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I have a simpler definition:

white privilege is thought-terminating cliché which doesn't actually exist

I guess dictionary,com joins the ranks of unreliable dictionaries. And no, the disclaimer right at the end doesn't count:

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If the disclaimer where placed before the definition it would be acceptable. But not at the end,


What Does white privilege Mean? | Pop Culture by Dictionary.com

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Wow, that disclaimer is really hard to find. (what with all the adverts popping up and flying around)

White privilege:

Your father had a strong work ethic and so it is assumed that you do too.
It is assumed that you have strong judeo-christian values (such as that aforementioned hard working)
It is assumed that you had decent schooling, because your forefathers paid for the schools with their sweat and tears.

And that is what white privilege is.

Kinda like women are assumed to be good mothers.
It doesn't take too long before these assumptions get questioned.

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It means if you're "white" your grandparents weren't denied home-loans simply because of their skin color.

It means if you're "white" your grandparents and parents weren't the target of laws specifically designed to destroy your core family unit.

None of this is the average "white" person's "fault", they are not individually "responsible" for the "privilege" they've unwittingly enjoyed.

However, there should be some acknowledgement that many of their neighbors did not enjoy the same unspoken, invisible "privilege".

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It means if you're "white" your grandparents weren't denied home-loans simply because of their skin color.

It means if you're "white" your grandparents and parents weren't the target of laws specifically designed to destroy your core family unit.

None of this is the average "white" person's "fault", they are not individually "responsible" for the "privilege" they've unwittingly enjoyed.

However, there should be some acknowledgement that many of their neighbors did not enjoy the same unspoken, invisible "privilege".

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"White Privilege" is a Bolshevik Marxist Weaponized attack label. It exists in the minds of the mind controlled, and has no place in Logic.

"It means if you're "white" your grandparents weren't denied home-loans simply because of their skin color."

Oh, they weren't? Do you mean they were only denied based on their 'class' status?
How about my parents? Were they denied because of their skin color or something else?
What about me? Did I get a home 'Loan' of fiat, because I am white colored? Or did it have something to do with an 820 credit score?
The blacks that DID get home loans, and were homeowners during the time my grandparents were not able to acquire one, did they get one because of...hmm, I can't logically think of why...

None of this is the average "white" person's "fault", they are not individually "responsible" for the "privilege" they've unwittingly enjoyed.

This is more marxist, illogical, tripe. Applying 'Guilt' across the board, is not only ridiculous, but a detrimental attack applied by foreign marxist Communists. Saying it isn't 'their fault' is still, nothing but an attack, designed to castrate the European race into self-hate/guilt/suicide.

Why don't you do an experiment. Move to China for a while. Start a movement telling them they have too much "Chinese Privilege". See if they call you a Baizuo :)

Baizuo (pronounced "bye-tswaw) is a Chinese epithet meaning naive western educated person who advocates for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority. A baizuo only cares about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment while being obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they import backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism.

However, there should be some acknowledgement that many of their neighbors did not enjoy the same unspoken, invisible "privilege".

I completely disagree.
I recommend undoing some of the cultural marxist programming that has shaped so many of our realities, making us think that this is 'our thoughts' when they are not. Acting on falsehoods, lies, fake history, causes us to think we are doing things that are 'of ourselves' and they are simply not. It takes a breakdown of self, a 'surrender' if you will, that you accept that you have been fooled...It starts there.

I don't listen to anything 'Adam Ruins', either, for the reason I stated above. His delivery of cultural marxist brainwashing is catchy and 'comedy' which makes it sink into the masses without being detected for what it is....Like the Daily Show, and well, anything on the mainstream...

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I agree with you that it's important to keep in mind that only 2% of "white people" owned slaves.

And I hope we can agree that there's no reason for the average "white person" to feel an ounce of guilt about slavery because they did nothing to promote it themselves.

HOWEver, "white people" have gained an advantage (however slight in some cases), generally, especially the Brits and Americans, from the historic oppression of the "other".

This is not a new phenomenon. The Hindus practically worship their history of systemic racism that spans thousands of years. The Egyptians and Romans built empires on the backs of slave labor.

Can you understand the plight of the characters in movies like "FIRST BLOOD" and "FALLING DOWN"?

2 minutes,

2 minutes,

Now imagine millions of people who feel the exact same way.

Sure their frustration should be focused on the BILLIONAIRES.

Sure, but our owners are very skilled at TURNING US AGAINST EACH OTHER.

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HOWEver, "white people" have gained an advantage (however slight in some cases), generally, especially the Brits and Americans, from the historic oppression of the "other".

We have a lot to 'undo' in the programming department!
First of all, when you say "White People" are you referring to Slavic, Germanic, Caucasian, Latin, Turkic, Celtic, Scandinavian.....or can't you tell?

We'll start there ;)

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I'm putting quotes around the term "white people" specifically because it is an extremely unscientific catch-all that generally refers to non-latin, non-asian, non-african, non-middle eastern, non-native relatively lighter skinned people of very generally western european ancestry.

Of course there was a time when the Italian immigrants were not considered "american".

And of course there was a time when the Irish immigrants were not considered "american".

And of course there was a time when the Greek immigrants were not considered "american".

And there was even a time when the German immigrants were not considered "american".

Thinking about it some more, it's almost like "white" (in modern lingo) is now a stand-in for "real american" (in stark contrast to "native american").

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So then you see how it is socially acceptable to generalize white/black? Not good. There are over 50 countries in Africa. Many of the African people VASTLY VARY between countries. Just like 'Europeans'.
The most heinous attack on our peoples was done by the Communist Banker class, and that was to say "White People", "Black People". They effective eviscerated ALL of our roots with a phrase. Without roots, you get this shitshow.

And there was even a time when the German immigrants were not considered "american".

And after they were considered American, the usa removed that status in the snap of a finger, and put Germans into Concentration Camps (along with the Japanese), and stripped them of everything.

Thinking about it some more, it's almost like "white" (in modern lingo) is now a stand-in for "real american" (in stark contrast to "native american").

I don't get or see that at all. I only see that with 'foreigners', not blacks. Blacks are considered 'real americans' if they are patriotic. Whites are considered Communist Demons if they support communism.

Hollywood has melted the brains of most. Discussions like this are an uphill battle at best. The programming is so vast that it mostly cannot even be recognized by the programmed, let alone addressed.

I recommend making #1 goal for everyone, to first undo the programming, so that objectivity can be, at least sniffed.

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Without roots, you get this shitshow.

Excellent point.

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And after they were considered American, the usa removed that status in the snap of a finger, and put Germans into Concentration Camps (along with the Japanese), and stripped them of everything.

Along with Italian Americans. Even Joe DiMaggio's parents were thrown into an internment camp.

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I recommend making #1 goal for everyone, to first undo the programming, so that objectivity can be, at least sniffed.

I appreciate your assistance.

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I don't listen to anything 'Adam Ruins', either, for the reason I stated above.

I don't think Adam's 100% "right" about "everything", maybe closer to 65%, but I also enjoy entertaining viewpoints that I disagree with.

He made a very interesting point, in front of a live audience in Portland, that their city was founded as a white supremacist utopia and remains to-this-very-day the least diverse city in the united states.

I found that interesting.

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white supremacist utopia

Can you define what that means please?
I get called a 'white supremacist' if I say the phrase, "The european race has some great accomplishments"

And the hypocrisy tells me who I am dealing with at the very moment it happens. It takes all my patience not to throw rationality out the window.

Was Portland literally sanctioned and set up to be 'for whites only' or did it just declare that it is a utopia for 'white supremacists'?
I personally, would like to live with my own race, and visit others.

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When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926.

https://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040

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I knew about the constitution, but I wasn't aware of anything specific to 'Portland'.

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I'm pretty sure that would just be redundant.

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Things are just starting to heat up.
Castrated, weak, soft, GUILT RIDDEN whites, now think it is 'racist' to even defend themselves, in any way...
Time to start changing the tune.

https://peakd.com/hive-181335/@tonygreene113/tztedtyv

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Statistically speaking, you are much more likely to be the victim of someone of the same color.

Statistically speaking, you are much more likely to be the victim of someone in your own family (or someone you know).

This type of sample-biased fear fuel only serves the agenda of our OWNERS.

Let's stop playing their games and shoveling money into their pockets.

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Statistically speaking, you are much more likely to be the victim of someone of the same color.

That's true, but the statement overlooks the massive difference in Black on White crime:

https://www.aim.org/special-report/black-criminals-white-victims-and-white-guilt/

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You're doing it again.

This is about POOR PEOPLE.

POOR PEOPLE are disillusioned with "the system" and will take matters into their own hands (like BATMAN).

Just like in "FIRST BLOOD", just like in "FALLING DOWN".

If someone injures a family member or friend, they're not going to "call the police" because the police won't do anything to fix the problem and will most likely make matters (far) worse.

Do you know what causes POVERTY?

Try targeting men for a fabricated "non-crime" like recreational drug use.

This creates "single parent homes" and effectively makes sure it's almost impossible for most of these targeted men to get any sort of decent paying job for the rest of their lives.

Try red-lining real-estate so all the POOR PEOPLE are clustered in the same areas.

These aren't the only causes of POVERTY, but they're certainly significant contributors.

Even "targeting the police" is MISSING THE POINT.

The police are simply brainwashed lapdogs of the OWNERS.

Many police officers are living barely above the poverty level themselves.

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You're doing it again.
This is about POOR PEOPLE.

Doing what again? I already said it was class warfare. You referenced statistics.

POOR PEOPLE are disillusioned with "the system" and will take matters into their own hands (like BATMAN).
Just like in "FIRST BLOOD", just like in "FALLING DOWN".

I don't think those movies are totally related to this. Falling down stands on its own. Batman was rich. Rambo was a war vet killer.

Try targeting men for a fabricated "non-crime" like recreational drug use.

Both the white and black races are targeted. Ever heard of Meth? How is this about one race being 'targeted' and then you say that I am 'Doing it again'? Yes it is about Poor people this is class war.

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This creates "single parent homes" and effectively makes sure it's almost impossible for most of these targeted men to get any sort of decent paying job for the rest of their lives.

"Targeted Men"? Who are you referring to? The Blacks or the "poor"?
Communism's #1 goal was "Destruction of the Family Unit". It only used blacks to be a sledge hammer against whites, while gutting the white father simultaneously. If you ignore the entire media attack on whites, and fathers, then you are disingenuous.
Best way to destroy the 'black' family, was removal of the father, and this was done with 'GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE'. Welfare. Welfare destroyed the black family. Our government pays women for each child they have (if the father is GONE). This is the systematic destruction caused by the democrat policies disguised as "benefits". Our system REWARDS women to remove their children's father. Our country has NO MORAL FIBER left at all, and promiscuity is the killer of families. So is Neo-Feminism. All these things were put in place to destroy the FATHERS, not Black or white but BOTH.

The races react to their treatment differently though.

Try red-lining real-estate so all the POOR PEOPLE are clustered in the same areas.

You mean like Trailer parks full of the millions of 'white trash'?

Why do you not apply your points to BOTH races? You excuse the bad treatment of one, even though both have the same treatment. This is Media Programming. Try applying your point to both sides. Try undoing some of that programming. You have no idea how bad the 'whites' have been treated. You are letting the main culprits off the hook. The BANKER class is at war with whites and blacks. Their age old strategy is to sit back and make their enemies fight each other.

Many police officers are living barely above the poverty level themselves.

When they make well above average pay, and live barely above poverty, then you can see this slave system applies to all except for the Chosen.

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Why do you not apply your points to BOTH races? You excuse the bad treatment of one, even though both have the same treatment.

Who do you believe I've "excused"?

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It means if you're "white" your grandparents weren't denied home-loans simply because of their skin color.

It means if you're "white" your grandparents and parents weren't the target of laws specifically designed to destroy your core family unit.

None of this is the average "white" person's "fault", they are not individually "responsible" for the "privilege" they've unwittingly enjoyed.

However, there should be some acknowledgement that many of their neighbors did not enjoy the same unspoken, invisible "privilege".

Excusing the attack against 'whites' and making excuses for why one side is worse off than the other, when I am showing you that both methods are applied to both 'races'. I have given matching examples of every point you have made about one of the races. Have you thought about those points?

Have you seen how it is 'automatic' to 'excuse' the systematic destruction of 'whites', and instead, blame them for the crimes of the Banker class?

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I'm still not detecting any sort of "attack on whites".

I'm simply stating facts.

Jim Crow laws may not be "in effect" today, but they have left a detectable legacy.

None of this is the "fault" of any of the average "whites", and there's no reason to feel "white guilt" about it.

But denying the invisible "privilege" of being seen as "white" does nothing but further divide our fellow citizens.

Have you seen how it is 'automatic' to 'excuse' the systematic destruction of 'whites', and instead, blame them for the crimes of the Banker class?

Who exactly is orchestrating "the systemic destruction of whites"?

And aren't the majority of "banksters" capitalists (not commies)?

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Jim Crow laws may not be "in effect" today, but they have left a detectable legacy.

Many blacks say that life under Jim Crow laws was far better. They had homes and families, and morals. Are you saying that life is better now for 'blacks' since then?

But denying the invisible "privilege" of being seen as "white" does nothing but further divide our fellow citizens.

You are again, ignoring the Logical point, in favor of an Illogical fairy tale. You are pushing Marxist narrative at the expense of Truth. It is this narrative which is literally DESIGNED to cause the divide you speak of, while simultaneously weakening both 'whites and blacks'. You are ignoring the purveyors of the entire charade and their goals.

Who exactly is orchestrating "the systemic destruction of whites"?

The Loxist banker bolsheviks.

And aren't the majority of "banksters" capitalists (not commies)?

LOL, no. They are all communists/zionists/bolsheviks and they want you to think that 'capitalism' is the problem. Define capitalism then. Go ahead. You will see that we have never had a 'Capitalist' system. Only by name. Only by Lie. Capitalism does not 'bail out bankers'. It does not subsidize giants. So, why do you call this 'capitalism'? Because the narrative.

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LOL, no. They are all communists/zionists/bolsheviks and they want you to think that 'capitalism' is the problem. Define capitalism then. Go ahead. You will see that we have never had a 'Capitalist' system. Only by name. Only by Lie. Capitalism does not 'bail out bankers'. It does not subsidize giants. So, why do you call this 'capitalism'? Because the narrative.

Ok, "not-capitalism" sounds right, but they don't seem to be very "communist" either.

They seem more like a purely MOBSTER ORGANIZATION.

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In the USA we have more accurately 'Corporatism'. However even that is just a disguise too. We are ruled by foreign hand, from the shadows, using narrative and emotions to cause division, so that none are ever the wiser.

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The USA is and always has been controlled (owned) by LONDON (banks).

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The USA is and always has been controlled (owned) by LONDON (banks).

Yes indeed, which is why I look at the hands controlling the 'City of London' too, as their tentacles are all over their 'black box', and all over 'black (and white) lives'
Now, who controls the hands controlling the Banks? Do you think this is a legitimate British government (City of London)?

"Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws." This is the maxim of the house of Rothschilds, and is the foundation principle of European banks.
This quote was used in The Magazine of Wall Street and Business Analyst(November 10, 1934 p.67) and in Money Creators (1935) by Gertrude M. Coogan.

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I think we're on the same page.

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Great!

USA = Military Arm
Crown = Financial Arm
Vatican = Spiritual Arm

This is currently be reorganized. Hence the Plandemic, Riots, etc..

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GLOBAL CRISIS = GLOBAL GOVERNMENT

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Indeed and

GLOBAL GOVERNMENT = GLOBAL CRISIS

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Nice one.

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Then we agree that 'Diversity' is sacred.
Perhaps you can see why cramming everyone/thing together into 'one thing' will eliminate that Diversity.
I like different cultures. However -They- aim to create 'one' culture for all, except for the wizards manning Oz from behind the curtain!

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And I still don't see how any of that is "a problem" (eat the rich).

And I still don't see how any of that is "different" than it already is today.

And I still don't see how any of that is "different" than it was 10,000 years ago.

We already have "one culture", it's called "MONEYMONEYMONEYMONEY".

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Ah, I see your dilemma now in our programming...
You think 'money is Evil'...
Simple as that no?

So you don't think a difference between Fiat and Non-Fiat?
Or 'Love of' Money? Does this matter to you?

"We" are not all the same.
Why 10,000 years ago. Can you be more specific as to what type of monetary (if any) system 'we' used then?

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It's difficult to imagine any "truly fair" monetary system.

Is a monetary system based on pure metal, "better" (or less wrong) than a fiat system?

Well, yes, probably.

But isn't metal simply "fiat" for FOOD, CLOTHING, AND SHELTER ("security" and "entertainment" and "status")?

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Is a monetary system based on pure metal, "better" (or less wrong) than a fiat system?

"Precious Metal" based is "Better" for the "people", as it is like Crypto's PoW model. Each piece of "Precious Metal" is attached to "work/energy". It thus cannot be Copied out of thin air from nothing (COUNTERFEIT).

"Fiat" - the controller of the issuance, controls the World. This is "Better" for the issuing Cabal.

PREFERENCE is based on every individual which they prefer.
HISTORY is not full of 'Fiat' based 'Monetary' systems and therefore, has had many of those 'banker resources' devoted to Obfuscating true History.

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We seem to be in general agreement on this point.

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But denying the invisible "privilege" of being seen as "white" does nothing but further divide our fellow citizens.

"white privilege" =/= "white guilt"

I feel like you're missing this.

The "whites" didn't "cause" the plight of the "others".

But they do reap the rewards, some more than others obviously.

For example, your grandparents were poor.

Why were they poor?

Were they stupid?

Were they lazy?

I'm going to guess they were neither of these.

Why then? Why do you think they were poor?

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"But they do reap the rewards, "

You'll have to explain this better if I am to continue answering. You are ignoring my previous points about 'Chinese Privilege'. 'African Privilege'. 'Japanese Privilege'. Etc...
You'll have to explain why it is ok for those 'races' to have Privilege in their countries, but not for ANY 'western' state to have it.
You'll have to ask yourself, why you hold any merit to the idiotic racist term 'white' privilege, against all logic.

Do you just hate white people? Rhetorical. I think you don't, but it looks like you do, from an outsider perspective. You are repeating the very weaponized terminology that I told you was there to sledge hammer logic.

"Why then? Why do you think they were poor?"

Were they stupid?

Yes

Were they lazy?

No. Work smart not hard is my motto. Save and invest. Fix it if it's broke. Change it if you don't like. My grandparents did what they were told was right. Hard Work, but not smart work.

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You are repeating the very weaponized terminology that I told you was there to sledge hammer logic.

I'm not the one making posts that further propagates the "mind worm" "meme" of "white privilege".

I'm not "trying to stop it", I'm trying to defuse it.

It's designed to outrage the "whites", and you certainly seem "outraged".

So it appears to be "working as designed" (according to your 1912 blueprint).

I'm not "outraged" by the term, I don't embrace it, I certainly don't use it, and I try not to spread it.

But I find it perfectly understandable that "non whites" might interpret the relative, general, "advantage" (actually a lack of disadvantage) that their "white" neighbors seem to unwittingly enjoy (regardless of whether or not that "advantage" is "real" or simply perceived as "real").

They're eager to lash-out at anyone they perceive is doing better than they are.

This is human nature.

Do you remember that old movie where everyone opens their windows and screams into the night, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gunna take it anymore!"

We just need to try and coax their collective "rage" in the general direction of the true villains.

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This is human nature.

Can you provide EVIDENCE of this claim? I would LOVE to see it, because I very much disagree.

Do you remember that old movie where everyone opens their windows and screams into the night, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gunna take it anymore!"

It is called 'Network' 1974.

I'm not the one making posts that further propagates the "mind worm" "meme" of "white privilege".

If this is what you think. Then we have reached the end.
This is why I don't bother explaining this usually, to folks who are solidified in the 'Matrix'.

I've only scratched the surface but if you are thinking that I am propagating a meme, then I am finished.

Thanks for the conversation. Enjoy the show coming!

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They're eager to lash-out at anyone they perceive is doing better than they are.

This is human nature.

Can you provide EVIDENCE of this claim? I would LOVE to see it, because I very much disagree.

France, 1789.

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Haha, no sorry, I meant Evidence of Human Nature causing that.
Evidence, that proves that it is Human "Nature".

Why do I need this? Because I don't believe in 'Human Nature'. I have been telling you how controlled we are from cradle to grave. Why would I think that is 'natural'? I don't think it is. I think we have been 'programmed' to be that 'nature'. I think we don't have a single clue what human nature really is. The ones that hold all the keys do, but not the 'Profane'.

What evidence did you use to declare that it is 'Human Nature'?

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Our oldest stories are about jealousy and competition.

This is reflected in the behavior of many animals.

Animals compete for a perceived "ideal mate" and also compete for status markers (like territory).

Certainly some animals adopt more "cooperative" strategies out of necessity (or herd instinct), but they still take whatever they think they can safely "get away with".

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Our oldest stories are about jealousy and competition.

2 things on that.

"our stories" were handed to us "by them". What stories are you going by? Certainly not the ones I am. I spend a large chuck of life hunting down that which 'they' don't want you and I and all of us to see.

Are you ever going to look at what I said? That everything you 'think' you 'know' has been programmed for you? You are asking me questions and ignoring some of my content, to be comfortable?

but they still take whatever they think they can safely "get away with".

Some do. If you think that is what they all do, you are telling yourself that you are nothing but an animal and that is how you should do it.
It then appears that 'Greed' is your primary focus.
There are those of us who do not 'get away with things' just because we can. We know that we cannot hide from the essence of our 'self'.

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There are those of us who do not 'get away with things' just because we can. We know that we cannot hide from the essence of our 'self'.

So, I'm guessing you've figured out how to live without contributing to any CORPORATE MOBSTERS.

I haven't been quite as lucky.

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So, I'm guessing you've figured out how to live without contributing to any CORPORATE MOBSTERS

No. I have figured out that I Know Nothing.
I have figured out that I need to increase my Vigilance.
I have figured out to 'know what I do'.
I have not given up and just gone along to get along (succumb to evil).
If I must be forced to 'Contribute' to Corporate Mobsters, I express my verbal Non-Consent, and an attempt to dissolve my 'reliance' on 'Evil'.

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Many blacks say that life under Jim Crow laws was far better.

Many East Germans said life was far better before the fall of the Berlin wall.

Do you understand what kind of logical fallacy this is (appeal to emotion, appeal to ignorance)?

Just because some people prefer one system over another, doesn't make that system inherently better.

Your terms, like "better" need to be made EXPLICIT and explain specifically how it relates to the system under scrutiny.

We need to do better than to simply present an appeal based on the OPINIONS of others.

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Do you understand what kind of logical fallacy this is (appeal to emotion, appeal to ignorance)?

You made the claim that they left a 'detectable legacy'. How again is it fallacious to specify that some approved? When everything in the narrative says that 'blacks were freed from Jim Crow'. You are going to ignore the point/truth, because you think you detected a fallacy? That is called the Fallacy Fallacy. So many blacks claim to like Jim Crow laws better than this marxist shit show they have now. Was it 'better'? That is their opinion but don't make it look like they were worse off before, when what we have before us now is so much more harmful overall. That is why I pointed it out.

We need to do better than to simply present an appeal based on the OPINIONS of others.

The appeal of themselves. I don't generalize like you are. I specify that THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS within the SAME RACE. So I am not going to debate on just 'one' opinion without taking all sides into account.

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So many blacks claim to like Jim Crow laws better than this marxist shit show they have now.

This (second hand) OPINION is a red herring.

It makes it sound as if you might be suggesting that Jim Crow be re-instated.

I don't think that's what you're suggesting, but you're making it very difficult for me to find "your point".

So, (IFF) I accept your suggestion that Jim Crow was awesome (THEN) what is your "preferred policy"?

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It is only a 'red herring' if you ignore the remaining context

Was it 'better'? That is their opinion

Before I am able to even begin to explain the fallaciousness of this all, can you at least let me know, why you quoted only part of the explanation, to make it suit your perception, against what my intended meaning was?

It makes it sound as if you might be suggesting that Jim Crow be re-instated.

Only, if you make it so, by taking it out of context. Are we witnessing 'Confirmation Bias'?

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I thought I made it abundantly clear that I wish to give you as much "benefit of the doubt" as I possibly can.

I would like to believe we're simply intercommunicating and I'm asking if you'd be willing to clarify.

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I understand that and agree, but what I am asking is why would you say:

It makes it sound as if you might be suggesting that Jim Crow be re-instated.

When I clearly, said:

Was it 'better'? That is their opinion

Do you see the fallacy? If you did not leave out my next sentence, you would not have 'heard' that "I" might be suggesting anything at all, but that those I spoke of, are.
So why would you associate that 'will' to 'mine'?
This is just one example. As a LogicZombie, you should hopefully be able to see why that would be, less than Logical.

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"I" might be suggesting anything at all,

And that's why I'm requesting clarification.

Every word you speak reveals a motive.

To claim otherwise is to suggest you're spouting random, meaningless gibberish.

For example, if I suggested that some people or even many people reported being "worse off" after the fall of the Berlin wall, wouldn't you think I was suggesting that the wall should have been left up?

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For example, if I suggested that some people or even many people reported being "worse off" after the fall of the Berlin wall, wouldn't you think I was suggesting that the wall should have been left up?

No I wouldn't. I don't do the Black or White fallacy if I don't have to.
My pointing out that 'some' think 'good' and some think 'bad', means that it is not a universal outlook. And by me Clarifying what I did, that it was "THEIR opinion" not mine, was to get you to not pigeon hole what I said as "MY" opinion when it was no such thing. I am merely reporting that it is 'debated' whether good or bad between those affected by it. I 'corrected' and re-pointed to my statement "Was it 'better'? That is their opinion".

Simply that we can't assume that 'everyone' thinks it is bad, nor good. Tis a mix. An important mix in my opinion. A very good start to delve into the Core issues that are detrimental, instead of the Red Herring that we are all sucking down :)

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My pointing out that 'some' think 'good' and some think 'bad', means that it is not a universal outlook.

Yeah, opinions on ANY subject will most likely lack general uniformity.

Great. Perhaps we can try and focus on cutting our way through the forest of "opinion" in search of the "facts"?

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Great. Perhaps we can try and focus on cutting our way through the forest of "opinion" in search of the "facts"?

Agreed. How do you suppose we get to the 'facts' when we stick to our 'Confirmation Bias' due to our submission to our 'Cognitive Dissonance'?

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The only way to combat "the bias bias" is to acknowledge it exists, and to engage in rigorous CIVIL DEBATE.

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When they make well above average pay, and live barely above poverty, then you can see this slave system applies to all except for the Chosen.

Well stated.

The average salary for a police officer in the United States is around $54,986 per year. **

Which I wouldn't consider nearly enough for me to risk gross bodily injury on a routine basis.

By the way, "middle class" is about $100,000.00 per year.

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By the way, "middle class" is about $100,000.00 per year.

Yes, which means that most people, white or black, in the usa, are considered 'lower class'. It takes 2 working parents with 'decent' jobs, just to be 'middle class'. That will cost you your family to accomplish. Hand the kiddies over to the state, and start the next generation of parent hating Statist marxists who attack each other and ignore the bankers.

Political Calculations' initial estimate of median household income in May 2020 is $65,669, down 0.5% from April 2020's initial estimate of $66,027.

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The real scam is they've got almost everyone brainwashed to call themselves "middle class" even if they're only slightly above the poverty line.

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And while we're on the subject, what's your ideal "non marxist" "solution" to this "problem"?

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To the 'race' problem, Morgan Freeman had a good plan in my opinion.

Freeman on Class:

Freeman on "Racism"

I also agree with Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, and many others on it.

To the banker/media problem........I don't see a solution. Too late. The programming is so vast, it is impossible practically, to even wake a single mind. I have been studying everything esoteric for 2 decades now, and I know what it takes to shed the old skin, and I don't have hopes that even 1% of the population possesses the Virtue, nor IQ, nor Vigilance required to break free. It is hard wired into us from cradle to grave. Great thinkers start throwing out Fallacies right and left because they want to match the 'narrative'.
It's not looking good for humanity right now.

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The programming is so vast, it is impossible practically, to even wake a single mind.

Well, your "single mind" seems to be doing pretty well, considering the circumstances!

I'm interested in "building bridges" to "less wrong" ideas and systems (like Holacracy and RCV).

People often conflate "deprogramming" with "reprogramming" and vice versa.

Thanks for lending me your mettle.

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Well, your "single mind" seems to be doing pretty well, considering the circumstances!

My hopeless feeling is due to knowing that 'Morpheus' was correct when he said "I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it".

We can't force anyone to 'see' what was hidden from us. The hard truth is that, they either will or they won't. They will 'seek' the Truth if it is in them to do so. Nobody can 'show' them the truth. When you know at least that, then you know that all you can do is just put the truths out there for those that weren't able to see them. Even if that means getting killed. Only the Truth matters. All Lies murder our existence.

It will either come or it won't.
The 'crazier' what I say is to you, the further from the Truth you know you are.
No, don't take my word for it, it will come automatically to anyone who walks that path. You will be forced to face it. You will know that the real battle is being fought beyond our 'sight'.

Good luck. Thanks for caring. There is that Virtue which, may even be the most important one of all ;)

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When I think about my own journey to becoming a LOGICZOMBIE, I remember conversations, many years ago, when I railed against the idea of NOUMENON.

It's "illogical", I declared.

It makes "no sense" to believe in something you can never know, I stated repeatedly.

And now I realize how "wrong" I was.

It's almost like they planted a seed of truth in my mind.

Sometimes it just takes some time to grow.

And now, when someone vehemently disagrees with me on some point of logic, I just see my younger self reflected.

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It's almost like they planted a seed of truth in my mind.

Here it is! This is the realization that haunts me. I am glad that you see it. I think it is necessary to feel this to move 'forward', if that is the right direction!

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Good clips. I've been watching Morgan Freeman's "About God".

Click to watch 2 minutes,

Also, you might like this 30 second clip on how to end racism,

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It's not the same messiah that most people think about

I'm surprised they put that little Truth in there...

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Everybody just got to keep fucking everybody until they are the same color...

This is the pinnacle of the Marxist goal. It is pure Evil. It is what I work so hard to expose. This is literally referred to as the Kalergi Plan. It is a sickening Banker dream. The 'God' class ruling over one race of 'mongrels'.

And when you know that "Wikishit" calls it a "Far Right Wing Conspiracy Theory" it is something that you should pay close attention to, as with anything -they- call a 'Conspiracy Theory'.

Remember, "Diversity" is only "Diverse" if it is not all crammed and mashed together into 'one thing'.

-Kalergi Plan- "Far Right" Version
http://www.hist-chron.com/judentum-aktenlage/zionismus/op/Kalergi/ENGL-Kalergi-plan.html

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Also, the TRUTH is a solution always. Getting people to look at the TRUTH? Almost impossible.

Cognitive Dissonance mixed with Confirmation Bias is the winner in this society, and the losers are Truth and Logic.

Here is a quick one to get up to speed. With this knowledge, apply it to all your current thoughts on the matters.

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If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed.

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True, for few.

Cognitive Dissonance has been taught, nay, programmed into everyone, to prevail

Cognitive dissonance is a term for the state of discomfort felt when two or more modes of thought contradict each other. The clashing cognitions may include ideas, beliefs, or the knowledge that one has behaved in a certain way.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/cognitive-dissonance

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Watched 15 minute clip.

Ok. This entire video is an enormous "tu quoque" RED HERRING.

Yes, there are some important and relevant FACTS peppered within.

When women hate men, it's because they believe (falsely) that men have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

When "non-whites" hate "whites", it's because they believe (falsely) that "whites" have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

When "liberals" hate "conservatives", it's because they believe (falsely) that "conservatives" have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

And when "whites" hate "non-whites", it's because they believe (falsely) that "non-whites" have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

And when men hate "feminists", it's because they believe (falsely) that "feminists" have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

And when "conservatives" hate "liberals", it's because they believe (falsely) that "liberals" have the "best deal" and the gain of one is at the expense of the other.

ALL OF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR CORPORATE OWNERS NEED.

THE POOR FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR A SLIGHTLY LARGER CUT OF THE TOXIC GARBAGE HEAP.

Click to watch 3 minutes,

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Hmm. Surprised that is what you got out of this.

The whole point of this was about revealing the Truths of slavery. Not 'who can gain more'.
Only the Truth. Which is necessary for a mind to grow beyond the charade.

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I've already said that the modern "average white" is NOT responsible for historical atrocities (and therefore should NOT suffer from "white guilt").

Blaming the "arabs" or "obama" or "hillary" or "the jooz" is just a pointless RED HERRING.

Saying we should "focus on eliminating ALL slavery around the globe" (ostensibly with military force) is NEO-LIBERALISM (and no so-called "conservative" should be caught dead advocating for such a thing).

(IFF) you don't like atrocities (human rights violations) (THEN) you should perhaps stop buying products from those who exploit atrocious tactics (MOBSTER CORPORATIONS).

(IFF) you don't care about human rights violations (THEN) stop pretending you do.

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Saying we should "focus on eliminating ALL slavery around the globe" (ostensibly with military force) is NEO-LIBERALISM (and no so-called "conservative" should be caught dead advocating for such a thing).

You are still missing the point.
I dont know if you are trying to miss it or what. Or if it is just flat out Cognitive Dissonance.

The POINT, is that WHITES WERE ENSLAVED WORSE THAN ANYONE. EVEN AFTER THE CIVIL WAR! THE US NAVY WAS CREATED TASKED PUT A STOP TO IT.
WHITES ENDED SLAVERY BY LAW.
SLAVERY IS STILL PRACTICED TODAY IN AFRICA
BLM IS SET TO DESTROY THE WEST VIA ->LIES<-
GET THE TRUTH OUT.
SCREW EVERYTHING ELSE

If you cannot see the asinine bullshit FOCUSED on ONLY WHITE PEOPLE BEING EVIL SLAVERS, then I can show no further. Because this is really frustrating when people BOUNCE AROUND THE POINT.

WHITES ARE BLAMED FOR ALL EVIL. IT MUST STOP NOW.

Is that clearer?
I am Anti-Bolshevik Narrative. Truth only.

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It's been my impression that BLM is primarily about police brutality.

Sure there's been some "anti-white" backlash from their apparent complacency, but that's mostly misdirected rage.

How exactly are "whites enslaved more than anyone"?

Sorry, but I'm just not seeing it.

How is confronting police brutality going to "destroy the west"?

What are the specific "lies" you're so concerned about?

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Interesting.
Well if you have those questions, still, after everything I have laid out thus far....
..about those metaphorical 'doors'...You chose to not open them.
The Blue Pill, it is called.

Logically, there is only one explanation that I can think of as to why you still have these questions. Red Herrings and all! Do I use this opportunity to point them all out? Frankly I am too tired. I have trying to leave a tiny streak of truth in my wake for too many years. Watching the culmination of the dygenic nightmare over the years, approach!

I will entertain a fallacy though....since we are here.

How is confronting police brutality going to "destroy the west"?

Do we have a 'black or white' Fallacy?
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It is not just 'confronting police brutality'. It is not, pardon the expression, just black or white. You should already know this based on the information I have disclosed previously.
BLM is the army of the enemy. They do not hide this (their leaders). They are 100% foreign funded Marxists there to 'push that ideology'. If you excuse this, then you are I suppose, in support of their mission?

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If you excuse this, then you are I suppose, in support of their mission?

I honestly don't know what "mission" you think I'm "supporting".

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I honestly don't know what "mission" you think I'm "supporting".

Ok, maybe it would help me to explain better if I knew what country you hailed from :)

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Your IDENTITY cannot qualify or disqualify sound logic.

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Your IDENTITY cannot qualify or disqualify sound logic.

Who said that it would? Did I? Why did you assume I thought that?
I am merely trying to 'speak your language', as to be more Logical, to you. This is what needs to be done in the face of Cognitive Dissonance.

Therefore, your explanation, is falling on ears that already know. My explanation will hopefully allow you expand your mind into 'seeing' why I requested your hailing 'culture'.

Do you not find it beneficial to try to speak to someone with their own 'language'?

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I do my best to focus on words and avoid the "identity trap".

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Thanks for explaining what you do. So, do you or do you not see my point?

FAG

Did I say, homosexual or a Cigarette?

Hopefully you can see the point from that example ;)

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Without context, words are themselves, inherently meaningless.

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I would really LOVE a Fag right now!
^^ statement all by itself. The entire Context.

Did you know what I meant?
You would if I was British, and you would if I was American! But they would mean completely different things depending which I was....Or whom I was 'addressing'.
That's what I was trying to accomplish. Being more precise. Interesting that you resist this point.

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I'd hardly call that "full context".

I'd most likely dismiss the comment as an expression of your personal opinion.

Every cluster of words is a puzzle that requires rigorous analysis to be properly understood.

Statements of opinion are some of the least likely to yield factual conclusions.

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I'd hardly call that "full context".

Not sure why. You could be anywhere, doing anything, saying nothing even, looking at a building, or a passerby, or drinking a drink..and someone near you could say "I'd love a fag right now"...

That would be the entire context...

If you were American you would think, a homosexual wants love.
If you were British you would (if you had them) pull out a smoke and offer.

I'd most likely dismiss the comment as an expression of your personal opinion.

Yes either way, it would be the personal opinion stated.

Every cluster of words is a puzzle that requires rigorous analysis to be properly understood.

Yes, understatement of the year.

Statements of opinion are some of the least likely to yield factual conclusions.

True but irrelevant. For the reason that- Half the Truth(fact) is often far worse than any Lie, which can produce non-factual conclusions. Therefore statements of fact are, also, some of the least likely to yield factual conclusions.

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^^ Great Almanack!

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That's why I remain skeptical of statements (and people) I seem to disagree with (I rarely disagree 100%).

And also why I remain skeptical of statements (and people) I seem to agree with (I rarely agree 100%).

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(IFF) you don't like atrocities (human rights violations) (THEN) you should perhaps stop buying products from those who exploit atrocious tactics (MOBSTER CORPORATIONS).

I already do this. WHO ELSE DOES? How can someone know where to put their MANA, when the TRUTH escapes them?
WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH. Acting on LIES is only being SHEEP to the BANKER CLASS. You can't BOYCOTT what you aren't even aware of, can you?

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POOR PEOPLE are disillusioned with "the system" and will take matters into their own hands (like BATMAN). Just like in "FIRST BLOOD", just like in "FALLING DOWN".

I don't think those movies are totally related to this. Falling down stands on its own. Batman was rich. Rambo was a war vet killer.

Each "protagonist" is disillusioned with "the system" and will take matters into their own hands.

Rambo [in FIRST BLOOD] is very specifically like,

Dorner was described by the United States Navy as an expert marksman, winning medals and ribbons for his skills with both handguns and rifles. He would continue his career in the military through 2007, and would be deployed overseas for one year between 2006 and 2007. **

Chappelle also talked about Christopher Dorner, a former Los Angeles police officer, and a siege which ended in Dorner’s death. Chappelle compared that siege to protests over Floyd’s death:

[Police] found him … [Dorner] was hiding in a cabin … when they figured out where this n**** was, no less than 400 police officers showed up and answered the call … and you know why 400 cops showed up? Because one of their own was murdered … so how the fuck can’t they understand what’s going on in these streets?**

Isn't it interesting that when cops unite to kill someone who harmed one of their members, society calls it "justice" or at least "understandable".

But when another group of people express outrage over one of their members being harmed, society calls them "lunatics" and "thugs".

Why don't they just "calm down"??

Skip to 206 seconds,

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Chappelle also talked about Christopher Dorner, a former Los Angeles police officer, and a siege which ended in Dorner’s death.

And this is exactly the problem. I have asked you to try to reflect on everything you 'think' you know. If you simply repeat the lying mainstream narrative, how are you ever to grow outside of the box? You won't be able to. You will cling on to your beliefs that were chosen for you to believe.

Do you know anything else about Dorner? Did your spidey senses tell you there was much more to this story, or did you just go with what the lying bolshevik media programmed us with, and act on that?

I also mentioned before that I cannot stomach Cultural Marxist Peddlers, like 'The Daily Show'. Yes I meant Noah. I can't stand that moronic asshat. Any point he makes is guaranteed to be an attack on, not only the Truth, but one particular race, at the behest of his bolshevik Banker Masters.

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Do you know anything else about Dorner?

Please explain.

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Ok, so your answer is No.
I have thus, made my point. You believe what you are told on the Liar box. I can blame those that believe lies after they are told they are lies, but I can't blame those whom are ignorant. The truth was scrubbed very fast with this incident. It was starting to show that Dorner had some serious dirt he was about to blow a whistle on, department corruption. Dorner crossed the "Blue Line" and it had nothing to do with the Race Card that was shoved up all of our rears.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Are you capable of telling yourself that everything you have learned on the mainstream is, bullshit? Can you accept that you have been fooled and completely start over without the marxist bias? It is difficult but I recommend it.

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Yes, he was kicked off the force for trying to expose corruption. That's exactly what "the liar box" explains in that ate-4d-six vid I posted.

I never suggested Dorner was specifically oppressed because of his "race".

That's why I was comparing him to "FIRST BLOOD". That wasn't about "race", it was about individual sovereignty and basic human rights and disillusion with the established systems of power.

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Ah I see now.
I may have to watch 1st blood again. It has been a long time. Decades. I'm sure my take will be different now :)

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EASY RIDER also follows this same theme.

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EASY RIDER also follows this same theme.

I definitely didn't get that from ER. However, I know what the purpose of that film was, and the ramifications of it in the psyche of the people, whether it was the purpose or not.

Perhaps, you would like to look at it from the esoteric point of view:

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That is a very interesting analysis.

But it still seemed to be missing the point.

Your speaker repeatedly comments that the HATE of the townies "seemed random and made no sense".

However, in my experience, the HATE of the townies IS VERY REAL.

People are beaten and even killed for "looking different" and it has nothing to do with "racism".

"The American Dream" portrayed in EASY RIDER is "get rich quick and party like a rock star".

This is ultimately a hollow pursuit, but these characters, and many even today are going to have to figure that out for themselves.

I don't see the "selling drugs for profit" by the protagonists as anything other than "free market economics".

Johnson & Johnson grows thousands of acres of poppies in order to produce and sell their pain killers for $$$.

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I don't see the "selling drugs for profit" by the protagonists as anything other than "free market economics".

You saw what you wanted to see. Based on how you are programmed to see it.
You call subsidized mega corps "Free market economics" but I do not call it what it isn't. Now, you 'see' something 'illegal' as being something it isn't. You compare drug dealing scum to one of our illegal mega corps. Instead of noting that the degenerate behavior will crush our society, you see it as 'business'.

Did you lower your morals? Or were you programmed to?

However, in my experience, the HATE of the townies IS VERY REAL.

Any examples of this? Do you seriously have examples of real live Deliverance. Please provide. I live in a small town now. With lots of livestock and what you would think these Sterotyped 'Hillbillies' act like. Your premise is preposterous therefore to me. It is precisely once again, my point made.

but these characters, and many even today are going to have to figure that out for themselves.

Not possible with this level of brainwashing programming and destroyed culture, as I have just demonstrated.

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You don't strike me as a LEGALIST.

Do you believe in individual sovereignty (autonomy)?

People around the world have hated each other throughout history for petty reasons not related to skin color.

I've seen this myself.

If you haven't seen it yourself, my "story" won't be any more "convincing" than my previous statement.

I'm certainly not trying to say that one group of people is "generally" more suspicious and fearful of "the others" than any other specific group of people.

People are territorial. People are competitive. People are afraid.

It doesn't matter where they're from, what color they might be, or how rich or poor they happen to be at the moment.

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I also mentioned before that I cannot stomach Cultural Marxist Peddlers, like 'The Daily Show'.

Sure, ok. But do you agree with this particular point (regardless of the identity of the source)?

I mean, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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No I can't. I can blast Noah's bullshit endless Fallacies into oblivion with ease.
You still think Mandela was legit? And Ghandi?
Remember what I said about shedding the mainstream programming.
I don't even know where to begin if you can't. If you believe anything these bolsheviks say, you'll be doing their work for them and never even know it.
The long game. Think of their long game.

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I'm willing to listen to all sides, but I need specifics.

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There is a group that is pulling all these strings to make their ends meet.
I showed you an entry in the congressional record that points to this. Do you remember, 1912? Let's call that 'not very long ago' in the big picture. This plan goes back, pre-bible. I can't pinpoint how far, but many millenia for sure.

“We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America." (The Jew, December, 1925, Zinobit)

Class war + Race war.
The race war goes back before most know. How bout Jacob and Esau? No? Ok, then further. How bout Enki and Enlil? No? Further than that?? I'll have to look harder..... Juno and Minerva? Hmm....could be.. Who are they? I don't know. Maybe I am crazy.

"This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the largest banks? Ho-ho! The Communism of Marx seeks an enormous centralization of the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which profiteers from the labour of others, will always find a way to prevail. In reality, for the proletariat, this would be a barrack regime, under which the working men and the working women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work, and live at the beat of the drum." ~ Bakunin (1814-1876)

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MONEY = RACE WAR?

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That isn't what I was saying no.
(fiat)Currency does fuel class+race war though.

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I would tend to agree, but I'm pretty sure nobody's abandoning fiat anytime soon!

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I'm pretty sure nobody's abandoning fiat anytime soon!

Thanks to all those that don't care about what they don't know.
Try teaching some folks this, and watch the Fluoride Stare:

Even with an audio/visual, they won't watch (99.5%) of them in my experience, and forget about getting anyone to read a/the book!
Books are so early 20th century!!! :D

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Just keep eating and drinking your poison. I'm sure you'll be just fine for another few decades or so...

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Side note, you are powering huge! Ever upvote I do is lowering my vote power over time and yours is going up with each upvote. I am considering moving some of my other coins into Hive to power up more too. I feel like an itty bitty sub-minnow! :D

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So if less than 2% of 'whites' owned slaves in the usa...
...and less than 3% of 'blacks' owned slaves in the usa...

..then who actually owned all those slaves?

That is the question.
Watch that video I linked you about slavery. It is short and will divulge much to you that you should become aware of, to have these discussions we are having :)

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The overwhelming "majority" of "whites" never owned slaves and therefore there is no reason to suffer "white guilt".

I believe we already agree on this.

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Yes we do but that is not the point of my comment, since, we already agree on that. Let's try to leave out the fallacies. I am.

..then who actually owned all those slaves?
That is the question.

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Who actually owned all those slaves?

The rich and powerful (OWNERS).

Just like they still do.

Their "race" and country of origin, or "heritage" or "culture" has nothing to do with it.

Scythian, Sumerian, Nephilim, or what have you.

Some are just better at it than others.

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Their "race" and country of origin, or "heritage" or "culture" has nothing to do with it.

What made you say this? Try to reach into yourself, deep, and discover what makes you think this, and if you can, then ask, why did you allow yourself to tell your 'self' that.

It absolutely matters. This could be a limiting factor to your 'seeing' the 'obfuscated'. This is why I asked you this question. So we could see what your 'feelings' would actually go to. I say feelings because, your declaration is not fact, but opinion. An 'opinion' that remedied ignorance would change. I don't know if the way I explain to you, can even begin to break barriers constructed around all of our psyches. This is a good test I guess. I am always ready to see if your points and 'Facts' will change my thinking as well.

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Please explain to me how it matters if they were Scythian, Sumerian, Nephilim, or what have you.

It's just like that show "Ancient Aliens" (Chariots of the Gods).

So what? So what if space-invaders built Pumapunku or whatever.

Who cares? What does any of this mean to anyone alive today?

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Who cares? What does any of this mean to anyone alive today?

“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Your stance fits the Nihilism part quite well. This is exactly what they want.
"Who Cares".

I often say:
USA Old Creed: To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
USA New Creed: Who Cares!

Our 'Roots' are far, far more important than the mass majority can even fathom.
You say "Human Nature". So since it does not matter to you whether space invaders, or 'demons' or 'archons' or unnatural parasites, rule you, they will therefore always be able to rule you, by Silent Consent. Or just flat out Consent.

Real quick, does this mean anything to you by chance?:

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What's the practical upshot?

Are you suggesting some sort of "genetic superiority" of the "polarians"?

What do you believe this "means" to you?

Are MOBSTERS and CON-ARTISTS not employing the exact same tactics regardless of their "genetic makeup"?

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Are you suggesting some sort of "genetic superiority" of the "polarians"?

Superiority? No. "I" suggested nothing. Try not to focus on what "I" think. I posed a question. To find out, what I asked. If you this meant anything to YOU at all.

Check out how you replied.
Discover your fallacies.
Did you even answer the question?

Are MOBSTERS and CON-ARTISTS not employing the exact same tactics regardless of their "genetic makeup"?

Interesting Assumption you make with your question.
Mobsters can do whatever they want, when they hold the keys, that no-one else know exist. Do you realize what I am saying?
They can manipulate the natural course of the cycle of our planet. They can guide racial gardens for their own farm, with the sheep being, anyone that is not aware of their own past, or 'race'.

It would behoove you do discover your own 'roots'.
Behavior is not just 'random' or 'environmental'.
There is no 'superior' there is 'complimentary' for forming a functioning being as a whole.
There are reasons that each race was rooted in the place they were.

Can you cut a Trees roots out from under it and watch it thrive, nay, Survive?

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Well, your use of the word "mongrel" seemed at least passingly "derogatory".

Didn't humans spring from the plains of Africa (about 8 million years ago) and then find refuge in the "fertile crescent" and then spread along similar latitudinal ranges growing similar crops and raising similar animals?

Don't humans adapt to different geographical environments, regardless of their "origins"?

Are you proposing we're being genetically funneled towards either the ELOI or the MORLOCKS?

I mean, aren't humans going to be obsolete in just a few more years?

11 minutes,

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Well, your use of the word "mongrel" seemed at least passingly "derogatory".

"SEEMED" - It was not my word. That is 'THEIR' word. Check out that article I linked with it.

Didn't humans spring from the plains of Africa (about 8 million years ago) and then find refuge in the "fertile crescent" and then spread along similar latitudinal ranges growing similar crops and raising similar animals?

No. Assumption based on your programming.

Are you proposing we're being genetically funneled towards either the ELOI or the MORLOCKS?

I am proposing that we already are there. The 'intensity' and 'perfection of system' is increasing though, as it has before in the far past, before it crumbled each time.

I mean, aren't humans going to be obsolete in just a few more years?

If 'they' have their way yes.
Are you on 'their side'? If you say Yes or anything Nihilistic, then you are.

Humanity is being killed by the Consenting Humans. With Free Will.
The majority crush the small amount of (freeThinkers). Free Will. The Free Will of the 'Majority', has been guided by a "Minority" to crush the Majority(self) and worship that Minority. Anything else in the way (freeThinkers) will be crushed.

"Transhumanism" is 'a' goal.

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Do you think FREEWILL is logically incoherent?

Do you think FREEWILL is just another (powerful) CON-GAME?

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They are good questions that I have already attempted to answer but failed :)

Do you think FREEWILL is logically incoherent?

I still ponder this question. I do not know.

Do you think FREEWILL is just another (powerful) CON-GAME?

Manipulation of it is. That's the con. The 'Golden Web'.
We do have our Free Will.......in 'their' eye.

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Here's the problem.

There are only two possible options.

(EITHER)

(1) your thoughts (and actions) are contextual (caused by previous experiences, including your biology).

(OR)

(2) your thoughts (and actions) are random (uncaused by any previous experiences).

If you pick #1, then your thoughts (and actions) relate to your memory and the world around you (contextual). This means your thoughts (and actions) are potentially USEFUL TO YOU AND OR OTHERS.

If you pick #2, then your thoughts (and actions) don't necessarily relate to anything at all. And as a matter of fact, statistically, it would be extremely unlikely that any RANDOM thought or action would be even remotely or incidentally USEFUL TO YOU AND OR OTHERS.

Now you might try to mix the two options, some caused, some uncaused, and that's fine.

Your useful thoughts and actions MUST BE CAUSED.

YOur "free" thoughts and actions are TAUTOLOGICALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE (99.999% of the time).

TSAAFW (The Standard Argument Against Free Will)

SOURCE CONVO

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Lenin viewed racism as a product and a tool of bourgeois society. Racism is used to win over working-class people to sacrificing and dying for imperial adventures abroad (in Lenin's time, tzarist expansion in central and east Asia, in our time, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq), and also to divide different sections of workers (who would otherwise be the overwhelming majority) in their struggles for economic freedom and political power. Therefore, racism was definitely an obstacle to socialist revolution. The way to overcome these national rivalries was to build an "international" of socialists from all over the world. Delegates from China, India, and elsewhere came to the first congresses of Lenin's Third International (which would later betray 1st and 3rd world movements time and again after Lenin's death).

To see Lenin's views on the use of racism as a tool of imperialist policy, look up "national self-determination" vs "social chauvinism".

Domestically speaking, Lenin would advocate for labor-organizations in various nations to instill working-class consciousness and combat forms of "false-consciousness" that divided the working class, which include racism, sexism, homo-phobia, and religious divisions. He wrote letters to American revolutionaries convincing them to argue for the inclusion of blacks in the labor movement, and, were he around today, he would probably congratulate Egyptian Mulsims and Copts (Christians) for coming together at Tahrir Square, despite centuries of Muslim oppression toward Copts.

Racism is one of the issues that, Lenin would argue, necessitates the formation of a "vanguard-party" of the most class-conscious workers. Common economic oppression alone are not enough to get workers to unite, since racism divides and oppresses different sections of workers. Class unity can't be left to spontaneity... It takes organizations of trained and conscious anti-racists, anti-sexists, etc, to work amongst their co-workers, neighbors, and fellow soldiers, to win them to the idea of racial unity.

I thought that nice chap I quoted above explained it pretty well.

Know the game!

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Class unity can't be left to spontaneity... It takes organizations of trained and conscious anti-racists [including against "whites"], anti-sexists [including against men], etc, to work amongst their co-workers, neighbors, and fellow soldiers, to win them to the idea of racial unity.

These are all excellent points.

"Grind them between taxation and inflation", give them the false choice between "right" and "left".

Are you suggesting that all of this is "the opposite" simply because of the source (ad hominem)?

Is egalitarianism "evil"?

I understand that "freedom" and "equality" are inversely proportional.

But one does need to actually "draw the line" somewhere.

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Are you suggesting that all of this is "the opposite" simply because of the source (ad hominem)?

Opposite of? Not following sorry.

I do not support Lenin's vision no. I am deeply opposed to artificially created crisis' for societal manipulation.
They are the masters of the Hegelian Dialectic.

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They are the masters of the FALSE DICHOTOMY.

I'm not sure you can pin this on Hegel.

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I'm not sure you can pin this on Hegel

How so? I didn't pin it on an individual. The dialectic though....

Create the Problem
Get desired Reaction
Propose Solution (original goal)

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This is also known as "creative writing 101".

STASIS, CRISIS, RESOLUTION.

It's the arch-typical three act play.

And a really good con-artist doesn't even need to manufacture the "crisis".

Just have a little patience.

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History we are not taught in 'school'. Try to look at it objectively. As a child. Brand new hard drive in your little head. Ready to be filled.
Where are the movies for our people?

ISLAM AND THE WHITE SLAVE TRADE.
https://john-gaultier.blogspot.com/2015/11/islam-and-white-slave-trade.html

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Do you believe in the principle of national sovereignty?

Do you believe in the principle of personal sovereignty?

You can't really espouse the virtue of one without the other.

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I'd love to entertain those questions.
Just as soon as you entertain mine that were posed, before these.
And maybe, offer your opinion on the White Slave Trade.

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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make regarding "the white slave trade".

Do you want "reparations" or something?

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Do you want "reparations" or something?

Lol, wow.....No

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make regarding "the white slave trade".

I spelled it out, literally in another post. I don't possess the patience to keep showing the same thing. I have been doing this for decades, and there are some minds that are not ready to look. "They will look on their own accord, we are told".
I took the time to spell this out again, to a LogicZombie, thinking that Logic would prevail. And it may, eventually, I don't know. But, if you are resisting the logic that should have appeared before you already, then you are simply suffering the effects of cognitive dissonance.
What I am telling you, isn't sitting right in your 'program', and you will search, and reach, for anything to hang on to the 'Reality' that you 'Know', at the expense of Points and Truths that will evade your perception. This is not a 'fault' per se. This is the standard. -They- knew what they were doing. "The 'slaves' will fight against those that break free."
Again, like the matrix....

Do you know why the Matrix, and so many other movies disclose things, and people think "Wow that movie maker somehow got this through the 'censors'!"
Well, they didn't. The 'movies', along with music, media, school, etc, all 'Disclose' the 'Plan'. They have to. It is part of their 'Universal Doctrine'. Maybe you are religious, or maybe you are atheist, but the 'powers that be' are definitely religious, whether you know or not, like or not. They have to adhere to Luciferian Doctrine, which means that they have to give, FREE WILL to everyone.

Free Will. Do they give us free will? Yes they sure do. However it is 'obfuscated'. Tricks. Like a movie. Take the Matrix. Science 'Fiction' right? Well that matters not. Whether they call it 'fiction' or not. They still have to tell you what they are doing, and they do so in 'fiction', so that YOUR mind tells you, this is fake, even if it isn't.

MAXIM OF LAW - Silence is CONSENT

Did you speak out against being a battery slave? You sure didn't, why would you? It was fiction after all, right?
You must, not CONSENT, to say 'No'.
"I DO NOT CONSENT" <--- very powerful spell

Enjoy.

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But, if you are resisting the logic that should have appeared before you already, then you are simply suffering the effects of cognitive dissonance.

Maybe you could try condensing your point into a simple SYLLOGISTIC STATEMENT.

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simple SYLLOGISTIC STATEMENT

To a very complex issue that you have already resisted (opening the door) on your own. "Syllogistic Statements" are valid and useful for something simple and direct. If this topic were such, that would work, with a one paragraph statement. I broke it up into multiple though. So that, not to 'lead you' to my direct thought. I brought you to the door, hoping you would open it.

Syllogistic - Simplified
"White" is Evil due to slavery/racism
Whites experienced worse chattel slavery themselves, for even longer time
Whites ended slavery (the only race to do so after thousands of years of others doing so)
Whites do not deserve the slandering they receive

Now, it seems that you really didn't even get phased by that information about the white slave trade/navy/etc. Maybe that was just my perception problem I don't know. However the fact that you completely wrote that out of the whole equation told me that it was something that didn't sit right with you, enough for you to disregard that out of your 'not seeing my point'.

Can you see that point now? It is frustrating when people ignore that HUGE factor.

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"Whites" experienced worse chattel slavery themselves...

#1 there are no "whites", only a vague amalgam of "lighter-skinned" people that seems to change based on the whim of the current moment.

#2 even if there were "whites" and they were "historically oppressed", that doesn't in any way immunize them from criminal behavior themselves.

#3 I've already pointed out repeatedly that the average, working-class "white" had absolutely nothing to do with any "slavery" and therefore should be immune from "white guilt".

Furthermore, I believe that "guilt" is itself a very sophisticated brain-washing technique, leveraged by con-artists throughout history in order to get otherwise intelligent individuals to act in a way that is in accordance with the whims of their OWNERS (and against their individual self-interest and against the self-interest of their fellow workers).

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You are still somehow ignoring the point. You will need to start a new argument about whether 'Whites' exist, so that we can stay on the point that I typed out.
It doesn't matter whether you think they exist or not. Not to my point. They EXIST in the MASS CONSCIOUSNESS of the people, via trickery and obfuscation.
"Whites" think of themself as White, as a reasult of what I have previously said "Taught to ignore the dozens of various 'races' within the European People, reduced to "White", just like all the African people reduced to "Black".
YES this is an ABOMINATION to reduce to one color.

Still, missed the point.
The point is the NARRATIVE. Does it matter if YOU know what is true, if everyone around you think you are 'insane'? Because 99% will tell you that you are insane if you say there is no 'white' people, even if you are 100% correct. That is the point. Practically all 'whites' feel guilty, when they should not. You yourself make arguments based on 'what whites have done', and my point has been trying to get you to see, they didn't do what the narrative you ascribe to, taught. And we will never get to a semblance of Truth, until those evil narratives are wiped from our psyche.

Furthermore, I believe that "guilt" is itself a very sophisticated brain-washing technique,

Yes this is what I said. "White Guilt" is on us, whether you rightfully think it shouldn't be or not! It has reshaped our entire culture, and brought us to this point.
White Self Guilt produces Black Self-Victimization, and vise versa. A perfect circle of control.

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Ok, now it sounds like we generally agree, but I'm still not sure what "point" I'm "missing".

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Perhaps you are not missing it if you can see what I am saying after all.

We have shaped our opinions and actions based on lies. The Truth about 'slavery' in general, will go a long ways to undo some of the world that is built on the Lies. We are sitting on a large foundational Lie, regarding 'Racism'. That must be addressed before anyone can successfully 'move forward' in Truth. Only the Truth can even begin to 'set us free'. If we argue all year, based on a lie, we will conclude what 'they' want us to.

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PRIMARY AXIOMS.

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YES!

^big yes

"I know nothing"
Therefore I will always 'seek' the Primary.

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Control the language and you will hold the reigns of their minds.

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indeed....so much so.

You've perhaps seen my use of 'deafPhoenicians'.. deafPhoenicians = Definitions.

Every word you and I are using now as Lan-Gu-Age has been perfected over millenia, to hold us in chains. Our mere 'Language' is our Slave Cage, from the very start.

If you haven't already, I'd highly recommend studying the etymology of our 'words'.

The best study I know of to start, is probably the most important study there is for a start... It is long but I recommend it. Chiron Last's "The Golden Web". A 'must' I think....And you'd need to watch it many times lol... Scratching the surface, but far more knowledge gained than 99.9% of our population. Take what resonates.

https://www.splspro.com/videos/the-golden-web-part-1-2-and-3/

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Thanks for the link!

Also, Alfred Korzybski.

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Alfred Korzybski

Nice thanks I will check him out!

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It means if you're "white" your grandparents weren't denied home-loans simply because of their skin color.

It means if you're "white" your grandparents and parents weren't the target of laws specifically designed to destroy your core family unit.

None of this is the average "white" person's "fault", they are not individually "responsible" for the "privilege" they've unwittingly enjoyed.

However, there should be some acknowledgement that many of their neighbors did not enjoy the same unspoken, invisible "privilege".

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You might want to check my profile and my other postings to see where I come from. Anyway:

I am not responsible for what my grandparents did or did not do or get. Trying to instil guilt for that will only result in defiance from my site.

The core family has been destroyed by feminism and it has been destroyed for all races. Black are the canary in the coal mine where it shows up first. The rest of society will soon follow.

Feminism is and always was a movement of wealthy white women who tricked everybody else into there service.

You are looking at the wrong privileges:

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I do agree that the war on drugs was a mistake and I'm in the legalise everything camp.

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I agree with you that it's important to keep in mind that only 2% of "white people" owned slaves.

And I hope we can agree that there's no reason for the average "white person" to feel an ounce of guilt about slavery because they did nothing to promote it themselves.

HOWEver, "white people" have gained an advantage (however slight in some cases), generally, especially the Brits and Americans, from the historic oppression of the "other".

This is not a new phenomenon. The Hindus practically worship their history of systemic racism that spans thousands of years. The Egyptians and Romans built empires on the backs of slave labor.

Can you understand the plight of the characters in movies like "FIRST BLOOD" and "FALLING DOWN"?

2 minutes,

2 minutes,

Now imagine millions of people who feel the exact same way.

Sure their frustration should be focused on the BILLIONAIRES.

Sure, but our owners are very skilled at TURNING US AGAINST EACH OTHER.

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I wonder if we talk past each other. Especially when you are quoting two videos of angry white men.

Brits, Americans, Egyptians and Romans — 🤔 — Which group of historic slave owner are missing from the list?

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And while we are at it: The word slave comes from the word slavic and is a reminiscent from the times when the Vikings took the Polish and Russians as slaves. Everybody took everybody else as slave. Every group is both victim and perpetrator.

Sure, but our owners are very skilled at TURNING US AGAINST EACH OTHER.

How very true.

  • black vs. white
  • men vs women
  • straight vs gay
  • cis vs trans

But most people don't see the whole picture. AFAIK the only groups which does are men's rights activists.

Since your like videos, if you want to know how bad it really is I have two playlists for you:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLePIBGTG_9y1aE1Du8ITgxNAYgHoJVmJH
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjMscr0TpRqjE8WcuGrAnJ5KLZ8DeuY39

And yes that's a black woman talking at a men's rights conference right in the first video. She was not the only one.

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Is there some reason we can't simply call it a "human rights conference"?

+PROHUMAN
+PROFAMILY

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I made a similar argument with regards to female genital mutation. My argument was: Could we not call it child genital mutilation? Almost always there was a huge pushback. I have given up. We have to do the fight against male genital mutilation on our own.

The urge to protect women at the expense of men is deeply engrained in the human physic.

In the 1970 some European countries had Ministry of Family Affairs. By now they have been renamed to Ministry for Women, Children and Elderly. Notice who is now missing?

The USA once had a law against domestic violence. By now this law has been replaced by the Violence against Women Acts. Notice which violence is now ignored.

Any "human rights conference" would focus on women's rights and eventually be renamed to ”women's rights conference“.

As such it is absolutely necessary fro men's rights to differentiate themselves from the more general human rights.

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Could we not call it child genital mutilation? Almost always there was a huge pushback.

Good point. For some reason, Christians just love mutilating baby boys.

Ok, maybe they could call it "men's human rights movement"?

Or could they go with "EAT THE RICH"!!

oR, DON'T BE BRAINWASHED BY THE "HERO MYTH"!!

4 minutes,

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Christians just love mutilating baby boys.

Do you see how you went for the Christians and left out the Jews? Why did you do this?

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Because I thought it was obvious when I said, "for some reason".

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"Judeo-Christian"
Is a farce. "Christian" Zionists are the most duped of all. They serve the demon they profess to be against.
You are either Christian, or you are a Zionist. There is no both.

Circumcision of the 'Heart' is the 'Christian' way. Circumcision of the penis is the other, brutal, traumatizing way.

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Which only the christians of the USA still do. Christians in Europe have all stopped over 50 years ago. Or never started in the first place.

See my posting on Kellogg above.

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I believe we agree on this. My only suggestion was that the "christians" adopted the practice from "the bible" (and we all know where that came from).

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"the bible" (and we all know where that came from).

if you are referring to the modern KJV, yes. A distortion of the 'original' a thousand times over.
However the codes are still there. Only for those with eyes to see.
"Circumcision" of the Heart.

Romans 2:29
but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

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And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

https://biblia.com/bible/esv/leviticus/12/2-3

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Ok yes, but I quoted New Testament.
Precisely my point.
Are you familiar with the difference?

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I've never met a "christian" that can accept the one without the other.

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Interesting. This is why I care about where folks 'hail' from.
It is illogical to me to think it has no bearing.

Perhaps you have never met an actual Christian. Perhaps, you met their impostors, the "Christian"Zionists.

Hint: Actual Christians don't go to Mega Churches ;)
In fact they may even follow their esoteric teaching that the Church does not want...like, things that were 'removed' from the KJV, and those 'christians' believe their footnotes in their abomination Scofield 'Bibles'

This will shed more light onto what I am saying, and give you a whole new perspective on generalizing "Christian", if you care :) :

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True GNOSTICS are very difficult to locate.

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True GNOSTICS are very difficult to locate.

I'm glad you recognize that. Very true. They have been exterminated, weeded out, Purged. Still going.

Gnostic Gospels 'of Thomas' saying 77b:
The Kingdom of God is inside you and all around you
Not in a mansion of wood and stone
Split a piece of wood and I am there
Lift a stone and you will find me.

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Christians just love mutilating baby boys.

I do know the original reason: preventing mastubation.

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Of course the reason changed over time as mastubation was destigmatised but that was the ordinal reason.

men's human rights movement

Yes, is actually one of the names we use. MRA is actually a given name. Given to us by feminists.

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I'm not sure that was the "original" intent.

It's my understanding that the "christians" adopted it from some obscure middle eastern tribe.

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