RE: What comes first, the large votes or the engagement?

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215 on 7 and I think it's been quieter than usual lately.



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Yeah, exemplary work sir.

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These things are beyond the honest creator/publisher's control. I can't remember a time where I published something hoping nobody would stop in.

I don't think people who've earned a lot, or even a small amount, should be made to feel like they've done something wrong simply because others chose to remain quiet.

I've spent years enjoying Youtube. I think I've left all of about 2 comments in that time. There are probably more people like me who remain quiet on Youtube than those who comment. The reason why it's so quiet here is because of the lack of dedicated consumers and people need to know not all of those people talk. Majority of the accounts on Youtube are not made by creators either. That's a minority.

It's unfortunate some folks on that list are clearly farming rewards and wouldn't care if people commented or not. A quiet day is never my goal.

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It is quieter than in the past and engagement expectations should be lowered accordingly.

However, if you are hitting Hot and the lower Trending ranks frequently without a comment, something is amiss in my opinion.

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Sure. Some foul play perhaps.

I'm noticing even those who do not hit trending consistently do not receive much engagement at times when they do well; earn more. Could this be because many focus on what they feel is "under rewarded" and when they see money beside a post they think "that's enough, not worth looking at."

I wrote a post awhile back, can't remember which one. It was shortly after the EIP went into effect. I went from being earning a couple bucks, but always high engagement, to earning more, almost over night. I noticed early on the increased visibility was not leading to more engagement in most cases. At the time of writing the post, I concluded the paid votes had tarnished the trending and hot page reputation, meaning nobody was looking there anymore. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe earning is simply a turn off now. Many assume or are conditioned into thinking there's no such thing as earning honestly. Even reading some comments here makes me think some honest folks are being lumped into a pile and success frowned upon. I might just be overthinking though.

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Hmm, I'm not sure as to why posts doing well / not so well end up with similar engagement, it could be that people have lost faith in the trending pages and just aren't browsing much.

Following the EIP, there was a noticeable increase in your post valuations. Those able to do that (traf, kevinwong, etc) rarely comment, much the same as other larger accounts.

Even reading some comments here makes me think some honest folks are being lumped into a pile and success frowned upon.

I definitively did some lumping here, and have tried to respond appropriately to those wondering if it's bad they appeared on the lists. I also mentioned there would be some 'one hit wonders' showing up, not a bad thing at all.

Please continue to overthink, unless it makes your bonce hurt :)

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Some curators act more like promoters, working (and getting paid with curation rewards) to place things in the spotlight. Similar to how someone would work to get a band into a venue, then take a cut of the revenue. If the promoter does well, that means the band did well, and so did the venue. Usually a promoter in this sense would use the band's previous efforts to gauge whether or not there's potential to make money, but most likely would not be at the show. That role of promoter is legit in this world. Some artists and entertainers even higher them and call them 'agents', but that role comes with a lot of other responsibilities.

I do believe some faith has been lost in the venue (trending page) and do often see people mention how they don't look at it, mainly sticking to who they follow, plus following the trail of breadcrumbs leading to others when those others make themselves known by commenting on posts they follow. I'll see quite often people mentioning how they started following others simply because of comments left here and there.

I know you're not lumping me into a pile of evil doers. You've been aware of my existence here for a long time and know I'm not looking for shortcuts. I think it would be solid marketing for the platform if success was celebrated (because that typically attracts others who want to work hard to get a taste) but unfortunately, since there is so much riffraff, I can tell you right now, the more you read what people say (not just here), the more you feel hated for doing what nearly everyone else working honestly wants to achieve.

That is why I feel it's important to expose the true riffraff so other people can do well in peace.

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Thanks for editing this one, I might have missed it :/

The first paragraph sort of describes 'tipu' to me. I think that account rewards the 'best' curators, but the best in this case means those who can get in before the big votes - content mostly irrelevant, sadly.

I'll see quite often people mentioning how they started following others simply because of comments left here and there.

It's still the way to the people singing the same tune as you, at least some things haven't changed.

I think it would be solid marketing for the platform if success was celebrated ...

Absolutely, and in with the likely bad in the last list, there are a bunch of people working honestly to get something out of this.

I'll continue exposing the bad from time to time, but should probably swing back to trying to expose some good - Trying to think how the data can help me rustle something up today but I've had a few beers in the sunshine so might just stick to the comments this eve :)

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Tipu is just a game most days. Honest curators acting as promoters in this sense at least puts my mind at ease when I see hundreds of people earning within five minutes. Of course the missing element now, again, is the lack of consumers. So many things here go well but there's always been a missing piece of the puzzle.

I won't be pointing out what I feel is bad any more. Screw that... LOL! That thing got so twisted out of shape. Did you read the "turning a negative into a positive" post I wrote? I slipped that one in on a Sunday when nobody was looking. A good read.

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