RE: Sad, but not yet defeated.
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How will I get those curation rewards if I don't vote for posts? Who benefits when a post is voted for?
Anyone here with SP, stands a chance to earn more, by supporting others. What did you authors do with all the SP you earned? How are you not able to offset some of the post loss by curating others?
By powering down, you're already saying you're not going to be one of these people who's here to help.
This is 100% organic.
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You had your SP delegated away, so that means you haven't been able to support authors to your full potential, like so many others here. I've been curating manually for nearly three years. I get a raise. I get a raise for helping authors. More people getting a raise for helping authors means more folks might want to get out there and vote, instead of delegating away their SP, or selling votes. They don't vote TODAY. Authors took a huge hit since most of the SP became unavailable to be used to vote for posts.
I can post and I can curate. I lose some on posts, I'll gain some for curating. I get NOTHING if I panic and leave. Everyone else who I try to support gets NOTHING if I panic and leave.
What's doing more harm now? The hardfork, or this reaction to something that hasn't even happened yet.
Do you really want it to remain more profitable for people to be paid to look away? What good is that to a content producer? That's what's been happening for years! People are paid to look away. Try to give them a reason to look, and vote again, and HOLY SHIT lets run for the hills!
As I said in the past 3 posts - I am already curating double what is suggested .... meaning I have to regularly stop upvoting posts - to regain my voting power.
so - i cannot upvote anyone... anymore than I am. (and neither can most people) (my curation rewards will be doubled from 9 to 18 - my author rewards were 375? pretty clear there.)
What did I do with the SP that I earned? Go look at my wallet. It's all there. from the beginning. oh! sorry - except all the contests I held to help newbies and have fun with people on the chain. silly me.
I won't repeat what I already said in the other 3 posts - I explain exactly why I stayed through some pretty stark times - watching projects that I loved and built and were SUCCESSFUL get dismantled by poor decisions by our leaders.
Sorry if I don't have the stamina to keep starting over when my sandcastle gets kicked down, but I don't. I can see when things are going to be on permanent repeat... Plus. why does anyone care if I'm here to help? The large accounts will now have double curation rewards - they'll have plenty of steem to help!
I would think that everyone here should be happy that the "sourpusses who can't stop complaining about author rewards" are leaving. Cuz that's what its all about , right? THAT'S why we're so upset, right? (pretty sure i stated exactly where i would be happy to see my author rewards go - and it was NOT in the pockets of whales, orcas, investors. but i'm whining. we're all just whining. )
sorry for being extra grouchy - lol I just read a post from someone who had needs to go see a proctologist about getting his head out of his arse.
there are lots of people who stayed and DID NOT sell when steem was up. we just stacked like good little Steemians and watched our value in our wallets slide into the gutter. Bet the investors didn't do that!!! But why should they? It's ok for them to want to protec THEIR money.
And everyone wants to talk about - "we wouldn't be here without the investors!"
point taken. i'm grateful for them. i just dont think we should hand them more money and thank them for the opportunity.
but does anyone acknowledge where we would be without content creators? How about everyone stop posting for a month and see what happens?
agh.. its pointless.
it really is.
hope everything works out! with me gone - just think - that's 375 more author rewards to spread around to the people remaining! if enough people leave - this place will be swimming in steem to be scooped up! right?
So you're talking about being spread thin, which is something I've been yelling at the clouds about for years. I watched people stop supporting my work so they could sell votes, because there's more money in NOT supporting what I do. I lost far more potential income simply because there wasn't enough SP to go around. So now, there's an opportunity for content producers to have access to more potential incoming SP, and this makes you angry and sad? What do you want? Do you want to be spread thin and feel like you're carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders or do you want others to come in and help?
Why is there no mention of a content producer receiving a large orca or whale vote, which is something many rarely see now? How will they earn these curation rewards you're calling SELFISH, if they don't vote for a post? What happens to an authors post when they receive more high powered votes?
Sell this place to content consumers instead of producers, and watch it take off. When was the last time you got paid to be entertained?
So yeah, I just looked at your situation. About half of your SP is delegated away, and your voting power is 66%. Your own decisions led you to personally only be able to hook someone up with far less than half of your potential. Tell me again about how you don't think that's fair if an author can only receive half of what you think is their potential? Now let's look around. How many more "curators" out there are doing the exact same thing? Produce content, sit and wait for votes, as their own potential to help others is in someone else's hands? That's many of you. You want to earn more money? Make better decisions with the money you have. Everyone's waiting for that handout. It's those people! It's their job to vote for me! My SP is here to sell votes so people can shit post! I sell votes to them so they can boost their shit post far above my own post, as I sit here wondering why nobody looks at my post....OOHHH but I earned 1 STEEM today for doing nothing because I'm a smart investor!
LOL! Sorry, but damn.
I broke it down awhile back in this post. Exactly what this community will do to this community after this hardfork unless you all wise up and start taking some responsibility for your own actions. And by ALL, I mean everyone.
All this does is get me fired up. Don't take it personally.
Hahahaa...
I just have to laugh
No one said to take their vote away . They are voting now and getting a large portion of the rewards... I think you may not have read anything I said... Which is common amongst Steemians these days.
I was delegated a LOT more than what you see!!! You have no idea how many newbies I supported because they couldn't speak after one post and three comments.
Know what created that situation?
HF20. The magical last "fix"
I take full responsibility for trying to help as many people as possible stay here after THAT disaster.
Funny where were all the SELFLESS investors then that you are so quick to defend??? Passing out all their SP to keep this place afloat like me and other minnows were???
No one that I know in all the communities that I am a part of is asking for a handout.
None of them.
Not even the Venezuelan friends I have that really needed help
But we all bent over backwards to help them anyway.
Cuz that's the kind of community we have.
And i busted my ass to make dolphin. Every post I did, the novels i wrote, the projects i created... and now we have to sit through another "experiment" where the rich can gain and the poor have to suck it up
And I would rather share my hard work elsewhere. I would stay if there was a conversation about distributing things evenly. But that's seems to not be an option.... Hmmm I wonder why!!!
Cuz people who are making lots of money want more.
We ALL lost money over the last year... But somehow we need to favor their plight over our own.
Psssht go sell it somewhere else cuz not one of us is buying it.
Don't take it personally...I'm just sick of the nonsense being shoved down our throats. I refuse to thank someone for a kick in the arse.
It would be nice if people would start taking responsibility for their own actions...a refreshing change actually.
First, I need you to calm down. I've been here nearly three years. I've seen hundreds of people fly off the handle.
I have a few questions.
Are you angry or annoyed with that list of voters on Palnet for sharing half of what this post is worth here on Palnet?
Does it bother you that even though a portion of STEEM rewards pool is getting diverted to a new system, there's another reward pool to dip into?
Does it bother you that I just added 50 cents worth of STEEM and 1 PAL to the rewards here?
Are you annoyed with me if I get half of that?
I've been here just as long as you.
Why does everyone need to calm down?
I really don't understand when people say "don't get emotional"
Are we all robots? Should we not care about where we have just spent the last 3 years, watching it go down the toilet?
My last three posts and comments (and I replied to every single one... So you can go read them.) have my stance
It's clear.
People want to take what I'm saying and twist it.
I've already addresses what you asked.multiple times. If you're interested, you can read through the comments.
If not, it's fine with me. Truly.
You are happy here with your "raise" from the money that other people will lose
Awesome 👍
Hope it works out smashing for you! You can vote on any post you like! Just not mine, because I won't be making any.
I guess I'm not understanding why that doesn't make you happy? You're getting what you want.
Celebrate!
So you're not going to answer those questions? Just going to ramble on? And who said anything about emotions?
https://steemit.com/art/@nonameslefttouse/i-only-made-this-because-i-m-angry
Anyway, if you don't want to talk, I'm fine with that. You've made up your mind. I'm in no position to keep you here. I'm not going to beg you to stay. It's your decision. Plenty of new opportunities out there. If all you want to do is focus on what you can't do instead of what you can do, that's your call.
As for all that snobbishness and guilt tripping you felt like handing out. Don't worry about it. I ignored most of that.
I should add. Usually when this place stresses me right the fuck out, I just go for a walk, quietly. Sometimes I don't come back for a month or more. And I think if you're wrong, and then do decide to come back, most people with a brain won't hold a grudge.
I answered them already. Not in the mood to repeat myself
Not focused on what I can't do. Focused on the opposite. Just not here.
Don't need anyone to beg me to stay. Why would you beg me? You don't even know me lol
I'm sure you have never gotten to know me even though we have been here almost three years. I've visited your posts several times. Entertained by your stuff.. upvoted it... Even got yelled at by you for filling your comment section by chatter. Lol
I'm all chattered out. Explaining myself one more time doesn't make my voice any louder.
I'm not the only one who has made up my mind. The top 20 have made up their minds too. That's the great thing about life. We can all make our own decisions and live with them.
So then we all need to figure out what our line is and take our leave when it hits that line. When HF21 passes the way it is... That's my line.sorry I don't agree with your "raise".
As far as you upvoting my posts... I'm pretty sure that this is the first post you have every upvoted for me lol
So... You really will not miss me at all. Lots of people leave and they aren't missed for very long. Who thinks so highly of themselves to think they were that important here? You and I... We ran in different circles, and that's cool. It's a big place.
You can keep upvoting all the people you normally upvote and find some newbies to support. They will need it after HF21 goes through.
Have a nice night and keep making your wild art. Enjoy Steem! You seem to a lot, it will need lots of people like you.
I'm not going nowhere, been through everything this place can throw at me. I'm going to call your bluff though. I don't think you're leaving. LOL!
Tah-tah!
Here's a good read by the way:
https://www.palnet.io/life/@nonameslefttouse/seems-quiet-here-scroll-through-my-blog-someday-and-read-the-comment-section-and-of-course-this-title-has-nothing-to-do-with-the
I hate when I'm irritated and people make me laugh! lololol grrrrr! yes. you got me laughing with that last comment.
but now that we're getting to know one another..... lol
ask anyone...I am as stubborn as they come. to a fault, and I admit it.
but I never... EVER... bluff.
if I set my mind to something, I will do it.
there is only one way I would continue posting - and that means you don't get your raise. lol sorry, not sorry
if they drop the 50/50 from the EIP, and leave it for more discussion, more ideas, working together, I would have hope again. not just in the system... but in their willingness to back down and hear.
but they seem unwilling to do that. that speaks volumes to me.
I worked very hard to work up to my 805 shares of SBI. I just gave them ALL away because I won't be posting after HF21 passes the way it is.
that's the value of 805 steem. does that seem like a bluff to you? lol
gave it away to a newbie I believe in, cuz I would like to leave the way I lived on steem. helping people.
p.s. I think I felt the same way as you...until I watched Welcome Wagon be decimated. that was absolutely devastating to me. for what? for nothing that worked in HF20. I gave more to WW than anything else I have given here and it was destroyed for nothing but another "experiment"
if it was just me? I would probably roll with the punches, like you. people tend to sacrifice more when it's just for themselves.
but I remember losing every single person I trained over a year. and those trainings were intense. and they were real people. not just numbers
and I did it to make steem better. and it was working so well that everyone was amazed. and then they shit all over the platform... for nothing.
sigh. so yeah, I really can't watch that all over again
this is gonna hurt small accounts all over again. harder.
they want us to leave. i think they want it to be more about gaming actually. it's a better money maker than blogging.
they'll keep making it harder on bloggers until everyone gets the hint. I'm just picking up what they're throwing down before you.
if I find a new place...I'll be sure to call you over ;)
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I already know you a little bit.
That's something I knew about you; and I don't hold shit against people for being themselves.
They ignored everyone, for two years. These changes are one of the first times they're actually listening. I do realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but even I was speaking about a 50/50 split LONG before any of this current madness.
I can even explain to you how an author can make serious bank by taking a 10% cut. If you encourage people to sign on and curate, with incentives, we could be sitting here with tens of thousands of votes on our posts, much like how Youtube has now. In order for curators to earn, they'd need a share in 90% or they wouldn't see a dime, with tens of thousands taking a share. On the other hand, if a producer were to take a 50% cut, they'd earn FAR TOO MUCH, if tens of thousands of people were voting and had at least a few pennies worth of SP and up. This is all actually some pretty basic business common sense stuff. I'm a content producer, I'm prepared to take a hit at first, and I want to see this place marketed to curators, so those thousands of votes get applied to my work.
I voted for my comment. I did that on purpose to show you what everyone else is doing today. They self vote. I could have self voted 10 times today and earned more than my actual work received. That's not cool, so something needs to be done.
The honest answer is: I think you're making irrational decisions.
Do you know what the reality of this business is? Millions of people on Youtube who've worked daily for 5 years. Many of them have yet to see a dime. There's too much entitlement on this platform. It's been like that from the start. Those new people would have benefited more if someone encouraged them to buy some STEEM, power it up, gather earnings, and plant those seeds, instead of eating them. You do realize I started with nothing here, right? Nearly everything I earned, except for a tiny percentage during the all time high, that money stayed here.
You see all of that work on my blog in art form, correct? If this place dies, I'm fine. I don't want it to die though. There's a lot more going on that's good, than there is that's bad, these days. With so many people yelling around about problems though, it's hard to see the good. I promise you if this hardfork goes through, it'll be a huge shitstorm at first and many people won't have the guts to handle it. Out with the old, in with the new, unfortunately.. but that's how it goes. This shit ain't child's play. Gotta have a thick skin. Most days I want to rip it's face off!!!!! But I just keep going.
And those wealthy ones. I don't fear that. Those are just people. Call them a "whale", everyone psychologically thinks 'big'. They're the same size as me.
You know me and you don't upvote me!?!?! Lololololol
Joking
I really hope it works. I just don't have the heart for it anymore.
I really don't
I don't think it will work, and i can't watch it fail more. It's too sad.
I understand you think my decisions are irrational.
But you know else was irrational? Me writing my book here making maybe $100?? Total??? And NOW releasing the sequel???
For what?
Cuz it's not about the money. It's about engaging with the community. And I loved seeing people guess what would happen next. And get all heated that a character made a choice they didn't like...
Lol it was worth more to.me than money
And everyone thought I was irrational.
Giving away lots of steem and doing contests live and playing with people in shows...
That was irrational too. But it made me happy.
I'm not happy anymore. It still isn't about the money. Its about respecting people. The catalyst is just money. I think it's irrational to stay.
We did have 50/50 before.. and they changed it back then. We don't know if it was the 50/50 that failed or other things cuz they lumped too many things in together to isolate what worked.
Glad to see they are learning from their mistakes....
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You say that. But deep down it's clear, the money thing is the issue. Don't deny it. This is why I suggest, rather than committing "Steemicide" as they say, I suggest you walk away, without burning bridges, without scaring people, without hurting yourself. Just take a few steps back, gather yourself. The place will still be here when you get back. You said you lost money anyway, so why care about what's left? It's only money. You'll miss the people. That's why I'm calling your bluff again! HA! Just take a break.
Lol I swear to you.
It is not the money.
I told you... If it was 50/25/25 I would be fine.
The money is the same cut for.me. but it's not going someplace i don't agree with.
THAT is the issue
I think it's a bad move and i think sometimes you need to not support bad shit lol
I'm not walking away burning any bridges at all. I'm going to the alliance meetup next year and planning on being in the committee whether I'm here or not lol
I can still be here without posting.
I'll never lose the people. I love them (thank God for discord I say!! Lol)
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I won't even mention the part about how a post now with $200 next to it means sometimes more than 99% went to a "curator" and the author came out of there with 1%. I don't even know if that would mean anything to you, or even make sense.
(p.s. most of started with nothing lol it was easier back then..we know that
Thr newbies coming on now will find it difficult to stay... But perhaps that's what they want. A comolete overhaul in the platform.)
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It's not supposed to be easy. And it wasn't easier when I started. It really picks my ass when people say that. All they have to do is scroll down to my beginning here and watch me earn nothing.
It WAS easier. Lol
I'm not saying it was easy
But why don't you do a little experiment....
Open a new account and don't tell ANYONE it's you.
Post different things than your tell tale art...
Test to see how long it would take to grow under the new regime
It would be a fun experiment!!
And when you were a whale in 6 months... You could rub it in my face 😝
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Why would I rebrand myself? It was hard enough, and still hard, to be where I'm at today. What would you expect me to do? Shit post? Be like some of the new amateurs? Do things to blend in? Do everything wrong, to make it harder for myself, then say, "Yeah, you were right"?? It's not easy today, it wasn't easy then.
Lololol no I meant for you to actually try .. to see if it's possible for people to grow as newbies here now.
I bet it's harder now
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My eyes are swimming...I replied to comments all day lol
Night noname
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See ya under tomorrows bluff post!
Ha!!!! Didn't go to bed yet. But going now! Lol
Tomorrow's post will be a real post. Because HF21 hasn't happened yet
I will tell everyone the rest of my sequel will be free to all my subscribers, and ask them to join a mailing list so i can get that to them.
Then I'll keep posting Fireflies and other posts until HF happens.
I will stop posting when that goes through, as proposed.
Sheesh. It's like you don't even listen to me.lol
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Thanks! I don't remember guilt tripping you but .. if you felt guilt, I guess you have something to be guilty for 😜
And that's the first time I've been called a snob! Hehehe
I kinda like it. I shall now start sipping tea with pinky extended and look down my nose at the riff-raff! Lolol
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I didn't look away. I looked right here and saw you voting on your own comment.
That's right. Does it look like I do that all the time? Is this that perfect opportunity for you to ignore anything good I may have done in my life so you can point out that one bad thing you saw today, with the hopes of what? Making me look like a bad guy? I'm pretty sure I got that covered, buddy.
Fascinating exchange of thoughts folks.
I was initially vexed at these changes because of reading the headlines of author rewards getting slashed by up to 33% possibly more (in the short term). But then I thought "hang on a second, I can take my delegations back and carry on curating and get bigger rewards for it".
Personally, when faced with a challenge like this, the emotional response always takes first spot, we're humans, it's how it works. Then the logical system kicks in and I can see the intention of the changes to stop bots and bid bots taking over (although they kinda already have) and encourage engagement via curation.
If it means more people vote on your post (and fingers crossed it will) then potentially, it will make a big difference to authors.
It's all ifs and buts right now, we won't know for sure and this is all an experiment anyway. You'll always have bad actors in any platform so I don't think powering down and leaving is the right decision.
Emotions are high, understandable. I've invested a lot of time in to this platform, not money, and got to where I am now from changing my approach multiple times to see what resonates the most with people to give me a fighting chance to grow my account.
Let's face it, any new person coming to the platform expecting to make thousands in their first month is deluded, I don't want those type of people here anyway. It's a long term thing, we're talking about years, of making connections, building your account. This is a totally new model of earning from content, the likes we haven't seen before and the development on the steem blockchain is unrivalled against other blockchain social media platforms in the space.
After long discussions and much thought, I won't be going anywhere and want to stick around to see the platform succeed. I'm not going back to FB that's for sure!
Take some time out, I think emotions have been high on such a delicate subject and things become clear when you step out of the furnace.
Take it easy
Nicky
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