You know how it is
Quid pro quo? How 'bout quid pro No.
Whether it is corporate interests or that of foreign powers, we know there are lobbies with deep pockets pulling the strings of these dummy politicians who are more interested in securing votes / their power than serving their people.
By the way, I found the unmodified meme on Reddit on /r/dankmemes and felt it was missing something so I added the stickers to illustrate the true driving force for the bad politicians. Money
Now, I not saying it is exclusively a Dem or GOP issue as the corruption has infiltrated both parties.
With that being said, it's an issue that there are broad swaths of voters our there that will vote simply on the basis that someone has an R or a D next to their name. To hell with policy, loyalty to a party that doesn't give a shit about you is more important, AMIRITE?
As time goes by, the more I see Idiocracy as a prophetic documentary.
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People need to stop voting for either party of gangsters.
Yup. They have their people in both parties who are constantly trying to screw us. They'll talk sweet to us first and then start serving the corporations once they get in.
Beginning to think perhaps our problems cannot be solved at the ballot box. Our nation seems to be careening into something and it doesn't look good.
Tbh I am not sure how it can be fixed. Even getting a true populist in may not be enough with the portion of the electorate that holds views antithetical to nationalism.
Our nation is obviously not perfect but doesn't mean there are not associated ideals / principles that we shouldn't hold on to but some seem intent on hitting reset on everything. Almost like they don't want our country to succeed and they live here.
I am convinced that some do not truly understand the ramifications of the changes they are pushing.
Following leaders only leads you astray. Handling your business and working with peers builds functional society. That's what 'we the people' really means, and why the Constitution was a mistake. Handing over responsibility - our responsibility - for defending our rights and effecting society delivered our authority over. Authority and responsibility are necessarily connected.
Read Lysander Spooner, who demonstrates that the US Constitution had failed long before the Civil War. Things have only gotten worse since then. Voting is just delegating.
Don't delegate your freedom.
Holacracy and RCV.
Thanks for reminding me. Still gotta research those.
3rd time today I have seen Idiocracy referenced re our politics...must be something in the air
There's reasons people choose careers, and those reasons are revealed by the careers they choose.
Cops cause crime. Prior to 1900 Americans were armed, there were few cops, and little crime - because defenseless victims were scarce. People were fooled into thinking cops would protect them from criminals. Cops cannot. They can only come after crimes have injured people, take a report, and hopefully go catch the criminal.
However, the Iron Law of Bureaucracy causes agencies to seek ever greater funding, and more crime creates more incentive for funding cops that pretend to protect people from criminals. It's catch and release for violent thieves, as the whole criminal industrial complex profits from them committing crimes.
In the meantime people fooled to think cops protect them don't undertake the responsibility to provide their own security, and defenseless victims abound. Availed of more and more prey, criminals burgeon. The more cops there are, the more powerful cops are, the more defenseless people become, and the more crime there is.
Maybe someone wants to be a cop because they think they can help people by being a cop, but as soon as they start working as a cop that fantasy is quickly disproved. An honest person when proved to be wrong either ceases to be wrong, or ceases to be honest. Any honest cops would get a real job, and cops that remain cops are thugs.
Cops. Cause. Crime.
You make some solid points here and never heard of the Iron Law of bureaucracy but it seems to be on point.
It seems are advocating more of a flag vs hierarchical system that may have worked in an earlier time period but, due to the organization and sophistication of criminal syndicates, command structures are advantageous in the defense thereof.
For similar reasons, I oppose the plans put forth by individuals like Adam Kokesh such as disbanding the military as the organization as there are decisive tactical advantages that are conferred through some degree of centralization but conversely decentralization of authority (not responsibility) also offers its advantages such as in quick decision making bases on close situational awareness.
Don't get me wrong. I do believe I see the shortfalls in the system but my first inclination is to generally place the blame on people and not systems. Consider dPoS systems, things would work perfectly if people didn't act contrary to the design or actively seek exploits.
In the instance of the Iron Law, I would see that as an exploit as well. It's counterintuitive to the system working efficiently. It's akin to the dishonest mechanic looking at a customer's car an inventing a slew of "problems" that didn't exist in the first place to charge more.
In other words, we have a lot of dishonest mechanic bureaucrats that need to be dealt within the system but, even so, believe the system we have now is likely the best we have and this includes a standing army and police force equipped to deal with the of threats against the common man of this modern age.
Of course, there have been mishaps (many of which are personal failures) so we have plenty of room for improvement.
Oh and the swamp creatures in the CIA that fabricate conflict in the world. They should be hung imo. Never considered law enforcement to create crime but if that is being orchestrated for funding at the expense of innocent people. We should off 'em too. It's high order treachery.
Thanks for the super thoughtful reply!
I will only say here that either you are free or are under command.
I am free.
I understand where you are coming from and I do highly freedom. But think where we diverge is what we acknowledge as being requisite for that freedom to be for good.
As I see it, freedom in itself is like a double edged sword. It requires balance otherwise chaos and disorder is magnified to the extent that people are afflicted.
On a deeper level philosophically, would suspect your worldview hinges on a core proposition that mankind is basically good. I have reason to believe this is not the case.
Experientially I think most are provided ample evidence to concur with the claim that there exists a sort of depravity in men but it can be fettered for the collective good.
I know it can be a slipperly slope if we are talking legislation and thus great care should be taken but the clowns in DC haven't done a great job to say the least.
Only we individuals ourselves will our actions, to fulfill our motivations, for good or ill. Freedom is literally an aspect of our beings, and seeking to compel our peers to act as we reckon they should devalues our own freedom. As time passes and psychopaths seek power through duplicity, society becomes more oppressive as overlords gain more power.
The collective is not a person, is not human. It's an agreement between humans, an institution of that agreement. It is inhuman and inhumane, and overlords of individuals forced into a collective that provides all their individual power and authority to them are intent on actually modeling individuals on the collective: to make us as inhuman and inhumane as the collective itself.
Failing to adhere to the foundational principle that individuals are made of rights and freedom as much as flesh and blood ultimately destroys those that have failed to keep the fact of our nature necessary to our society.
People may not be flawless and do only good, but institutions are inhuman, and delegating our human rights and power to them inevitably dehumanizes us.
Now the ultimate dehumanization, transformation of our genes themselves to make of us something inhuman, is actually being undertaken as a result of this failure to stand on true principles.
Today Bill Gates insists that DNA 'vaccines' must be accepted by everyone before they are released from house arrest. Literally transforming sovereign human beings into GMOs is the present consequence of supposing the collective has rights.
It would be nice if all the free people in the world only did good. It is necessary that all people first be acknowledged as free to do as they will for those people to be able to choose to do so. As soon as you compromise that principle, the slipping down the slope of inhumanity begins, and, well, here we are today.
While it is unpleasant work to deal with folks that do not do good, it is possible to prevent them from doing evil when it is proved necessary. When we seek to prevent them from exercising the human right and freedom to choose how to act a priori, we also prevent ourselves from that same right and authority, even to do good, and deliver ourselves to inhuman slavery by effecting collectivism - which overlords inevitably corrupt.
Best to abandon the conceit of forcing people to be good with oppressive collectivism, and just deal with criminals as they require.
Today we are about to face the ultimate consequence of that collectivism, as Bill Gates owns the patent to the genes he seeks to alter humanity to possess, and Monsanto has established precedent at law that such patents create equity, ownership, of the patented organisms. It applies equally to H. sapiens as to maize or soybeans.
Should we be genetically altered by DNA vaccines, we will literally be property of Bill Gates, and no longer sovereign human beings, under extant legal precedent. Not that it will matter to us if he has designed his genetic modifications to cause us to desire servitude. It will be an extinction event, the end of humanity, and the birth of the slave species he will own. Laws will only matter if we have some capacity to be human. Then our enslavement will be hell, not only criminal fraud. Fitting evil consequences for the evil we do seeking to force our judgment on our equals rather than acknowledging they are as free as are we.
So, best we adhere to the principle that our freedom is absolute and inherent in us, and seek to only prevent evil when we must defend ourselves from it, rather than force people to be good out of misguided conceit that we know what's good as a collective.
Institutions are the Antichrist of prophecy. It is free humanity alone that can save our souls.
Better late than never IMHO.
People are basically selfish babies.
If your system fails when it's run by selfish babies, you have a poorly designed system.
Blaming "bad actors" for a systemic failure only perpetuates the "hero myth" and keeps everyone from fixing the fundamental design flaws.
What works reasonably well in tribal groups of less than 200 people (before radio, television, phones, cars, and telegraph lines), selecting a "good" or "reliable" or "respected" "leader", does NOT work well when you try and scale it up to the thousands, not to mention the millions. What you end up with is selecting the most charismatic CON-ARTIST. No intelligent, honest person can survive the back-stabbing shell game we call politics.
For example,
Click to watch 2 minutes,
The Policeman's Dilemma:
(IFF) crime declines (or more specifically if fear of crime declines) (THEN) police staff and budgets are cut.
And since the police apparatus is an organization (organism) it is, by its very nature, self-protecting and focused on promoting its own growth, fomenting fear of crime becomes inevitable.
The same principle applies to any organization (organism).
The Policeman's Dilemma (applied to medicine):
(IFF) cancer declines (or more specifically if the fear of cancer declines) (THEN) research staff and budgets are cut.
Fomenting fear of cancer becomes inevitable.
This is pretty much, as I understand it, the reason for the Iron Law of Bureaucracy. That, and administrators parcel out purchase orders, which offers them opportunities for graft, which greatly incentivizes them to increase their agency budgets.
Cops are satan.
If god doesn't force people to _________, who else could it be?