a society is because clashing yields results.

Now I'm all fired up. Someone's going to hate me. So what. And I don't carry my baggage around either. In the moment at all times. Might disagree but that doesn't mean I hate and hodl.

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The funny thing is that I learn the most when I'm aggressively wrong because it baits people into expending a lot of energy to correct me.

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LOL. If you're going to fish, might as well get enough food for everyone.

I've chilled out quite a bit over the years, making a conscious effort to do so; still misconstrued. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

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It's not so much about changing the minds of others.

I do agree with this. We are differently made for a reason. That's human. You can't change people's minds. Fix your stuff and there is nothing too bad in letting your frustration known but it should be minimal to some sense.

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maybe when hive is $100 a piece we can all club together and rent an allotment on some fertile ground somewhere and then pay the locals to garden it for us and send out tiny fragments of semi-decomposed vegetables to all the shareholders
#bitcoinisland
#starttherevolution

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"I often come off as extremely abrasive and rude..."

I actually don't perceive that. I appreciate direct statements because it clarifies issues maximally, which facilitates solutions, IMHO. I neither shy from not agreeing as to things, but seek to either be proved wrong, or stand by my understanding. I deeply appreciate the strongest rational criticisms because they most potentiate me learning something I didn't know, and want to.

I was surprised to be mentioned. I hope my own argumentativeness isn't interpreted as hostility. I just am greatly encouraged by your success and very much desire to see that continue to benefit you despite what I believe is going to be significant opposition. I suspect that since you singled me out, I must have provided stimulus or information that gave you ability to reflect on our discussions, and that is the optimal success I could hope for. You may still not agree with me, but at least I can be sure you have carefully reconsidered your financial security, and I literally cannot ask for more. You are your own best keeper, and always will be.

I am left hoping I haven't created any ill will between us by failing to just STFU. I note your final discussion seems to fully encompass my thesis, which is that depending on centralized systems leaves one vulnerable to the owners of those systems, and I am confident your stores of value merit your best attention to their security.

Thank you for your kindness, and the gentle language you have used in our discussions. You clearly have a lot of self respect, because you can only show others respect you merit. I may not have deserved that respect, but you deserved it, and earned it.

Edit: you state "...create strong decentralized physical communities. So far this has not happened yet, and it is indeed cause for alarm."

But it is happening. I am aware of several groups that have real property they are seeking to develop as foci for decentralized production, with the intent of fostering civil society outside of official purview. Some while ago @dbroze resumed posting on Hive, and has recently acquired property for exactly that purpose.

I myself am working on similar facilities, which may seem quite fantastic as I am seeking to do so using goodwill rather than money. Ah, well, we can't all be winners!

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Ah you know I had somewhat forgotten about dbroze's thing down in Mexico.
Good stuff.

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It's not you it's them.

Say what you think, it's refreshing. The internet's fulla people who won't show their friends in real life what they do on the internet.

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I haven't stopped saying what I think.
This post is very on-brand for me.
Two steps forward one step back.

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I love the humor and sarcasm 😜.

And let's be honest that's exactly what happened with all of the COVID conspiracy theory. Win after win after win. Everything the conspiracy theorists said in March and April 2020 that sounded completely ridiculous? Ah well it all started sounding less and less ridiculous over the course of time. To the point that now in the mainstream the idea that it came from a bat is absurd and obviously it was made in a lab. Didn't see that one coming did ja? I didn't.

I didn't too. And my brother in law dies. My daughter explain it to me, and still to this day it gave me chills.

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