Thoughts on the Exchange Bailout

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There are a lot of serious issues coming to a head on the STEEM blockchain right now. What I want to do today is share a bit of my thoughts on how I see the current problem stemming from the actions taken by the exchanges that chose to act against the governance of our blockchain at the behest of Justin Sun and what I view as the only path forward. Let's first take a look at what we know from evidence available on the blockchain and what has been said publicly by the individuals involved.

The three exchanges involved in the coup of the governance of the STEEM blockchain were Poloniex, in which Justin Sun is a part owner, Binance, and Huobi. I think we can consider the motive and decision of Poloniex to participate in this action obvious due to aforementioned detail of ownership. Where things really start to get interesting is in the contradictory statements from CZ Binance and Huobi when publicly called out for participating in what is clearly either criminal negligence or morally-bankrupt behavior.


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As we can see above, CZ is claiming ignorance of any knowledge of Justin Sun's plan to arrest control of the blockchain, while also admitting awareness of the intention to fork the chain. My main point of contention here is where he states "Don’t even know what just happened. Thought it was a regular upgrade/hard fork."

Considering Binance is not only one of the world's largest and most robust centralized exchanges and that they have also been through a STEEM hardfork before, alarm bells should probably be going off when they have to do two things they've never had to do before, which are staking of custodial funds and also setting a witness proxy to help push through this fork. So even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word in what is said in the tweets above, this is at a minimum incredibly negligent behavior.

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Let's move on to Huobi, who decide to address the abundance of questions and accusation leveled at them by members of STEEM community head on. In this Medium post, Huobi claims that the actions they took were due to being informed of an "immediate risk of an attack" on the STEEM network. They claim to have a policy and history of doing things like this in the past to help secure networks "under attack" and claim they will do better to alert users when they resort to these measures in the future.

All of this being said, where does this leave us now? There are multiple exchanges under extreme pressure from the owners of the funds they have now locked for 13 weeks that have as of yet not even initiated a power down to begin the process of liquidating these funds so their rightful owners have the ability to withdraw their tokens from the exchange.

In the meeting between Tron representative, Roy Liu, and the rightful STEEM consensus witnesses , it's made clear that there are attempts being made to create a fork to change the powerdown duration on the STEEM blockchain to alleviate the stress and potential legal troubles facing the parties involved in the coup. Which seems to indicate that the plan all along was to have the exchanges push through this softfork, allowing Sun to seize control of the chain and subsequently push through a hardfork to liquidate the funds the exchanges have now locked.

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My thoughts are that we should under no circumstances allow this fork to go live. The first concern I have is the security risks of releasing a fork without adequate testing, much less one designed and coded by programmers unfamiliar with the STEEM blockchain. My second and arguably more serious concern is that we should not support a bailout of the exchanges that acted against our community governance and I believe that doing so would set a dangerous precedent for the greater crypto movement as a whole.

The vast majority of us that have devoted so much of our time and energy into advancing the cryptocurrency movement have done so because we believe that the world as a whole needs a better system than the corrupt centralized banking systems that are destroying the economies of the world through greedy practices that prey on individuals and erode our freedom and quality of life. To allow these exchanges to get away with their actions and to furthermore assist them in minimizing the repercussions of said actions goes against the very fundamentals of the cryptocurrency movement and devalues everything that we have been working to create. These are my thoughts and opinions on the matter and I encourage everyone to think about the implications of the decisions we make and the examples we set for others during what I consider to be the most trying event that has faced our STEEM community thus far. Much love.



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To allow these exchanges to get away with their actions and to furthermore assist them in minimizing the repercussions of said actions goes against the very fundamentals of the cryptocurrency movement and devalues everything

Agree, 100%.
I also think (after this has been settled), there may be more questions and issues, going forwards

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As always, a well thought out opinion. I appreciate your perspective.

I think one thing that is obvious is that the Tron team really needs to have someone with them and speaking for them that knows the Steem blockchain. Roy and Justin do not understand the concessions (is that the right word?) that are being offered by the witnesses. They also don't understand the requirements of implementing a fork or even the most basic aspects of a power down.

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I think the scariest thing about all of this is seeing how fast they will try to slap together a fork and the lengths they will go through to push it through without any kind of testing. The level of danger to the integrity of the chain in that one stupid decision is astounding.

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Well, I think, like others before them, they don't realize the decentralized aspects of this chain. The top 20 also have to answer to the community in some regard. Another thing that powerful newcomers seem to have trouble with is the idea that they must communicate with the community at large in a respectable manner regardless of the stake that they carry, unless you would rather fight and be harrassed your entire time here.

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I agree completely with your sentiments, but must take issue with your proposed solution.

"My thoughts are that we should under no circumstances allow this fork to go live."

We don't have any such power. The exchanges remain powered up, and in possession of the stake requisite to effecting governance of Steem at their sole option - which they have already demonstrated willingness to do.

We are being allowed the appearance of such power by the exchanges, but that is only an illusion. The decentralization of Steem has always only been an illusion, since during @ned's tenure as CEO of Stinc, he always had the ability to undertake governance of Steem instantly at his sole option. He never did, and that has made the illusion of decentralizaton credible.

That illusion is no longer credible, as it has provably been dispelled.

If the exchanges and Tron execute code that renders their accounts incapable of voting for witnesses, then Steem can become decentralized (to such extent as it has appeared to be in the past, FWIW). Failing that, Steem has become the possession of Tron.

That's all the options there are. Sun has two choices: execute code restricting his accounts, or live with destroying the value of his stake.

We don't have a choice.

Thanks!

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Very true, I am hoping the exchanges got a real awakening with the fallout of their recent actions, but the fact that they aren't powering down makes me think we're likely to see another fork being pushed through. Honestly if they hardfork... I think our only real option is to have the community elected witnesses continue running 22.1 and fork off. It is what it is.

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We don't have any such power. The exchanges remain powered up, and in possession of the stake requisite to effecting governance of Steem at their sole option - which they have already demonstrated willingness to do.

Wrong, thankfully. https://steemd.com/witnesses

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You're saying this figure includes Steem on exchanges?

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That figure is a Steem (the network software) statistic that tracks how many blocks were produced compared to how many witnesses were scheduled recently. It's there mostly to indicate forks, so a forked witness or group of witnesses will automatically stop producing if their software sees that the participation rate is say less than 25%. It's a setting in the software's configuration file.

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Ok. Well, my guess was wrong. I see we have ~half the consensus witnesses, but I fail to see why the exchanges couldn't quickly change that. They remain powered up. Pretty sure that's why.

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There would be serious legal complications to this course of action if the exchanges decide to do this, particularly now that they have publicly stated they would remain neutral.

They made the mistake and it should be on them to make their clients whole WITHOUT resorting to a vote that would change the economic dynamics of the entire chain, particularly when they didn't have permission from their clients in the first place to make such a change.

They would be fools to create that precedent.

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If they need to get liquid Steem, they can use the internal market to buy it with Steem Dollars or buy it for Bitcoin on Bittrex with Bitcoin. It might tempt me to part with some Steem if I see 2016 prices again.

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I wouldn't mind that, but with the order books always being so notoriously thin, I doubt we'll see it. Hopefully with the new exchanges claiming intentions to list us and support us, we might see some movement in that direction.

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As these exchanges haven't powered down i'm of the opinion that something is going on in the background. Maybe tron devs are writing code for a HF and the exchanges will re proxy their votes to get it through. This would free their funds within 24 hours and allow Justin Sun to pay them their 30 pieces of silver.

My advice "Don't trust tron or sun of tron" He's underhand and devious and from his actions so far nothing is out of the realm of possiblity he will sink to to win

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We know they are working on a HF, I linked to the meeting above where they confirm it. I wrote the post to warn people about exactly that, we should not bail them out.

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To be clear, is exchange STEEM voting right now, or powered up but not voting anymore?

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Still powered up, but not voting.

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That's not good. That means if they decide to vote again they may be able to get to 17 while we're sleeping and implement some hasty fork for a quick powerdown that messes up the chain.

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My thoughts are that we should under no circumstances allow this fork to go live.

This.

They made a gamble and got their collective penises stuck in the cardoor. Let them deal with the consequences. Looking squarely at you, @ned.

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He's just lurking around trying to get this token swap to happen so he gets the rest of his money.

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