Guess who has been giving out accurate data on Global Warming?
It is not National Geographic or the UN- IPCC or Pacific Environment Agency or Any other scientific of research body. Its ExxonMobil
In a statement, the company said “Today’s ruling affirms the position Exxon Mobil has held throughout the New York Attorney General’s baseless investigation. We provided our investors with accurate information on the risks of climate change. ” - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/climate/exxon-climate-lawsuit-new-york.html?emc=rss&partner=rss
So are the "investors" sadistic, greedy villains bent on killing off thousands upon thousands of men women and children living in crisis zones like the pacific islands or low lying coastal metropolis facing floods like never before?
Or they can't read and simply do not understand the concepts of "securing the future" even when given the data about how fossil fuels are rapidly changing the very air we breath?
Or Exxon Mobil had better lawyers- who were able to prove a fiction as fact that no sane and reasonably informed individual will accept?
@sarez, Nowadays it's really difficult to believe any kind of report. In my opinion most of them inspire people to self deceive. Stay blessed.
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Oil companies have been lobbying openly and behind the scenes, against restrictions and reduction of fossil fuel consumption for years- In 2013 they spent $150 Million and this does not include Super Pac spending. But the courts have not heard about any of it, - One more effect of pollution I guess.
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Well, first of all, man made global warming is a complete fraud.
It is a living tax. A tax on people living.
A scheme thought up to place another yoke on humanity.
None of the pundits for carbon taxes live a "green" life.
The truth
Lastly, we have produced less CO2 by everybody driving than one, single, active volcano.
Man made global warming is bunk, and a scam to get people to pay a tax.
However, we should be working on cleaning up our pollution.
CO2 is not a pollutant, it is plant food.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas coz it traps heat and solar radiation in the atmosphere. Does the increased amount of CO2 in the climate affect our lifestyle? Yes- increase in temperatures, even marginal, changes the weather patterns and makes the oceans more acidic- Both these are very BAD.
We have only ONE planet so we can not afford to make mistakes which may cause irreversible harm.
Last line brother @builderofcastles even if we agree CO2 is not a pollutant we need to help stop or reverse further rise in global temperatures if we wish to save the Earth for our children.
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Well, that is the biggest lie.
Go see the debunking of Bill Nye the science guy's proof about CO2.
so, you see the two globes and the two heat lamps and supposedly the CO2 filled one heats up more.... BUT! if you look carefully, the thing is not shot in one take as is shown. The same thermometer is seen being used in both globes.
The next thing to point out is how Al Gore proved in his movie "An Inconvenient Lie" that CO2 does not effect temperature.
So, he shows the audience two graphs and says, don't they look like they go together? ANY... no EVERY scientist would put them together and see.
And, why didn't he show this? Because when you put them together you see that CO2 is a trailing indicator of temperature. Meaning temperature causes CO2 levels, not the other way around.
CO2 is not a greenhouse gas.
However, water vapor is.
BTW, there is almost nothing we can do to affect global temperatures.
We are a tick on the back of a dog.
AND! we are at the beginning of an ice age.
Remember Al Gore? He said we don't know why the temperature plunges every time after a steep rise. Well, that is exactly how an ice age starts and works.
It is a cycle. Just like mother earth breathing.
If you are so concerned about the planet and the effect we are having on it, you really need to learn some real science and discard 99% of what the MSM says.
They are trying to sell you a carbon tax.
Maybe the dinosaurs went extinct because they didn't pay for a meteor tax.
In about 250 years the emissions have gone up radically- Earth is doing it all wrong I suppose.
Although temperatures have fluctuated over the course of the planet history, such as previous ice ages, those fluctuations happened over 100s of years.
There is a clear spike in global temperatures in the last 100 years (blue) that can clearly be seen as a spike when compared to temperatures paleoclimate data from the pre-industrialised period (green). The rate of increase in global temperatures is roughly 30-40 times more rapid than any natural period in the Earth's history. So I don't know how people continue to deny climate change - science speaks for itself.
It is also not true that volcanoes produce more C02 than man-made phenomena.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/
Volcanoes produce a total of about 200 MtCO2 annually whereas are global emissions are about 24 billion tons of CO2. Unless of course, Yellowstone blows - then we are all screwed anyway.
Ok, let's say you're 100% correct.
Are you suggesting that Corporate Pollution is not a problem?
Are you suggesting that Sea Level Rise is not a problem?
Are you suggesting that Foreign Oil dependence is not a problem?
I said none of this. So, is kinda hard to answer your query.
I said that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, is not connected to temperature, and any tax on CO2 is a tax on people living.
Pollution is a problem. And we really need to develop better ways of manufacturing.
And, if we, the people, were really for minimizing pollution we would ban imports from China until they clean up their shit.
There is nothing we can do about the sea levels. This ice-age is not man made.
Further, since we do not know the shape of the planet or how it works we do not know if more ice or less ice effects the sea up or down.
If we had the military stop flying, driving, boating all over the planet, we would have plenty of oil in america for america.
If we started investing in real alternative energies like "real solar", geothermal and wave energy we could seriously cut our need for oil. However, this technology puts energy production into the hands of the little people, and so will be fought every step of the way by BigOil.
The vaunted Tesla electric vehicle was built out of a book published in the 70s.
Many other books published at the same time told about how to make cars engines much more efficient. What happened to all of this technology? It was shelved. It was bought up. It was made to never see the light of day.
So, from my point of view you are barking up the wrong tree.
So,
(1) We can agree that Corporate Pollution IS a problem?
(We need stricter regulations and trade deals to bolster environmental protections)
(2) And we can agree that Sea Level Rise IS a problem?
(We need to build sea barriers and or move coastal cities)
(3) And we can agree that Foreign Oil dependence IS a problem?
(We need to cut military budgets)
Have we discovered some COMMON-GROUND?
I'm willing to throw the RED-HERRING of "man-made-carbon-blah-blah-whatever" out the window as long as we can agree on these (3) critical points.
Sorta, but there are two meanings to corporate pollution, or what we could define as externalities (stuff pushed onto the world)
However, there are many areas where our polluting is better than the alternative. Many homes are heated by oil and natural gas. Which is far superior than going back to wood fireplaces.
Why everyone doesn't have a passive solar heated house now is beyond me.
The super-rising gas prices will change this...
There is nothing we can do about the coastal cities.
Great lengths and huge expenses will be spent trying to fight a losing battle.
The mega-city as a source of collecting people to work in factories is over. We should be abandoning these edifices of corruption.
Everything is against the mega-city.
The jobs have left, but people keep holding onto the idea of the job to live the american dream.
Real storms are coming.
Real earthquakes are coming.
and that is on top of Antifa burning the cities from within.
If you are in a city, get out.
If i could just publish plans about how to create energy and people would take them and get the money together and build them, then that would be great.
But, we have groups who are against that. Seriously against that. As in, people wind up dead, against that.
So, in order to work with number 3, we have to expose these groups as the evil that they are.
The Dutch seem to have figured out a fix.
Even if we can't hold the water and hurricanes back, we still need to formulate some kind of plan to move everyone out of harm's way.
Don'tcha think?
Plans have already been worked out.
BUT, the MSM just wants to keep lying about the climate
and very few people are actually doing anything
except calling those people trying to warn everybody "chicken little"
The group that runs the MSM wants that "everyone" to die.
Look at the Georgia Guide Stones
Do you think maybe the MSM just wants to scare everybody for the ratings?
Do you think the GGS are a reliable source of prophecy?
No, the Georgia Guide Stones are not a reliable source of prophecy.
They are an ultimatum set down by the PTB
They are a view into their mind, and their philosophy.
The MSM have been EXTREMELY of one mind when talking about earth essential stuff. The ALL say the same man-made-global-climate-change.
If they really wanted to go for ratings, they would say an ice-age is upon us.
Or half would say global warming, the other half would say ice-age.
That would drive ratings.
But no, every single MSM takes that made-girl and pimps her out as the coming savior of the planet. When there is enough large targets that could sink her ship. None of them bring it up.
Since the MSM speaks GGS speak, then the best explanation is that the same people are behind both.