Only thing/excuse I could point out for some users in there that I am aware of is that their post is usually an embed to a video/stream where the engagement in the latter may not exist in the post but rather in the chat on the other platform. Same can't be said for 3speak videos though.

Damn it, you are smashing it in the comments section and what is worse - pipped by @galenkp!

Those farm accounts indeed have it easy...

and oflyhigh? How is that possible to have so many posts up in that first list with near zero engagement? $845 with a total of 22 comments is a bit of a joke :D

Aye, there are some bastards up there without a doubt.

Probably a lot of them are liquidising their earnings sharpish too :0D

It would be pretty cool if you could say by your own choice see posts with the most views and most comments! I remember in my Facebook days I’d always click on a post with hella comments so I could see that juicy juicy mango drama

What could also be a cool indicator are other social shares like seeing how many times it was shared on Facebook, Twitter etc

All that social proof is bound to get people to engage more even if rewards aren’t through the roof

Does this list include posts burning rewards and cross-post, btw?

With an average amount of effort connecting to real users, non bots, on here I get about 30 cents per day.

You will find that the interaction with 1 person can equate to multiple accounts in their name.

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This is one of the problems steemit had. People suffer to create great post but end up without any recognition. Sometimes the problem might be on the part of the user but the truth remains that if you don't have Steem power you aren't going anywhere.

Then there are my people. Engaging and leaving their mark on my post, but my upvotes come from generous benefactors who usually don't engage. I guess you can't have it all.

And yes on the Three Speak babble. Their chat doesn't show, so it looks like all that money with none of the fun. I can see Bolom @meesterboom is hanging out here instead of posting the good stuff. Boot him and give him a pen so he can get one going.

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What comes first, the large votes or the engagement?

For most of the Hive blockchain and Steem blockchain users, neither. This is the sad truth.

I raise this on a public discord couple of days back. On oflyhigh.

This is a public forum. So this is the comment I got.

I am not making any judgement here, but I think we have turned into just a bunch of milkers. We punish the small stakeholders as scammers, but when the stake gets higher or the association gets ideal. It becomes legitimate.

Here's an idea, what if we define trending is the number of comments on a post rather than the payout value? Or is it the number of upvotes? What more accurately reflects community support and therefore value to the community, author payout amount or engagement? I personally would say the latter.

215 on 7 and I think it's been quieter than usual lately.

Wow! Ash, this is certainly not a great ad for Hive.
We struggle and battle for hours getting real quality posts out for what?
I have one today at 4.77 and just look at what's going on here.

Totally depressing mate.

My posts could very well end up looking like that, high payouts with little engagement, mainly because most of them are 'Going live' announcements for my livestream.

Man I’m so glad that I didn’t pop out in this article. I’m the EXPERT at attracting high value upvotes AND 0 comments at the same time. In fact I think I’m one of the best out there at this exact peculiar task! But on Hive my pay-outs are not as big to compete with the young generation I guess...but you just wait and see :D!

I'm trying to support the little guys. I'm saving up my stuff to get hive power.

And I thought all along that "auto" were supposed to be the solution for everything...

Some on those list should ideally be funded by dao, others should be chased off the platform or downvoted.

Comments are one measurement.
Ive been thinking of comments + CSI + upvotes.

If we could factor an improved versionof CSI of post upvoters into something (csi is that measure from steemworld/beeme), it would be great.

Examine and evaluate voting activities of accounts upvoting combined with post engagement would get a very accurate sense.

Thanks for compiling these stats @abh12345. Engagement is a complex topic, and it's a bit difficult to measure clearly with a smaller core userbase like we have on HIVE. I have a feeling that as active users increase, engagement becomes more exponential and viral in nature. That would happen with/without any direct incentives for commenting, as people just like to be where the buzz is.

One thing I've noticed is that the more concrete/ more approachable a post is, the higher the engagement tends to be. For example, when I post mostly poetry, it doesn't tend to get too much engagement, but when I write articles on concrete topics, a lot more people weigh in. Obviously, that's especially the case if the post directly poses a question to the audience or provides another clear incentive to engage, like a contest rewarding responses. Then also, people are more likely to comment on users with a higher reputation number and/or larger stake for obvious reasons.

There's been an idea bouncing around in my head recently that wouldn't be a silver bullet for the whole engagement beast but could be really cool... what about having an initiative that directly seeks out and rewards quality comments with a decently weighty curation trail?

P.S.

This post also motivated me to step my commenting game back up, again... I tend to go through phases where I find it hard to have the energy to respond after working on getting content ready, or just tired of staring at the screen all day working on other things, lol. It's something that's really important to me, though, I just neglect giving it my all, sometimes...

The numbers say it all I guess Asher. But alas, like always effort and quality isn't always rewarded. I have to say, I'm pleased to see 14 posts and 396 comments next to my name.

You're smashing the comments too bro! Nice.

The problem is the auto votes, a lot of people have it and thus some of the posts get too many rewards but there are very few readers as such.

A "million" users and this small amount are taking 50k

Total Pending rewards = 387,959 HIVE $143, 314USD

So this small group are taking 60% of rewards, that's "proof of brain" right there 🤣🤣

Ps the @ is missing from your links so they can't be followed directly

Is this a good thing that I saw my name in here? I just turned dolphin after 2 years and 8 months of blogging. I didn't buy any stake. Now I feel guilty for having less engagement in my post.

I'm grateful for being a low profile account. High profile accounts with huge payouts and lots of engagements tend to attract scammers and hackers. It's a double-edge sword. C'est la vie!