Will the ATF Get Headed up by Brian Williams?
At a Reddit ask me anything thread in 2020, Biden's current nominee for the ATF (David Chipman) lied about the Branch Davidians. What he said specifically is that: "At Waco, cult members used 2 .50 caliber Barretts to shoot down two Texas Air National Guard helicopters." Not a single helicopter got shot down during the Waco killing operation.
Apparently, as congratulations for toeing the line in an instance where they thought nobody was paying attention, David Chipman is set to get a massive deep state promotion for outright lying on those who got murdered between February 28 and April 19, 1993.
Not going to happen, not in the age of the internet and internet archive. Brian Williams all but ruined his career when he got called out on his lies when he pretended that his chopper took ground fire from an RPG. (A helicopter can't sustain an RPG hit w/o getting transformed into a pile of rubble.) Whereas David Chipman appears to want to start a career based on a big fat lie by further trying to cloak the ATF as the real Waco victims.
Also, "cult members" do not shoot down State aircraft without some form of fame or infamy. You cannot just make up reality as you please, you sick fuck. The people are awake, and we're paying attention. We know those people got murdered, and you can't retroactively turn them into terrorists with your (Black Hawk Down) Sith mind tricks.
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Waco: tRoE (1997)
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speaking of .50 cal,
this one doesn't have the glitchy dead spots in the audio,
TY, fixed!
great, now i'm stuck for the next hour and five minutes...
immortal technique is rocket-fuel for my soul
also, if a gang rolled a jeep, or a truck onto my property intending to do me harm.
would i not be very well within my natural rights to destroy that vehicle by any means necessary?
They fucked up on the rules of engagement. People will remember!
It's no wonder that they're trying to confirm this liar to head up ATF.
He sure jumped the shark and screwed the pooch with the helo lie.
I expect that someone will grill him on this matter before the vote.
great work
The Branch Davidians did damage one of the helicopters that was shooting at the compound.
Causing it to be called off.
From my point of view, it was a good shoot.
Police, any policing action, they show up, in the daylight, well recognizable and with clear stated intent.
Anything else should result in a clear case where you have the right to defend yourself with deadly force.
And that police force should be reported as being terrorists.
No knock raids only exist because good people rarely shoot at unknown targets. They first try to make sure who it is. So, we clearly have a case of innocent people vs terrorists.
And what happened in WACO still boils my blood.
What happened at Waco boils my blood too. I realize that they claim they landed a chopper after it took fire, but I wonder if there was any photographic evidence of that. Evidence is a funny thing in the Waco massacre. They did manage to make the entire front door vanish so it couldn't be disproven that they "took fire from" the Davidians through the front door on the outside of the building. However, the way that Chipman says "shot down" paints a specific picture. As far as I know, nobody uses shot down in that sense. They might say: "was forced to land," and that'd be the correct way to frame it. Twenty-seven years later, and this motherfucker is just making shit up. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he said that just because he knew he was going to pursue the position at ATF. Thanks for your point of view on the matter, @builderofcastles!
Update:
"While it is largely understood that Branch Davidian members shot at the helicopters, the vessels themselves did not go down.
Most notably, no Barretts were recovered at the scene of the massacre.
“Although all of the three helicopters sustained damage from weapons fire, none of the National Guard crews or ATF aboard were injured,” a 1996 House report conducted in tandem by the Oversight and Judiciary Committees found." — NYPost
That happened after the government broke the rules of engagement by initiating hostile actions against an otherwise peaceful group of people. Seventy-seven people died, and most of them burned alive. No knock raids are retarded AF. They probably want this guy in so he can wage war on the American people.
no knock raids only exist because NIXON wanted an excuse to throw the hippies and black panthers in prison.
and now we've all been brainwashed to believe "druggz iz teh evil", and yet the same human short-circuit dopamine mechanisms are still perfectly legal in casinos and gas stations everywhere (just as long as the mob of mobs gets their cut).
david koresh must = pure evil,
otherwise, we done fucked up
big time
and that would mean our "parental government" is worse than hitler
but most people can't think that