The horrible morals of humanity

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Yesterday, I went to a family birthday party/dinner.

I'll jump right in. There was a hot and cold buffet for dinner with one kind of soup as a starter. Vegetable soup... with meatballs.

The buffet contained various types of bread, garlic butter, three types of 'salad', french fries, a rice dish, three types of meat dishes and a couple of tiny cups with salad/meat/fruit.

If you did not want to consume animal products, your choices were: tiny fruit cups and french fries, if they were fried in plant-based oil. If you wanted to be on the safe side, your choice was tiny fruit cups.

Only two options, out of an entire buffet, did not include animal products.

There were no vegetables, other than some garnish around the salads and some tiny specks of green and red in the salads. Apparently, we consider meat to be the main part of a hot buffet. Apparently, we'd rather eat our way to heart disease and cancer by abusing and mass murdering a few kinds of living animals, instead of eating the wide, tasty and healthy variety of fruits and vegetables available to us.

What the hell is wrong with humanity?

We'd rather have a bleeding, dead animal on our plates, than eat healthy, vibrant foods.

I'm no saint here, at all. I reluctantly had some potato salad (milk products used) and tried my luck on some bread (possibly milk products or eggs used), next to filling up on vegetable garnish, tiny fruit cups and french fries. All while promising myself that next time, I will tell everyone about my diet preferences.

It was not a fun evening for me, as a person well on her way to plant-based (I don't read all ingredient lists yet, so vegans will still hate me). As I sat there, relucantly having a few bites of potato salad, filling up on french fries, I watched everyone around me mindlessly filling their plates with meat and eating all of these dead animal bodies.

Granted, a cousin told me I was doing better than everyone in that room, including himself, but he said this while eating his dead animals. Another person said we only need a tiny bit of meat each week for health purposes and said he never buys meat and only eats it when others serve it. All while eating his dead animals.

Best was an uncle saying something along the lines of "What's the purpose of living if you can't eat meat every day?". What a sad and cruel person you must be to say something like that. No respect, whatsover. That guy is (brain) dead to me.

The worst thing is: No one questions it! No one questions a buffet filled with all sorts of animal products and hardly any vegetable to be found. We've normalized eating animal products created out of sexual abuse, baby stealing, torture, horrible living circumstances and complete panic and murder at the end.

  • Sexual abuse
  • Baby stealing
  • Torture
  • Horrible living circumstances
  • Complete panic and murder at the end

Read that again. And again. And again. Continue reading that until it sinks in just how morally wrong this is!

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Credits: Farm Transparency Project

We are talking about living animals. Mamals. You know, the same type of animals humans are. Innocent animals who can feel love and joy, but instead, are forced to live a life of fear and pain from the moment they are born. When they are just babies, wanting to be safely with their mothers, but being torn away from her as soon as possible. And why? So we can have a minute of taste sensation? Eating their bodies, their babies, milk meant for their babies. We are stealing everything from them. We reduce them to nothing. These poor, living, innocent creatures!

I can't talk for every single group of people living on this earth, but I know rich, western society. I know we have no excuse. None. No excuse for abusing, torturing and murdering these animals. Their blood is on your hands. Their horrible lifes are your fault. Not one single farmer would 'create' more of these animals, living under such bad circumstances, if there wasn't a market for this. So you are to blame for this. You, and every other sick human still eating and using animal products.

There is no excuse, no valid reason!

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If, like that uncle, meat is your joy in life, you need to reconsider your life. You are a sad and cruel person with a very empty life.

If you still kid yourself by saying animal products are needed for a healthy life, you need to educate yourself. If you really want a healthy life, you should eat plant-based.

If you're still pretending to be a baby cow, you need to get your head checked. Baby cows are the only creatures who need cow milk. Just like human babies are the only ones who need human milk. Just like dog babies are the only ones who need dog milk. Should I continue?

If you dare to say you love animals, you should either stop lying, or stop using their products. Just tell people you only love pets, or go vegan.

If you're still an ignorant man, thinking you're cool and tough for eating meat, I'll help you out of that dream right now: You're a piece of shit. You don't hunt for your food, you don't go through any hardships whatsover. You are a big, fat coward. You go to the store, pick up a pre-packaged, pre-murdered animal, and pay for someone else to commit atrocities in your name. You could just as easily be buying tampons. I think standing up for the voiceless is much more admirable, don't you?

If you want to pretend that plants have the same kind of feelings as these poor, innocent, abused animals, you need to educate yourself. If you don't want to change your opinion on this, you should still eat plant-based, because less plants are 'hurt', compared to how many plants had to die to feed that piece of dead, abused animal on your plate.

If you still think eating plant-based is expensive, you need to get smarter. Beans are a much cheaper source of protein. Mushrooms and nuts aren't that expensive either, compared to a piece of dead animal. Plant-based can be expensive, but so can meat. A junkfood vegan can throw a lot of money away, but a healthy, whole foods vegan doesn't have to break the bank to get themselves fed.

If you are still one of those people who blame vegans for deforestation because of soy, again, educate yourself. Most deforestation happens to grow crops (like soy) to feed animals. Care about saving the planet? Eat plant-based.

If you live in a typical western society, you are a horrible, heartless person if you continue to eat animal products and don't start your journey towards a plant-based life. Heck, you'll have to go full-blown vegan in the end. You know, those 'extremists', who don't want to hurt animals. Ooooh, what horrible people they are...

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How?

I don't agree with vegans judging people who aren't able to stop using every single animal product all at once. I know that's a black and white vision which only harms their cause in the long run. The reality is, we've been programmed and molded to accept this kind of abuse for so long, we are such morons, we didn't even understand that it IS abuse and murder. I know you might need to do this in a couple of steps to make a long lasting change. But start doing it!

If I would have told hubby a few years ago that from that day forward, we would cut all animal products out of our lives, no discussion, he would have probably left me. Making that change was unthinkable to him. Now, I haven't bought meat in over a year and hubby even suggested him trying vegan cheese (What?!). He loves my vegan tosti and even liked the vegan bacon pieces I made last time we needed that kind of replacement. He wouldn't have believed this was possible a few years ago. If he can get this far, so can you!

Need a good suggestion for your barbecue and bacon lovers? Liquid smoke and smoked paprika spices.

The vegan market has grown considerably, even in those few years. You don't have to eat 'dry cartboard' as a meat replacer. There are plenty of great options available. All you have to do is find them. Don't give up because of one bad vegan burger. You'd still eat meat after having a bad dead animal burger, right? So give vegan options the same chance.

There are so many resources online to find good, vegan options in your stores. There are many, MANY recipes to be found for your own, delicious vegan meals. There are cultures around the world where daily meat eating isn't/wasn't a normal thing, so they have plenty of delicious, complete meals that require no meat whatsoever. Try some meatless Indian recipes for example! And if you're not feeling up to the task of learning new recipes, just replace the animal products with vegan options.

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Credits: Animal Liberation.

My own journey

I didn't go plant-based overnight. I wanted to, but I had my husband to consider. I didn't want to do this alone, I wanted him along for the ride, hoping that in the end, he would eat healthier and abuse-free aswell. So, I started with replacing a few simple ingredients.

The meat used in pasta was replaced by vegan alternatives. With all of the sauce, veggies and pastaness going on, you didn't notice any kind of difference anyway. Speaking of sauce: The creamy kind usually requires some kind of milk-based product. So I replaced those with plant-based milks. It really doesn't matter much which kind, if it's just used as an ingredient.

Then, we started trying out plant-based burgers. We found some we hated, we found some we loved. Right now, we have plenty of options to eat 'meat', without the dead animals part. Plant-based burgers, but also fake fish burgers, chicken replacements and plant-based 'meat'balls. We love the ones that are nut-based. They don't even need sauce to taste great!

I replaced my morning yoghurt with a plant-based variety, which was quite a big search for me. I landed on the coconut ones, but most were really expensive. For those who have it in stores: I now use 'Alpro mild & creamy Coconut'. It's the best one price-quality wise. Although I do love Abbot Kinney products aswell, they are just way too expensive to be a fair replacement (but if money is no concern, I certainly recommend trying these).

I kept trying to replace my most beloved animal-based products with vegan options. One after the other, I found great, new products to buy and by now, all that's left in my cabinets is some canned fish I bought ages ago.

The one thing I still struggle with is how products you don't expect it from can still contain animal products. I get very stressed while shopping, so I rush through that experience as quickly as possible and don't read all of the ingredient lists. So by now, I'd say I'm about 95% plant-based, except for some products that seem to contain animal products for no real reason. That's where my food-based journey is now: Learning what processed products unexpectedly hold animal products. Other products, like clothes, is something I still need to learn more about, but there wasn't much shopping to be done these last few years.

Hubby by now has accepted that he won't eat any more meat in this house and the only compromise is that he still wants the 'idea of meat'. So basically meat replacers. He's still a meat eater outside of this house, but that comes down to a burger once every few weeks. I'd say that's better than that divorce idea at the start of this journey, because he'd still be eating meat daily now. I can't get him off of cheese completely, but we try various alternatives now and then, so who knows what will happen in the future.

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Let's wrap this up

In an ideal and just world, everyone would go vegan right now and we would torture and abuse no more animals. In current society, all we can hope for is to open everyone's eyes and get everyone on their own path towards a more plant-based diet.

Sadly, the animal abuse industry is still being supported financially and legally, giving them an unfair advantage. Please help stand up for the innocent, voiceless animals and start voting with your wallet. Buy plant-based and get your morals right.

Don't normalize something that shouldn't be normal. Question things. Make people think. Just look at how much just a small percentage of vegans have already accomplished! They did the hard part: The beginning. Now, let's all bring this home.

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Animals (mostly predatory animals) are also eat other animals. Even birds. But they do not even have to predatory to eat meat. For example even pigeons eat other dead pigeons. And the birds of prey catch, kill and eat them. Some animals eat their prey alive.

And many animals kill just for fun. That is called surplus killing.

This latter includes even mass murder:

In mainland Australia, a single fox once killed around 74 penguins over several days, eating almost nothing.

One leopard in Cape Province, South Africa killed 51 sheep and lambs in a single incident.

Similarly, two caracal in Cape Province killed 22 sheep in one night, eating only part of the buttock of one carcass.

Up to 19 spotted hyenas once killed 82 Thomson's gazelle and badly injured 27, eating just 16%.

People are not the only ones, who torture animals. Animals also torture each other. There are no morals in the nature. No good or bad.

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People are not the only ones, who torture animals. Animals also torture each other.

This is true, although mostly they do this to survive. Humans feel better than animals, humans are ruling this world and humans pride themselves for their ingenuity. Humans have found out they don't need animals to survive. Humans now know that a well balanced, plant-based diet is even healthier than eating animals. Humans also claim to love animals. Humans (all living beings) also face a climate crisis and humans know eating meat takes more of a toll on the earth than eating plant-based.

Humans know better and should act better.

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I will start with my apology. The thing with Soya, you're absolutely right. Grown mainly for animal feed, human use is the by product. Perhaps you don't know why this came about but the rise in use in Soya came about after the BSE crisis. Governments decided that animals needed a VEGAN diet to stop them transmitting Mad Cow disease! I'm pissed because I lost the link to the report that discussed this but I am sure I'll find it again and send you the link.

This post is passionate, and whether I totally agree or not, my admiration to people with such staunch principles is unending.

The answer to the first comment on this post is that humans have consciousness and higher intellect than the rest of the living world which allows us to understand the difference between right and wrong and act accordingly. This would negate the 'animals kill other animals' argument.

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This would also negate your argument that all creatures feel and have emotions in the same way as humans as you intimate in your post. I'm not convinced by that.

Personally, I don't eat a lot of meat and never eat fish or seafood, as I am torn with the abuses in the food industry, but I also don't really like the taste or texture. Dairy...I love milk, cheese and eggs and don't really feel guilt although I do know how things work, I was brought up on a farm. I will still maintain though, that away from the developed world, the majority of the world's population could not afford to eat a plant only diet. I feel there are as many profiteers and scoundrels in the plant-based food industry as there in the meat industry and I hate the food snobs who pay stupid money for organic and 'quality' plant-based products simply to be trendy. I also don't believe we have enough arable land to grow food for everyone, but this could be mitigated by using oceans to cultivate water-based plants, like seaweed.

When it comes to religion, I will despair of agnostics, but such is my hypocrisy, when it comes to vegetarianism and veganism, sorry, I am a terrible agnostic!

Thanks for giving us more (vegan) food for thought and I apologise to you once again.

Best wishes to you and hubby, enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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Thank you for your elaborate answer and big compliments for diving into the soya usage after my last post. We both just go by what we've learned so far and I'm definitely impressed by you getting to the bottom of that one. There's not many people on 'the internetz' who do this nowadays.

I don't have scientific data in my head (and forget mosts facts as soon as they pass through me), but on this subject, I go by what I see and what is logical. Animals are not the same as humans, just like dogs are not the same as cats, cows are not the same as chickens, fish are not the same as pigs, etc.. I know a few facts I've read about pigs being smarter than dogs, dolphins being very smart, cows can have best friends, etc. but ultimately, in one capacity or another, I do believe all animals have feelings. Just look at a couple of videos where animals try to escape their captors in slaughterhouses, try to jump out of moving trucks, cows trying to save their babies from being taken, etc.. How far their understanding goes and how much of it is instinct, doesn't actually matter to me, because they do behave this way for a reason and they do feel physical pain.

The industry does do their very best to keep away prying eyes, so we can all live in ignorance, paying them for murder. Apparently, in some places, it's illegal to share footage of slaughterhouses. So basically, they get away with murder and when they're taped, the one making the video is in trouble, not the ones commiting mass murder. No, they even get paid for it. And somehow, that's 'normal'. Isn't that crazy when you stop to think about it? Humans feel bad when someone tortures a dog, or even just kills one for food. In the developed world, there'd be an uprising. People shouting for the dog torturer's head. One dog. If that is unacceptable to humans, it should be unacceptable no matter what animal it is, especially billions of them.

I will still maintain though, that away from the developed world, the majority of the world's population could not afford to eat a plant only diet.

I will agree with you here. Although away from the developed world, the animals will be treated very differently aswell (both bad and good). A family having to feed themselves off of their own land might have a cow or a couple of goats and chickens and will care well for them, because they depend on them. Once it's time for slaughter, I don't suspect they shove them into a truck filled up to capacity with animals, travelling for hours/days in the blazing sun, after being herded out, terrified, being led to their slaughter. I'd think they kill their own animals right on the spot. It's still a sad thing, but takes away a lot of suffering and it's a survival thing for them. The developed world has 'perfected' the production and with it, has introduced a lot more suffering and terror. The developed world also doesn't need it and should act better if they pretend to be 'good people'.

I wonder if we would have enough land to feed the entire world on a plant-based diet. There must have been studies done there. The need to grow crops for animal feed will fall away, freeing up a lot of land. Even if that weren't suitable for human food, we could regrow a shitload of trees/grass/nature there and maybe clear out a couple of areas better suited for human food. We need a lot more water and plants to get a piece of meat on our plate than we would for a plant-based meal. Sorry I don't have data to back me up right now, but logic dictates this and there is data out there, I'm pretty sure.

When it comes to religion, I will despair of agnostics, but such is my hypocrisy, when it comes to vegetarianism and veganism, sorry, I am a terrible agnostic!

Hah, I had to google that! Agnostics... well I will say there is much more to learn and we don't know everything. I guess I just believe in whatever is properly backed by science and/or what seems logical to me. What I see with my own eyes (although illusions tell us not to trust them blindly).

Thanks for taking the time out to write this reply (and read the post!). I'll happily agree to disagree with you on a few things and am glad to have a civil conversation! Much better than the crap I get on Instagram, where, funnily enough, I usually clash with vegans who judge in black and whites only, not considering the world we live in today.

Best wishes to you aswell and I hope you had a good weekend!

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Not my kinda party. Sorry, I barely glimpsed the second image and came directly here. For what it's worth, had it not been you, I wouldn't have made it this far.

I don't eat those things @playfulfoodie. Hashtag NotMyKindaParty.

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Sorry for the images! Still, not shocking enough to wake up most people I'm afraid :-(
Thanks for making it this far <3

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It's called the food chain and plant protein is not a substitute for animal protein. It is not murder, because it is not an act done for pleasure or violent morbidity.

I respect that (you) are vegan and that you give advice to those who think like you, I am not going to ask you to change, that is part of your freedom, but do not despise people who eat naturally, we are not shits, murderers, etc ... don't screw up our freedom to choose what we want to eat. Everything in excess is bad even if it is not of animal origin.

I imagine that you do not use things that have leather, or transport, because the fuel is of animal origin ...

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Plant-based protein is a complete replacement for animal protein, you just have to be willing to learn.

Killing another living being without their consent certainly sounds like murder to me. If I were to slit your throat and then throw your dead body onto the barbecue and eat it, because I was hungry, it would still be murder. Heck, if I were to do this to your dog or cat, most people would call me a horrible person, but somehow, it's okay for cows, pigs and chickens?

In your talk about freedom, you're forgetting someone: The animal that had to live in horrible circumstances, only to later be dragged across the country (or multiple ones), packed up in a truck, no matter the heat or cold, to then be herded out and led to the slaughter in sheer terror. All so you can eat a dead animal. Where is their freedom? Or are we so far gone, we don't even see them as anything else but products anymore? Is that the 'greatness' of humanity?

Yes, this is how our ancestors lived, but they did this to survive. We don't need meat to survive anymore. We don't need meat to live a long and healthy life. Actually, eating plant-based is healthier. Again: if you're willing to learn.

I understand that the industry tries very hard to keep people away from the harsh reality, so they can keep selling you their products and make a shitload of money while killing billions. Just check out the lives of animals in the meat industry. Check out the life of a dairy cow and all of her stolen babies. Read, watch, listen. If, after all that, you still don't take steps to remove animal products out of your life, I do think you're heartless.

I'm not saying you should go full-out vegan right now. I know humans are set in their ways and need time to change. I do too. But you know that, you've read my article.

Thank you for respecting my choice to no longer finance the abuse and murder of innocent creatures. I'd much rather have you respecting their lives and freedom though.

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I go back and repeat, it is called the food chain, it is not murder, it is the natural order.
If dinosaurs existed and ate people, would you claim their right to life and would they change? like a tiger with a deer ...
I have never killed an animal but I love chicken, that does not make me the worst person as you say, I have seen many cases as children of vegan parents who die from denying reality.
You should not insult people who are not vegan, we just do not think the same, and that is not bad, it is bad that I insult you and you insult me.
You didn't answer the questions I asked in the previous comment either.
I could accept your idea of ​​not killing animals a bit but for hunting, it makes no sense to hunt for sport.
Look at the movie avatar, look when they hunt an animal, it's a great way of thinking that they gave to those characters.

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There is nothing natural about our current meat consumption. You can try to drag wild animals into this conversation, but you and I both know humans don't live like wild animals do. Humans are able to think about consequences for their actions and our decision to eat meat isn't based on a decision between life or death. Humans have plenty of available alternatives. I can see you want to stick your head in the sand to justify eating dead animals, but the fact is that you pay people to kill other living beings for a moment of sensory pleasure. You don't need animal products to live a healthy life, you should eat plant-based if you want to live a healthy life.

It is bad to unnecessarily kill other living beings. Them not being able to call you out on it just makes it easier for you to ignore it. Other humans calling you out on it might be seen as a nuisance, but I do wonder why you are trying to defend an industry that represents so much violence, abuse and death. You could just tell me you're not strong or flexible enough to change your ways and leave it at that, but for some reason, you're advocating for more pain. Just tell me how you justify this, when you can just as easily walk into the store to buy beans, nuts or mushrooms, instead of a pre-packaged, pre-murdered, dead animal.

If you want answers to your questions, you should have read my post. They are all in there. You haven't read it all, otherwise you wouldn't have called me vegan.

Oh and by the way, I have no intention of insulting people who aren't vegan perse. I know the industry likes to hide the dirty truth and most people grow up with a diet filled with animal products, all while hearing the lies that it is healthy. I do, however, judge people who have learned the truth about these things and still refuse to change. I don't care how long it takes you to change, as long as you make the decision to move towards a future with less violence and death. As long as you start making steps towards a life where you don't support these industries.

As for trying to poke holes in my lifestyle: What if I was someone who ate a whole pig each and every day? Kicked my non-existing dog every chance I got? Flew over the world and back every darn weekend? That would just make me a bad person, it would make no difference in the classification of right and wrong. Paying people to kill other living being for a moment of sensory pleasure would still be bad. Kicking dogs would still be bad. Flying excessively would still be bad. I am not a posterchild for good behaviour, nor am I a saint. We are all responsible for our own behaviour. Pointing at others doesn't let you off the hook.

We cannot live without using any natural resources. No one can. We should still try the best we can to live in harmony with our one and only home and try not to hurt others we share this planet with. I know I am trying to do this and learning along the way. Are you?

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Of course I read it, you are the one who did not read my questions.
Anyway, I do it because I like to eat meat.
Someone who eats a pig every day does not last a month alive.
I also eat salads, grains, pasta ... and as I said before, everything in excess is bad, even the water.
That is the reality, is it cruel? Yes, like the lion eating a deer, it is natural and cruel, but things are like that, it's okay that you don't like it, but don't label people like me as violent and everything you say.
This topic also reminds me of guinea pigs, now we will have to kill sick people to start the tests of new drugs, because it is cruel to animals, but isn't killing sick people more so?
In the end, this is the world, and the more they want to "improve" it, things only get worse, I mean that of privileges to the minorities and sending to hell with the majority is silly. I have always thought that the United States has problems of racism because calling a black man is a crime or insulting him, it is stupid, if it is a crime, it should be for everyone; And they all grow up with that nonsense in their heads.
Well I deviated from the topic, but are some of the things that I think about what the hell is wrong with the world?

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I agree with you that there's a lot wrong in this world. I also know there's little you or I can do to right most of these wrongs, although we should aim to be a good example. There is one thing we can easily do though: stop supporting animal cruelty. It would mean working towards less pain, less violence, and less of a strain on this world's natural resources.

You keep telling me I can't say bad things about meat eaters, but the fact is that meat eaters pay others to abuse and kill sentient beings. So once they are made aware of the cruelty that goes on inside the meat and dairy industry and they still don't decide to take steps towards a more plant-based diet, you'd better believe I will judge them and blame them for all of the pain and suffering they continue to support.

We abuse some of the most kind and peaceful creatures for our own sensory pleasures, because they give us the least amount of resistance. Because it's easiest and most profitable. Try finding people crazy enough to work on a lion dairy farm. They will SHOW you how wrong you're being. We lord over these kind, sweet animals, hurting them when it is not even necessary. When plenty of alternatives are as readily available as their dead bodies. We take the only life they will ever have for a few moments of pleasure. Because we 'like to eat meat'. Stop defending this. This is one of those things that is wrong in this world. It is not 'normal', it's just a habit we need to break.

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But it is as normal as a lion hunting its prey, it is normal me friend, it is cruel and normal. it's fair? It is not, just like life. I fully understand your point, but I do not support it, I do not want to change that in my life, it is one of the few things that makes me feel good in this shitty part of the world where I live.
I hope you can change your world enough to make it better for you and your people.
despite disagreeing, I liked this discussion ✌️

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The way things are factory farmed I don't agree with...

But I can't deny myself what I have evolved to eat.. I'm not sure we'd have canine teeth if we were meant to be strictly herbivore, and hunting up until we started animal husbandry and taming things to factory farm down the road was pretty fair for all parties.. Certainly not how it's done most the time these days sadly however.

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Yeah, the way things are now, there's nothing natural about it anymore. For anyone depending on meat to survive, I accept that they have to eat animal products. People like that though, they tend to understand the sacrifice they take from this animal and it's a very different way of living. Us, in developed countries with a fully stocked supermarket around every corner... We don't need meat for survival. Here, hardly anyone ever even thinks about the fact that they have a dead animal on their plate and that this animal had to suffer and die for their few moments of pleasure. There is no gratitude, there is no understanding of our major abundance. It is a heartless act which I feel should be more widely known. Anyway, studies show a well balanced plant based diet is healthier and animal products come with plenty of downsides to our health. For us, it's so easy* to decide to be compassionate and eat plant based. It doesn't harm us, it helps the planet and it doesn't hurt nearly as many animals as animal agriculture does. Everything keeps evolving and if we feel superior to animals for our 'big brains', we should act the part and evolve past this horrible practice.

Oh, and our teeth hardly compare to canine. I think we'd need to actually have vampire teeth to really make that a fair comparison, but mine aren't that long and pointy 😊

*I say easy, but I know it's hard to change a habit. With our fully stocked stores and many replacements, it is easy enough now. I did need to do this in steps aswell, starting with replacing ground beef in pasta's. There's replacers for it and you hardly know the difference, so that's a quick win. Same goes for milk as an ingredient. There's so many plant-based alternatives which work just as well. Introduce a meatless day, go from there... Now that I haven't eaten meat for a year or so, I don't miss it. I still like the smell when walking past a place that sells meat, but you know what? That's because the spices smell great. That has nothing to do with meat. Just rub em on something else ;-)

P.S.: Liquid smoke seems to help men adjust! For the 'hmmm, bacon' crowd 😅

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