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RE: This is what a top HIVE witness does: self comment+voting and downvote-retaliation

Downvoted for disagreement on rewards. Full up/downvoting with @steemit stake is just laughable, I never thought I would see Steemit, Inc.'s stake pledged for development into a rewards-pool-destroying propaganda machine.

That said, hard-forking the chain was not something most people wanted to happen. It became obvious that negotiations between diametrically opposed parties would be difficult to impossible. Part of what led to the split being inevitable is demanding that downvotes be removed from STEEM. If you want that, (which I'm not sure you do) get ready to see much, MUCH worse "milking" than 4 STU comments. The whole platform will just degrade into milking, plaigirism and spam. In fact, it's already happening now that Spaminator and other blacklists are being turned off.

Remember that people have spent years building on Steem and they are not unreservedly happy about the turn of events. Many are still processing what Justin has and is turning Steem into and aren't ready to let go of being on both chains. There will also be old users coming back from hiatus and not having heard about anything. It's only fair that they get a chance to know about another option they can use. In short, expect to hear a lot about Hive on Steem (potentially forever) but definitely for the next 12 weeks while powerdowns hit.

Also, with a lot of the talk about "angry/rude/spam behavior of Hive users" remember it's always a small minority that has the biggest mouth. Most people are fine with just moving on but there's nothing wrong with a continuing discussion, either.


Most don't have a clue or don't care. It's easier now than ever to get 'seed' capital to start farming from dapps and projects that upvote anything or anyone. A few thousand accounts, some nickel and dime upvotes, and you have the beginnings of the next @dart utilizing 20% - 30% of daily transactions.

Steemit Incs promise to streamline and onboard 15 million new users quickly throws up some red flags for me. I checked today and they still allow phone verification from google voice numbers. While not significant by itself, there are services that provide temporary virtual numbers by the thousands cheap.

The current block log file is about 250GB? This type of farming has a cost beyond the reward pool drain. At one time @dart was responsible for more than 25% of the votes daily on steemit. These groups ran their own automated bots for posting & voting. They have the skills to pretty much spam unchecked without removing the incentive to do so.

When someone invests in Steem, then the HIVE chain is created - certain investors who have a different opinion do not get the HIVE Coin - Who guarantees the security on the HIVE chain if they have not given me and many HIVE coin?