RE: Evil Gates?

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The only reason these Bill Gates conspiracies exist is because of that Ted Talk he should never have done. He basically says that with vaccines they can put a ceiling on the total human population and even reduce it.

Bam 10 years of conspiracies involving the WHO, the UN and Agenda 21 bs.



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Reducing the total population does not have to mean killing people or even involuntary sterilisation. Growth has already slowed or even reversed in some countries, but in Africa it is going to go much higher. Some people seem to think we cannot talk about population, but it is a major factor in whether we can survive. David Attenborough has talked about it too.

Gates is a convenient whipping boy for the conspiracy crowd. There are much more dangerous people out there. Gates is smart, but he is no Lex Luthor.

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I really don't like eugenics and I'm immediately suspicious of anyone who is, that's the bias I look through when I regard this topic.
Anyone who thinks they have the prescription for how the entire human race should exist and progress is someone I wouldn't want around at my place for dinner. Anyone who is deluded enough to hold such a recipe is a fool and power monger, in my opinion.

This just seems like another implementation of central planning theory, which doesn't work when applied to emerging systems like an economy. I can only imagine it'll fail just as badly with an emerging system like human population.

Any prescription will be subverted the moment it is written, and our attempts to keep it valid take the form of encroaching totalitarianism

Anyways, I don't trust humans to create plans this vast especially when it regards other people.

I'd like to see an AI give their opinion - one not programmed by Microsoft, ideally.

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Eugenics was really big for a while and people even named their kids after it. I can see why it appealed, but that sort of control is not ethical.

People have often failed at grand plans to improve things, but we can still aim to be better. Just have to be really careful about implementing anything radical. It's a fact that billions of people have pretty shit lives whilst we live in relative luxury. If everyone had a big house, car, gadgets etc we would soon run out of resources. We need to live simpler lives whilst helping those at the bottom of the ladder, but that is easier said than done.

I know Bill also has projects around sanitation and energy. Those are also lacking in much of the world.

Humans are great, but greed is a powerful force. Have to have hope we can find ways to be viable for a lot longer.

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I feel like this story has been told dozens of times before and we're ignoring the lessons learned for some reason. In my opinion there is far too much precedent out there to not approach this with skepticism. Irresponsible to not, even.

Eugenics is always justified as a means of protecting a demographic in order to secure their future, but in the end, without fail, it becomes just a way for the ultra powerful to cement that power for all time.

They use virtue filters and leverage people's emotions in to prevent dissent and to get a blank-check of approval from the population.

In Australia they convinced the population that the Aboriginals would all die if they weren't rounded up and put into paternalistic style reservations, in reality it was just to secure the colonial power.

It's not hard to think of an instance where this happened. History is filled with stories of the powerful deceiving the powerless in order to acquire more.

It's the 'for the greater good' mentality, weaponized to service the ultra powerful.

Quite frankly, i don't believe the theory is valid, therefore i immediately distrust any attempt to leverage it. Because of this I doubt their claims that extinction is coming and that the only way to prevent it is to see their agenda realized. Fear is a powerful tool, as are sympathy and kindness - all of which become weaponized.

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Fear is powerful, but is sometimes justified. We are in unprecedented times and seem to be in a rush to trash things.

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