New STEEM... It's not like OLD STEEM

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As many of you know I am not a huge fan of the EIP economic changes. However, I am a fan of Steem and the change IS marketable.

CALLING FOR A COMMUNITY WIDE MARKETING CAMPAIGN

People think Steem is dead the last they heard from us was the Layoffs.

OLD STEEM was dead, sad and lonely.... Filled with Geeks who want to talk about MATH

NEW STEEM is Fresh and new and exciting. It is filled with humans who want to engage, contribute and help grow and develop Steem. Everyone is onboard on NEW STEEM

We are not making changes because we are sad and scared.

We are making changes because the changes are awesome and FRESH.

I am calling for a full relaunch and Marketing Campaign.

OLD STEEM vs. NEW STEEM

NEW STEEM
New community funding -SPS
New Community Tools - Scot tokens and sites
New Scalability - Mira
New Economic Model - EIP
New Leadership in SteemIt Inc one of our funding and development companies
MOST IMPORTANT
New Attitude - Thriving

OLD STEEM

Rude, Scammy, Bad Economics, Too much GEEK.


We need to package the idea of New, Exciting and Alive Steem.

Please help. It can be done in memes, stories, community-wide and outside.

Once we get some graphics, Posts, Blogs... and yes Memes...

We will start a full community-wide Marketing Campaign.

Personally I don't think the Math matters it is our actions and attitudes that matter.

Time to stop fighting and GET ON BOARD

OLD STEEM is DUMB, NEW STEEM is great.

Outreach ideas so far. (mostly small, need more...)

NathanMars
Theycallmedan
PALNET
Steemit Inc

What else can we do without a budget? Please brainstorm.

OLD STEEM: Didn't work
NEW STEEM: Works.

It's a great campaign designed after old coke and new coke, those of you who tell me you liked old coke better are missing the point, because the campaign is still talked about today!

Write up or Mock up your Ideas and let's build a Community Marketing Effort! We do not have a budget and we need your help and your support!

Use the tag #newsteem

We may never have this many changes at once again, at the beginning of a new bullrun. Let's not miss this opportunity!

@whatsup



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All aboard, the NewSteem Train

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So... electric train?

Haha but i like it. We need a good image of an epic unstoppable train billowing out tons of steam but not dark dirty steem. Some nice billowing white clouds and a really tough train.

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I will back this effort with upvotes. Great initiative whatsup! Whoever post their ideas on this post will get an upvote from me, the well thought ones get the biggest upvotes!

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Here’s an idea 💡- try and reach as many influences (social media, or YouTube IG ect) and have them help us promote Steem. Why do people know who Dan Bilzerian is? Marketing. Influencers. Hot models. Idk if Steem needs hot models per say... but Influencers - YES

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Agreed! Go to some influencer events in and out of blockchain. How shall we best go about this? :)

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@theycallmedan

One idea I had was that we should be able to add and verify our Steemit accounts with Brave Rewards, like you can with youtube etc. It adds another way to make a little without requiring us to post through 3rd party website etc.

As this is a crypto related website then I would imagine a vast number of users are using the Brave browser... Makes sense to me to add this option.

Also Steemit.inc should verify themselves with Brave Rewards as another income stream for themselves too (better than viewing the ads, and also people using brave that the ads are blocked then it gives something back)

I know this isn't a game changing idea for Steemit, but it will create an additional revenue stream for users without any hassle really.

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Mmmm... right idea, but still some room for improvement as woman on right still not that hot...

Perhaps something along these lines, with updated for of “old Steem / #newsteem” :

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Out-reach. As much as many of us hate traditional social media, it's where everyone is. If you have any communities or groups you belong to, bring them up-to-speed. It's not an easy sell, but with the Libra announcement, now may be the time to recruit.

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What about some sort of Facebook apps utilizing FB’s APIs to easily bridge shares there into the #newsteem ecosystem...? 🤔

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Now that is thinking!

#NewSteem

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Well, it’s a start... now hopefully someone reads it and has the know-how to do something with it...! :-)

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Really nice post dude. I think new steem is really good for all of us. The direction now is aimed to curation and holding more steem and tokens. Sounds good for everyone, who wants make investment. I like the changes on dtube with avalon, where we got 100% curation reward. Palnet work too with 50/50. So i see good future for smart tokens and new hf21. Steem on!

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NEWSTEEM!

It's fresh has a new attitude. (I'm not a dude, but no worries)

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Yes!!! No scams on the new Steem..

I would issue a dramtoken.. or sarcastic token :)

Honestly it’s got more viability and possibilities, but it’s all in the daaps.

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Yes it is in the Dapps. It's in the mood.

A new era of STEEM has arrived. Get on board.

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oh I'm on board sister.. I'm commenting and upvoting like I did...I mean like for the first time I joined 2 years ago!

Now if I can only find a circle jerk errrrr community that provides a token to give to each other even though it's based on the old Steem.. errr New Steem.

Oh out with the old in with the new. I'm not sure what is a new other than an attitude change (or lobotomy ). I'll rigorously upvote and comment differently. I rarely downvote.

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So what you are saying is that time would be better spent commenting and upvoting than in creating a post that few read? Time to change habits I guess.

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not at all! You should make posts and upvote them yourself.. comment on those replies and upvote those ;)

It's all about rewarding each other... and yourself LOL!

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Sorry old Steem, but new Steem looks more attractive.

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And looks are what matter most.

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Not ever, but sometimes.

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Look at this meme... just look at it... then ask yourself which one you'd rather see naked in the shower.. 🤣 !tip

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Oh yeah, great way to show yourself off on this blockchain, talking about the leader being naked. Stop being an incel.

EDIT AFTER THIS BLEW UP look @davedickeyyall, not trying to be mean, but just thought I'd let you know your comment feels a little creepy and lame. I'm sure you're a nice guy, no hate involved here, just trying to let you be aware. Have a good day friend!

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New Steem, lead by example.

:)

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....do I get drama tokens for my own personal take on things...??

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I am leading by example: My example.

The last thing I'd want is for people to come on here and see everyone keeping their opinions to themselves and being all like:

Look I appreciate your enthusiasm, but let's not lose our individual spirit, eh?

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Same Here, Same Here!

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That is soooooooo Old Steem of you. Shame on you.

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....virtue signalling while at the same using the white power symbol?MMmmmm...
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lol.

You think that 'your leader' is above being thought about freely?
Cuck, much?

Your 'leaders' attitude, not mine....

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Old Steem Behavior will not help you earn 15 bucks worth of steem a day.

New Steem! Get on board.

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11 out of 10 for you post and enthusiasm!! lol
(you should be in marketing).

Only 3 out of 10 for your choice of product to market, though.Sorry.

(I've given up on being 'mr popular' on this social media site. lol).

I'll be a voice of sanity- there seems bugger all of it right now, in this particular insane asylum.

'old steem behaviour' doesn't go away because you want it to. Human behavior will always take precedence over wishful thinking.
We wouldn't be where we are right now if this would be addressed/understood in the first place.

The market sees it, (price and ranking) ....I wonder why can't people within the steem ecosystem, can't?

An excellent motivational post though, irrelevant of my personal thoughts about steem.

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New Steem is better. Nothing you can say can ruin it. Get on board. :)

Don't miss out you have always been one of my favs. Make a community for your group that was abused. New Options... New Steem.

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Are you flirting with me? lol

I wont be really posting much or 'anything' for the next couple of months at least.
( my other venture is taking most of my time at the moment).

Still watching the show, though- and butting in!

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:) take your time.. we will be here.

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I've given up on being 'mr popular' on this social media site

Were you ever? 😎

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how can I earn $15 bucks of steem a day?

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Buy enough sp?

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and then upvote myself.. yah.. I should have bought when it was $7 a STEEM.. great investment.

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Well, you missed the .07usd days.
The folks that bought then are running bots.
Raking it in.
Dropping the price.
Smdh.

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....just scroll the picture up and down, old steem, new steem....see it works every time, guaranteed.

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he thinks the 'ok' symbol is a white-power symbol... oh no, is he retarded?

he thinks hes used the word 'cuck' correctly... oh dear, he surely is retarded...

checks profile bio: "Patriot truth seeker."

hahaha you almost had me there mate! Nice attempt at trolling, but there was too much retardation in your post to feel legit 👌👌👌

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I can't help it. Feel free to flag my comment ... #funwithflags #freeflags

Oh wait you've only been on the site 2 minutes...

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Oh wait you've only been on the site 2 minutes...

lol What? What are you trying to get across with this sentence? I'm not gonna flag you mate, I'm just letting you know how cringe that comment was :)

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My point is.. you don't know me... maybe leaving obnoxious sexual innuendo filled comments with plenty of expletives is my niche...

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Good niche mate, just letting you know it comes off cringey. I hope you continue striving 👌

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YUP it is a sexist remark, borderline sexual harrasment! You could get fired from a job for saying something like that, or worse!

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Yea, in today's climate you probably would get fired. Not calling for that though, sometimes people just need to be made aware of how the stuff they say comes off to other people.

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He was probably just kidding, I read between the lines, I think it was just his way of saying he has a secret crush on her! I DO too! lol That's why I "flagged" her the other day!

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If I said it I would have been burned at the stake! OKieDokie!:)boy!

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This is insane seeing them side by side, it actually looks like ned transitioned

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-"She still embodies the awful stereotypes she did before!"

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-"But she's got a new hat!"
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New Steem has shown to be just as fucking useless as Old Steem.

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Yeah, because you are still here! You are old steem, lol! So funny you don't even realize that yet, after the hard fork you will be without a spork to self feed! I can't wait!

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Has @ned left? Heard absolutely nothing from the bloke for ages

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New Steem=free flags vs ol'steem=unfree flags it's better than clear Pepsi..

Tagline: steem, because something is better than nothing and you can't buy a thing with nothing.

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I'm a walking billboard for STEEM!

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I've been around for a little over two years, and be it old STEEM or new STEEM, I'm in this game for the long haul!

I'll see what I can throw together in terms of marketing materials, and I've had a "Why STEEM?" article planned for a couple weeks that I could use to start my new wave of trying to get friends and family involved. I'll post everything I make as soon as I find some time around work and being a full time single father 😉

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I didn't even know you were that hardcore man haha... yes, we got some exciting things going to come down for NEW steem just watch! I'll let you know so you can include your "Why STEEM?" piece. Good to see you around! Hope all is well buddy.

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How did you of all people not know about my steemtats? 😁

I've been getting better. After having my head turned inside out by the love of my life, I'm finally putting the pieces back together and regaining some of my old motivation and creativity.

Good to hear from you, bro! Hmu on discord anytime!

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This is called commitment.

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Wow - you're the first person I know of that has Steem tats! Amazing!

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Keep up the good work as a writer, worker, and father.

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That's the Old Steem logo. You need to update to New Steem logo.

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So just white out what I have, and fill in a circle around it? Meh.

It shows how long I've been down I suppose 🤷‍♂️😁

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First try of the SPS? Marketing funding and direction seems like it would be a good use of the pending new system. It has always been one of the more pressing issues but generally relegated to the back burner.

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Agreed.

On New Steem we will have a fund for Community Progress.

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This is a great idea and the leadership from @nathanmars and @theycallmedan and others have been great.

I am sure their intent was to have folks rally behind them but also strike out on their own. If we are all leaders and making the charge to advertise steem, that is the marketing we need and you hit it on the head.

I usually do my marketing in the form of one on one which would make it more sales I guess. What would be great is a nice place for plankton to land and make immediate friends. To have a few other plankton as friends and a few dolphins and whales to drop occasional upvotes as a bonus to get them excited and producing good content. #powerhousecreatives is an awesome group but made up of mostly veterans and not a welcoming ground for newbies.

There are probably groups like that out there but something official or structured would be cool.

So not just marketing, but care and feeding of the new folks who come because of the marketing.

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New STEEM will help out new users. And yes I agree we need to support onboarding efforts and curation efforts.

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I think that is an excellent idea ... if we add a curation trail to the best new content producers so they see consistent reward, that will incentivize more good production from all those coming on board. The stats I'm looking at say we're getting 1,400-1,500 news folks into Steem every week ... imagine if we had them all engaged and regularly producing and powering up and excited to be here!

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Spread the word !

This is important.

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I’m down to help. This initiative aligns exactly with my attitude.
I’ll commit to making an attempt at a funny video in next 2 weeks... new steem vs. old steem.

I would also like to voice my very strong opinion that a main thing that holds steem back is the bullshit trending page. It’s a well talked about subject. But it seriously hurts us. So many new people look there first and leave. We desperately need a ‘real trending’ that shows actual popular content that is spreading organically not paid for.
Would be amazing to rally a resteem callout initiative ....pointed at the front ends... like @busy @Partiko @steempeak @esteem
Time for waiting for steem inc to fix this obvious need is over. Like steem engine did with SMT’s time to beg borrow and steal to make this vital need a reality. (Pet peeve rant over). 🔥 to new steem!!

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And market this as a focus on Diversity and DECENTRALIZATION.
Multiple interfaces to this one application of Steem shows a push towards decentralization of content. How silly for a place like medium to only have one centralized interface that doesn't even give you options on how to consume the content people make.

Turn the tables. y'all

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I think the best way to promote Steem is by promoting apps built on Steem. Users will create a Steem account to use these apps and then discover the rest of Steem.

We just submitted the @travelfeed Beta to ProductHunt and would be happy about support from the community for our dApp https://www.producthunt.com/posts/travelfeed-beta

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Apps are one of the strengths behind NEW STEEM for sure

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I feel like the largest portion of people that use and know cryptocurrency are on twitter for a mass social media and that is where we would gather the most engagement. But I also believe we need to encourage investors with money then just users.

Users are nice but if all they are doing is writing and not buying it simply decreases the price of steem. We need to encourage fresh money to come in and why its a good idea to stake in steem and build on the steem blockchain.

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All tokens are mined and sold by the miners, we have to stop saying dumb things. That is OLD STEEM

This is NEW STEEM.

Bitcoin is mined and sold. We need to create demand and this is demand.

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I don't want to rain on your parade but as long as the main stakeholder dumping steem en mass on the exchange, don't expect positive results.

Stop dumping and bring steem to $2 and we don't need any marketing. Masses will flow in like back in good ole times.

Until then is just a waste of time.

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so much rain... We need demand either way, people control money. Excitement and fun bring money.

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It seems to be helping create a slightly more level distribution and stake holding. If one wants stake there seems no better time... though that is not financial advice bla, bla, bla. 😎

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...as long as the main stakeholder dumping steem en mass on the exchange, don't expect positive results.

There's this and there's also the likely additional downward pressure on prices that we'll see from new "projects" dumping tokens acquired through the SPS in order to fund "development." So, it seems that HF21 might just be a wash in terms of STEEM demand and prices.

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Holy shit, someone finally sees the big picture! Congrats @ats-david! DING! DING! DING!

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Thanks for acknowledging that!

Sadly, none of the consensus witnesses seem to agree with this. They finally get something kind of right with the EIP (after 2+ years of utter crap), then ruin it with more of the same "old Steem" mentality.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Seems to always be the trend around here.

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I actually think some of that is likely to happen. I also think the stakeholders and witnesses have earned it.

As some like to say, we've built a second layer on the top of the broken first layer.

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You better power down, sell and get out while the getting is good old boy!

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You have been rewarded with some SHIT! Take a trip to the bathroom to stake and manage your worthless tokens.

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I'm very happy with the changes in the last few months, and optimistic with what's coming ahead. However, I advise caution and not get too carried away with marketing yet. I'd rather see things being delivered, than remain as promises. When everything is ready and polished (user interface, user experience, SMTs, communities, blockchain scaling/optimization, dealing with abusers, etc...), then we can go full speed on marketing: look investors, see what we are today, join the party. Then, and only then, we will see STEEM's value skyrocket.

Staying positive is good in #newsteem, but I don't want to see history repeat itself.

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That is OLD STEEM thinking.

NEW STEEM delivers.

Also, many projects market as a work in progress and that is exactly what we are.

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Great meme @drakos... although your comment could have been copy and pasted from 3 years ago. Don't market till we're ready ... Will we ever be ready!?

Cg

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Will we ever be ready!?

I guess that depends on what we mean by "we" and "ready."

The blockchain, in terms of functioning as a currency, has been ready for a long time. It has all of the needed and marketable features to reach those people actually interested in useful cryptocurrencies:

  • No transaction fees
  • 3-second block times
  • Large storage capacity and scalability

Why isn't this ever the focus for marketing? Why do we need to wait three or more years to market the chain? The content rewards system is just a bonus feature (although an important one), in my opinion. That can be marketed separately or as a secondary set of marketable features.

The secret sauce for Steem is the speed, storage/scalability, and the free transactions. But that won't be much of an advantage forever - and marketing it this way may already be too late. Shouldn't we at least try it though? The content/rewards aspect doesn't seem to be working out too well anyway.

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Whilst I agree they should market, I think it is Steemit they needed to market. No transaction fees, fast block times and large storage do not interest the average person on the street. What does interest them, is a new type of social media site whereby you can make money...

However the horse has bolted and Stinc are trying to shut the barn doors. The time to market would have been 2 years ago, now I think these efforts are too little too late.

Cg

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Wouldn't it be lovely,

if the big Steem owners (who like to sell their huge stake)
offer it to people - who understood that three powerful points you made -
if this people
do a lot marketing for Steem.

The result would be, that the part they did not give away, will have a way ore higher value and all win together.

#JustSaying

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I just told eight people they can now get paid to watch me make an ass out of myself. Explaining STEEM has never been so easy.

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yeah, I'm not even a fan of the changes but I can see where it is a win for some.

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Yeah, I just tried it out.

“Hey, guys! Come join Steem and get paid to create or interact on blog posts!”

“WTF is Steem?”

“It’s NEW!”

Fingers crossed!

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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Thank You for the laugh!
Perfect!

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I'm liking this!!

OLD STEEM

  • Get Rich Quick and Schemes
  • Non intuitive sites (meaning sites that were confusing UI)
  • Focus on one project

NEW STEEM

  • Focus on a diversity of projects
  • Successful money making projects
  • Focus on a diversity of economies with several tokens etc
  • New tools that support projects. Like hivemind.

NEAR FUTURE CONSIDERATION
You could possibly mention communities which are coming sooner than most people think because here's the deal they're just making changes to the Hivemind and some protocols and we don't have to wait for them to make a UI for communities. All the other projects can jump on it as soon as they make the non-blockchain stuff active.
So i'd have that as part of the marketing. Steempeak will jump on the communities quickly if nothing else.
So i see this as:

  • A new focus on there being one company not trying to do everything
  • Also point out companies new focus to live within their means... starting with SteemIt cleaning up their financials.
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claro,,,, la idea es que todos podamos contribuir para mejorar cada vez mas ... saludos

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I agree with the sentiment, I am looking forward to the changes. Communities are my thing as I have my community idea but it would only for the UK as worldwide it would be too cumbersome and this is one of the problems for steem as it's far too noisy and posts tend to get lost among all the clamour, something that would be relevant for a small region does not always translate to a worldwide stage but at the same time you can on board people just as much by making content relevent.

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Yeah me too.
Have you gone to the new post by steemit and per chance looked at their new document explaining what they're thinking about doing for the backend support? I wish more people should respond there.
I worry people will come in after it's done and say... "why did you do it that way?" And we'll be like... "ummm we were asking about it". haha

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OldSteem thinking.

If we embrace and work on newsteem, oldsteem falls away.

You make content relevent with eyes on the site and upvotes and downvotes.

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But I like get rich quick schemes. Steemit was more fun when people made money tbh.

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I so want the #newsteem....

Would publish my ideas and suggestions soon..

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And soon you will get upvotes.

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Your trolling and drama is old steem.

New Steem shows our best face.

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Yeah, I will give it a try!

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That's the spirit my friend! see much better , right? :)

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Yes it does feel much better already! Thanks, and sorry about my rude comments before, I didn’t really mean them. 🙏

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I like math, but I agree. As always nice work and I look forward to seeing what comes out of this

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Well I guess it's okay if you talk about Math, but let's do it on NEW STEEM

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I second the motion as a Marketing campaign will be the best thing that will happen to the New #Steem. Thriving to publicize the potentials of our blockchain will help a long way for us to achieve the success of the platform. I just noticed that a lot of capitalists as well as investors would really love to get involved with Steem but they haven't heard of it just yet. I want to applaud @nathanmars and @theycallmedan for the outstanding work they are doing so far.
Cheers!

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Yes and we need more than that! We need to raise some funds for real marketing

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old steem=happyness ///// new steem= probably a joke

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complaining is OLD STEEM.

NEW STEEM is fun and exciting.

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about devolopment and website quality u are right thats true , but active user number is decreasing = bad site more user //vs// good site less user

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that's because no one wants to come here and listen to THIS. *

make it fun and exciting and people come.

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OLD STEEM
Rude, Scammy, Bad Economics, Too much GEEK.

WOW! You blaming me for the failure? It wasn't my fault! It was the idiots running basic bots, and the other idiots unwilling to try to fix things.

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Yea but it still looks scammy thug life to me lol
if you can think of something that can be done about the persistent problem of the self appointed bureau of troll enforcers of acceptable content.

Without addressing the power of that group of accounts, this place is doomed.

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This is OLD STEEM behavior. We do not act like this on NEW STEEM. Get on or Get off.

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Not sure exactly what you are referring to as being, OLD STEEM behavior.

My bringing it to attention or, the actual behavior of that group of accounts which I am claiming is a problem for building engagement on the platform and token value? which is old steemit?

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Trolling is OLD STEEM. From either side.

We are changing the culture now.

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: ) that is a very nice idea.
I do have a question. How?
mmmm maybe by being the longest pendulum. Metaphorically speaking

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b the change!

#newsteem

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It takes more than saying 'there is no weeds' to get rid of the weeds.
Be the change is a great saying and if you look at the mans actions who coined that phase, they were defiant actions. Not polite at all. He spoke openly about the truth of the situation. It would not have worked if all he did was refuse to even acknowledge the problems

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this is what i really wish to happen, no more troll and falg wars, just be happy, : )

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I honestly do not know what to say about the old verse new, what has really changed? A HF is on us. They told us what was going to be in it. Just like the last HF, what is in it has grown and we were told at last minute. So far the only updates on the HF are the additional - Oh yeah and here is this we decided to add at the last minute - with no chance for the community to discuss it. SO what is new. We were given a Communications Director, and what communications has he given us on the HF, no progress reports of the test are going fine, no time frame being communicated as to when they expect the witnesses to validate or not validate the changes. In the mean time more items are being stacked on top of the HF with out community input. kind of reminds me of the last poll that was open for a whopping 1 day at most maybe they had.

I am sure that someone thinks the additions of the vote window and the JSON data stuff are important, but with the change and no discussion of the requested additional changes does not indicate to me we have a new steem verse old steem, seems the names and faces have been changed but the behavior is still the same.

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Behavior changes because we change it. This is NEW STEEM.

OLD STEEM is dead. this is a redo.

Get on board!

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I am sure that someone thinks the additions of the vote window and the JSON data stuff

In NEW STEEM , we don't talk geek or speak MATH. It is forbidden!

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On New Steem Justine can Meme! :)

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😂 I did meme it up today! New Steem is magical! I can even meme!!

I’ll just drop these all here...

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Ok, ok.. I should slow down.. I don’t want to hurt myself. #newsteem on!

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so what is the URL for NEW STEEM?
or is it just campaign?

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It's a campaign. But not JUST a campaign it is a new way to treat our investment.

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Love this initiative. While recognizing the pessimistic past, looking forward to an optimistic future.

One of the most brilliant marketing that I have heard of was done by a Russian band of orphans Laskovy May. This is what they did: This took place the mid 80s believe. They had a truckload of cassette tapes (literally). They made copies of their album. Went to the train stations and started giving away these cassettes for free to travelers and train conductors. It is believed that is how they became popular.

So, what I would suggest is some groups like @steemonboarding or @steemalliance or anybody else creates media kits for marketing so that every Steemian can use. Then anybody can print them out and post them at every bus stop, stores, message boards, schools, universities, work, etc everywhere around the globe. Designate a day every season to take action. No need to talk to people, no need to make pitches, just post the printed marketing material.

Of course, this would only work if there was a fast sign up system. Steemit Inc never resolved this issue even with free RC account creation. If people need to wait a week or two to get an account all efforts are useless. In this age, nobody waits that long to create an account.

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We will get people signed up... Many of us including myself have accounts.

@justinw, I don't know who to tell, if you guys need help.. Come to us.

NEWSTEEM

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For the record, it was the Actifit app and Steem Basic Income that re-ignited my passion for Steemit. They're worth looking into if you haven't already.

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Apps are a great part of New Steem.

There is something for everyone on NewSTEEM

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You forgot #weedcash and #sportstalk ...

Anyway.. I'm not the idea man.. I'm a active blogger who loves the old STEEM.. but am open minded enough to look forward to #newsteem

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NewSteem starts today and we all push it. Old Steem is dead.

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So just as I was falling asleep I had a brilliant idea.. what about a community just for kids... #kidzone or something snazzy like that.. someone like @dreemsteem would be perfect to curate it... alright there's my idea.. back to sleep

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Actually the more I think about it the more brilliant it becomes.. create a special token for them.. but set up a exchange where they can trade those tokens for shit they want.. like Amazon gift cards... I tunes and Apple cards..

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Old steem:

If you think that our community is the equivalent of a Wikipedia article about Steemit

New steem:

No hype, no fluff, just walking the talk as the most active blockchain.

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Let’s together make our NEW STEEM more powerful

Six months in crypto is very long time and my vision is to make $7.77 STEEM

We STEEMians need to believe in ourselves first before we believe in STEEM

We want to close this year with $7.77

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Yes, and please ask your people to use the tag

#newSTEEM on twitter. Talk about New Steem.

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I welcome New STEEM

Every single minute I'm thinking over and over again what can I remove from PushBook model & Seven77 Challenge

SPUD came and went
STEEMClan came and went

Seven77 is here to stay months and years to come with STEEM

I've already saw few STEEMians are suing #newSTEEM on Twitter and I'll use in few of Tweets as well. However Seven77 Challenge remain same without any addition of new hashtags and continue to add STEEMians every single day

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Thank you! I support 777 and I support NewSteem

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They are literally suing? Did you say sue, as in legally in a court of law or what does that mean?

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When you take ownership of all your flaws and weaknesses, you ve won

I'm constantly cultivating to blame myself for everything

Sometimes I blame others to push our STEEM and STEEMians forward

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As long as the blame is a form of inspiration.

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Definitely all my blames is a form of inspiration

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Well, what matters most for me is that, I have been here since Day 1 till the present day and never did thought of quitting STEEM even if it's old or new but, this time, The NEW ONE looks awesome!!! :D

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Love it!

Absolutely love it. Call me an optimist, but I think this is exactly what this blockchain needs.

Excited to get my thinking cap on and fire off some memes....Plus talk about it a lot with my community.

Awesome stuff!

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This is a much welcome initiative. I've made posts about a few instances of marketing of Steem on social media that I've done. I like your approach. That's the spirit! I'll use the tag!

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It is a culture.. We will set it

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PEDOPHILE WARNING - FLAGGED FOR PEDOPHILE CONTENT

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seriously knock this off. This is dumb.

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PEDOPHILE WARNING - FLAGGED FOR PEDOPHILE CONTENT

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@whatsup,
100% agree with what you said and the meme explained all! One more thing that I tried to tell at the community feedback forum is bring the true experience of social media like FB, Twitter posting into STEEMIT! Yeah that might not work with current rewarding system, but blogging gets rewards and we absorb FB like social media platform into us with a new token!
Anyway now i feel we are moving forward, with SMT and etc we will move to top 10 CMC ranking as well!

Cheers~

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New Steem is exciting, it is fun it is moving forward.

We know it isn't totally fixed. But it is NEW and Better!

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You know what your problem is ?

You make too much damn sense....

best of luck to us

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Great idea, too bad stinc just hides out in their “Corp” office god knows doing what 😂

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Community Sourced Marketing! Let's new this.

Old Steem is dead this is NEW STEEM

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Community Sourced Marketing!

Umm...this was tried two years ago with Marketing Guy.

We got $10,000 signs at a dog park.

This just sounds like old, new Steem.

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This is a great idea and message to send as those of us that have remained are committed to the long term success and value of the ecosystem instead of the value extraction that happened and led to the devaluation of the platform.

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New Age Steem! For the New age user

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I think the solution is more geeks. But we need geek diversity! Fashion geeks. Fitness geeks. Science geeks. This will give us a vibrant ecosystem of passionate content creators that will continue to expand!

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Okay, geeks are welcome, but they can't bore us with Math Curves.

No one is excited about Math Curves. Except 10 people.

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The geeks on steemit are not even excited about these curves....

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.....which is shame, because the rest of the world is .
(well, nearly half of it) ..... and is worth billions of $ annually...

The virtue signalling 'woke'soy boys/girls is one of the reasons I'm not putting my venture here on steem. (There are other reasons to).

aaaaaaaand back to the 'understanding of human behavior'....or not, as the case may be.

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Check today's eve's post for curves.

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Those are nice curves. I officially approve them and will test them out ASAP.

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I like those curves!

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I am now feeling very New Steemy now!

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OK, fine, I'll talk to Keanu about joining social media and using the other guys to tell the world he chose steem.. Ahem, "new steem"

Who knows Bey ?

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How about we all Subscribe to the steemit.com Youtube Page .... everyone on Steemit Subscribe so that they have 1 Million subscribers and the Marketing Team of Steem and every blogger here on Steemit submit videos to be shared and Steemit earns an extra $100,000 per month from Youtube Ads. I have 4,000 Subs and earn $100 per month from Youtube..... just imagine how much Steemit could make if they had 1 Million subs watching their videos....

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Not a bad idea... I appreciate the numbers for comparison ... Steemit wouldn't make quite $100,000 a month with a million subs if your figures hold. It would be better: $250,000.

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@whatsup New steem is great but can you fix this issue below?
This is one of the great users who bring many people on this platform, but still they are flaging her posts, you can even see her page became invisible though she still posted, I would like new steem to fix this issue:

https://steemit.com/palnet/@lyndsaybowes/viewing-the-steem-blockchain-through-pal-coloured-glasses

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I can fix the issue. Head straight over to PAL . They have whales and a community that cares.

I like Lyndsay too, flagging her is OLD STEEM. Now we have options.. This is New Steem.

(and yeah I disagree with Bernie on this and lost his friendship over it.)

But our whales are pussies who will not upvote her. We fix that on New STEEM.

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Thanks for reply, that's great, I get it now :) , you are right.

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New Steem Features:

  1. A great mobile phone app for steemit which makes people leave instagram and join steemit because of its special and great features.

  2. Sign up is working so fast and peoole can easily sign up and after 30 minutes their account is ready to use (I bring a friend and his account is still not created after a week)

  3. Users are able to pin one of their posts to their blog's main page, so if someone open their page they will see the user's intro post or etc.

  4. Steemit team care about users and listen to their ideas and if they dont like the user's ideas they will tell the reasons why.

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Ok, after sleeping on this for a night I'm convinced. I try to shill it to my ct followers on twitter!

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Loving this "new Steem" meme. Ride it all the way to the top?

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Remember the good old days of Steem clothing and merchandise, if you want to be #steemproud you can still grab some merch here and get it drop shipped wherever in the world you may be!

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Great to hear and always love your ideas! Love to help in ways that I may. Am always around some (where). Inviting people here and there too like @brockpierce for example and handing out some steem monsters cards and looking for more ways that may be rewarding to myself and others so we may grow together in community and more.

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Hi @virtualgrowth! I enjoyed meeting you at Steemfest2. I know exactly how you can help Steem out. Coinmarketcap would love to have their Steem account which you seem to have the keys to. If you'd like to help onboard a big name in the industry who's literally asking to be here, you can help by giving up the keys to the @coinmarketcap account - and not just the posting keys this time please. Thanks!

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Hmm...some people only want to "help" if they can name-squat in order to "protect" the big names...and then sell the keys if/when those people finally show up. I wonder if that's the case here.

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Ha, yes this would help! PS. They are really dying to be here?

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We've spoken with them at least a few times over the last 6 months or so about this - I believe they recently asked @birdinc about it again while he was respresenting us at a bitcoin conference in SF last week.

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New Steem is much better than the old one. But, we need his price to increase a little bit 😁

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it takes some time to onboard some new folks here :) maybe some have more than others and that's the sharing programme :)

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Too much of anything is bad, but too little is equally bad. When you have too many Geeks there are chances to get new things coming onboard on time. But since the layoff it seems like development is moving in snail's pace.

This blockchain needs new things every now and then to keep people engage.

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That's a really great idea!

What we can imo, is using the Steemit subreddit (r/steemit or maybe r/steem) more. There is virtually no activity there and if people go there, they won't find a sign of activity.

If everyone would at least upvote some posts there then and now, it would look much better.

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I'm excited about the coming changes. Let's see how things turn out. Personally I think Mass education like the coinbase earn program can help with marketting.Folks are afraid of what they don't understand and will be afraid to join steem

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The huge thing about the SCOTs is that they pay out 100% liquid, they give people the choice of what to do next. Power up/ Stake and invest or transfer to another project, turn to Steem or simply sell. The power is back with the individual.

Please give a shoug out to Sportstalksocial...,.its truly social, people are engaging again there, fighting....about their favourite sports and teams. This is NEW Steem in action and I want more people to join cls I have enough staked Steem to give big Sporty upvotes lol. The other nice thing there is that people are voting for each other, helping to build stakes and rewards. Its brilliant! as is Palnet and the other SCOTs. The motto should be:
RIP Old Steem and welcome to SCOT Communities (finally!)

Final thing. I'm proper proud that you got a post pinned and featured, well done Ma'am :-)

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Have you not heard about @likwid, yet? For a small service fee you'll never have to stay invested in the platform with any steem-power-rewards ever again...

Not sure if that's innovation or just a great farming tool for the bid-bot gamblers, though?!

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It will be a farming tool unless the operators cooperate.

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That was mostly just a rhetorical question. Maybe there was a little too much salt in my sarcasm?!

Allthough if the operators would just not pay out to farmers... lol... ethically even more questionable than the whole farming thing to begin with... but oh my would we get some popcorn!

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Yeah we gonna make positive posts not about moneymaking but all about fun getting filthy rich with FB like posts great!!! 😊

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I don't think anyone who isn't already is going to get filthy rich. Have you seen the price?

If you don't like fb like posts don't make them or don't upvote them.

NewSteem... control your own experience.

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Yes it's really low now I believe it will get the same price as eth. Serious. 😊 I asked earlier on different posts just make a FB clone and with the right commercials it will get big. Private groups and choosing who is your friend etc it will get big. 😃

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Steem blockchain is evolving day after day. The past and the future is linked to the success of the platform. People are joining we have to keep doing the best we can to resolve more internal issue that prevent the real decentralization.
Peace

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I think attracting Bitcoin holders is a good idea. Polling bitcoin holders what they want to see with electronic p2p money like steem seems to be a good option. Maybe the investment hedge funds have certain decentralized tastes, seems EOS fit the bill for whatever reason, I'm fairly certain steem would fit the bill as well going forward as it's more decentralized than EOS today.

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We simply need to sell the fact that change is a sign of forward progress(even if people disagree with the change). Tons of people hate change. Everyone complains when the UI to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. changes but in tech you need change to survive and companies/tech make changes because they are willing to make unpopular changes in the name of overall forward progress. The fact that Steem is changing shows that Steem is a survivor and will keep evolving forward over the long term.

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Just before I've seen your picture, I knew what you have to say, because I'm feeling just about the same way.... Was fascinated to see all my international-interplanetary-intergalactic connection with all the folks here :)
So pleased to meet you all -> GREAT PICTURES posted here :)
It seems we're getting it.... and it is HOW TO USE this NEW technology!
All the best from Bulgaria! ;)
#newsteem!

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The marketing is a lie, and you know it.

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Good idea, fresh it up !
Like Steem just had an espresso ,
How about that one ;)
#newsteem

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I agree, but I think the GEEK is still pretty strong in new steem, and MOST welcome as far as I'm concerned.

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OLD STEEM is DUMB, NEW STEEM is great.

Let the games begin!!

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I'm waiting for it. Will buy steem soon. Can't but lots.
However, I think there will be a lot of activities after the HF.

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I've had a conversation earlier this week about creating a landing page for everyone to use, so people's first impression wouldn't be that steemit front page with that 80's look. Something modern, with a @steem-ninja signup option at the top. This was the base post.

A modern, attractive landing page, maybe with blocks that display all the different opportunities that are available on the Steem blockchain (maybe even using an aggregator, styled like one of those awesome magazine themes you find for WP, for example) would give people a much better idea about how interesting and versatile this blockchain is. Not to mention, it would look a lot more appealing and would definitely bring in more people

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All Steem is new to me as I just got to the party a few days ago, ha! None the less, thank you for posting this! I am trying to read everything I can at this point, take care!

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Been reading up but still confused on the new Steem
Might need to pop into one of my old friendly discord communities and ask around.

Some of the best people I know here are math geeks who crunched the numbers and looked at the codes yet they were not limited to it and saw the human side of the blockchain.

I remember having all those late night talks of humanizing technology and making it easier for people to onboard and have realistic expectations and leave the get rich quick and entitlement issues back in the real world.

Need to read up more

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I think the new STEEM is on the roll ! So many opportunities and real use cases now 😃

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I’m new to Steem. Am I lucky to have missed out on Old Steem altogether?

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Old steem disentralizarion, new steem i don't

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Oh, gosh. I must be such an old Steemer. Although I have only been here for a bit over a year. But that's ancient in Steemyears. But what was I saying... Oh yes! I searched and searched, looked under my carpets, all two of them, looked in to my closets, under my cats, did dome digging in the kitty litter, shouted out to people out my open window (did not show my face because hell no!), played songs in reverse mode to find secret meanings, crossed my eyes if the world would have two dimensional stereo images so that I could see them better in 3D, emptied few glasses of whiskey to see if the new Steem would be there, even looked up my ass but I simply couldn't find the new Steem!

I mean, I an trying my best here!

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Steem needs a sort of patnership with a global tech giant.

Sony - ethereum
opera mini - ethereum

I made a poll a while ago, it seemed to be in favour of Huawei, you can check it here
https://dpoll.xyz/detail/@mistakili/which-tech-giant-should-steem-partner-with-like-ethereum-partnered-with-samsung-and-opera-mini/

Or something like that.

Steem with a global recognized tech giant will do everything marketing we need with one announcement

e.g EA sports games announces to launch something on Steem!!

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Ubisoft...etc...or maybe a brand not so techy techy

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Let's burn the geeks and pin it onto trending!

I was away for a while so I don't know what "new steem" is but from a geek's perspective old steem also had too many influencers who overpromised in daily basis.

As I remember many people were against to the new terms like vests in the previous HFs, it may confuse the newcomers. Then resource pools, mana costs etc. Now we have SPS, Mira, EIP bla bla oh la la..

I'd like to see steem as facebook with incentives, simple as that now I need to read 10 more articles about these and have opinions on it and discuss it for nothing for days until some people put some new terms in front of us.

Before I read them all, I just think as a geek :) how did they solve "Rude, Scammy, Bad Economics, Too much GEEK." problems with code.

New community funding -SPS
New Community Tools - Scot tokens and sites
New Scalability - Mira
New Economic Model - EIP
New Leadership in SteemIt Inc one of our funding and development companies

from these headlines only the EIP sounds like worth to read. Community funding was a thing, it didn't used well or didn't work to attract people at all, they just try to grow bigger inside. Scalability is not my concern, it's for big geeks those who run the servers for the chain. Leadership, does she/he plays guitar?

Older steem

  • At least you were free to write as many as you'd like, then system started to act every new account as a bot. While ignoring the actual bots that ruling/ruining the inside economy.

Old steem:

  • Hard to get involved.
  • Eureka moment after a week that you don't see hundreds of upvotes if you don't pay for it.
  • Circlejerks that takes the whole daily pie.

List goes on but I believe that was not the point :)

New steem:

  • I bet none of them solved.

Oh there is one more thing, there are people that still believe if we behave well, steem value would rise. :) Hope this EIP is something about trading steem with outer world.

edit, Oh c'mon is that it?

EIP
Under the EIP, you will be able to render a certain number of downvotes for free (i.e. without reducing your voting mana).

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I'm not getting your point. Where is the new steem? I'm seeing the same old steem with some advertisement here and there. Am I missing something?

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If we are going to start #newsteem, we must first remember all of these important aspects of #curation. This is one of the most important parts about our ecosystem.

Luckily, I just dropped a new video to educate every #steem user on the subject of curation.

https://steemit.com/newsteem/@daltono/0mdvl2xm5pa

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How very New Steem of you! I upvoted for blatant self-aggrandizement!

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Well I thank you kindly @sgt-dan.

Aggrandizement

Nice word you used there 😎 taught me a new one.

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You are welcome. I learned that word from @ned. Oh I am sorry is that talking about Old Steem?

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I think that still can qualifies as #newsteem. He is just no longer a face we see, he still exists 👤

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OH NO, Does this mean I need to sell all my Steem to buy New Steem? What is the exchange rate from old steem to new steem?

Kidding...

Love the push and I am going to think on some ideas!

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In this case, is the old Steem going to be eliminated from the system, or it will be run simultaneously with the new Steem?

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THIS !

"NEW STEEM
New community funding -SPS
New Community Tools - Scot tokens and sites
New Scalability - Mira
New Economic Model - EIP
New Leadership in SteemIt Inc one of our funding and development companies
MOST IMPORTANT
New Attitude - Thriving"

You forgot about
New look (to the steemit.com page) and
New roadmap

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Old Steem (Summer of 2016):

  • Non-linear rewards curve
  • 50/50 rewards distribution to authors and curators
  • No reverse auction

"New" Steem (after HF21):

  • Non-linear rewards curve
  • 50/50 rewards distribution to authors and curators
  • One-minute reverse auction

I think what you're referring to as "old Steem" actually is the "new Steem" that Ned and STINC envisioned...and that is currently failing. What we need is a return to most of those "old Steem" protocols, albeit with a bit of revisions based on our three years of experiences.

The problem that I see with HF21 though...

The good that we may get from the EIP will effectively be canceled out by the SPS protocols that puts more 100% giveaways into the hands of the very same people that drove Steem into the ground over the last few years. So, while the EIP has protocols that may improve the retention of STEEM in the system, the SPS adds to the amount of STEEM that will likely be flowing out of it with no actual promise that the funds will be used for useful development (if the history here is any indication of what to expect going forward with the same small number of people deciding on what is "valuable" to the ecosystem).

But sure..."New Steem" is a fun little gimmick. I'm not sure anyone is going to buy it, but good luck to everyone trying to sell it.

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I am not a fan of these EIP changes either. Specifically the free downvotes. I don't how that will possibly encourage more people to come here or help the price of steem in any way. In fact I would argue it is hurting the price right now as more large accounts are powering down than ever before, likely due to these proposed changes.

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I don’t get it.

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You held a meme competition many moons ago. That's the one I made and stuck under your post. I didn't win.

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Yeah, I remember it. I just don’t get it. Still.

You need to power up your meme game, bro! This is New Old Steem!

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There was nothing to get. I just felt like doing that. Dude, this is New Steem. We can do anything, and it's awesome, by default.

Get with the program!

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I thought I was with the program! You’re telling me I’m not?

How Old New Steem of you! For shame!

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Seriously, you guys are my favorite Steem couple. So stinking cute.. love coming across your on chain tiffs .. makes my heart happy

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Eww!!! Cooties! Get outta here!

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Nope, too late. I must rubbed my cooties all over you and @nonameslefttouse. get used to it 😎

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You must-rubbed us?

Uh...

Things are getting pretty weird now.

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Gosh you’re such a stalker, so quick with replies that I can’t even fix a typo!

I take back the rubbing.. I just threw my cooties at you instead. Same end result...

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Well, now you’re just being mean. Very Oldnew Steem of you.

To the hyperinflation corner with you!

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Crap.. banned from NewSteem already... 😔

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great i'm more bulish on steem ever i see more change coming and this is great, best crypto community :)

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Both are good and very difficult to tell which is better. I am here for two years but somehow miss the old Steem. I think we had many active users, but many spammers as well.But I am very happy to be a part of this great community and love all the apps that we have now like Actifit, Steemmonsers and many others. I am still a loyal member of this community and will always be. I can already see a bright future thats isnt that far :D

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Okay... I've been here only since March. I've done well, but I have a certain toleration for being able to do what I need to do in the midst of head-spinning situations (thank you, teenage migraines), and picked up key support early...

But I read @penguinpablo every day on his Steem stats report, and Steem has three HUGE problems that interlink. Massive power downs, DAILY, in an environment in which activity remains steady and new signups are tailing off and HAVE BEEN tailing off steadily. The power downs, I don't have a suggestion about -- out of my minnow league (but hey, @streetstyle, getting folks to power up on a GRAND scale is your league, so maybe come speak on it).

What I do have a suggestion about is needing to find a way to onboard people and show them a path to success -- engagement, some kind of steady drip of cash -- SOMETHING. The stats show the system is losing steam -- there is no way around that, because if you have 1,400-1,500 new people coming in every week but engagement stays roughly flat, that means 1,400-1,500 have STOPPED engaging in that same time period. We are bringing fewer people in the front door while about the same amount are going out the back, along with those massive power downs.

Here's how we solve this: get high-value prospects on a curation trail at the start, just for them. I stayed because a kind orca/whale (I don't know the exact breakdown, but thank you, @carlgnash) delegated me enough SP so I could thank all the people who came through on my first posts, and that led to some decent early payouts in Steem terms for a red fish as those that I engaged with decided they would follow me. That was my early trail -- but that was not guaranteed. Let's make it guaranteed for those for who bring quality to the blockchain.

I came to this epiphany this week, when I realized: a lot of my support is from curation trails from different communities of Steemians ... I sort of backed into this position, not knowing what was going on. Now, all I have to do is maintain quality, and post regularly ... those trails provide me some income, and I realize I can now go take quality work and introduce myself to new communities that have trails. Not that many people are staying around to go through the process of backing into this position, and we can't afford not to retain the quality people among the 1,400-1500 a week that are coming in. So, start folks off right: get them onboard, watch how well they perform with #introduceyourself and just after, get them on a dedicated quality newbie curation trail, teach them how to position themselves to find other support.

We need to be INTENTIONAL about this, and the stats don't suggest we have a ton of time to figure this out. At the present rate of decline, we will have a situation in which more people are going out the back door than coming before the end of the year. Don't believe me? Here are the stats again; scroll down until you see the stats of new users, and tell me what direction they are clearly trending in. Engagement, combined with a little steady cash, will give new users incentive to stick around and see how great Steem is and can be -- we can solve this problem within existing resources AND, since HF21 gives more to curators, even make that an advantage to EVERYONE.

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This may surprise you, but at under 5000 SP myself I am a minnow :) But I was happy to delegate some SP to you at the beginning of your steem journey, and happy you are still here.

I think in general, people need to be careful about conflating users/retention with value for Steem, and also about conflating STEEM (the token) with Steem the blockchain.

Users who power up Steem add value to STEEM the token, while users who power down and sell lower the value of STEEM the token - but of course, in both cases, by far the major driver of price of STEEM is speculative investment (or in the case of STEEM, lack thereof, currently). It is important to note that simply being an active user is neutral to price of STEEM, what matters is how much STEEM is held vs. how much is sold. I am of the personal opinion that the current situation with low STEEM prices and major holders powering down is actually good for Steem, the blockchain. For the first time in the history of Steem blockchain, the wealth distribution is improving. Whales powering down and a growing lower/middle class of users powering up = good for Steem the blockchain, even if it is bad for the price of STEEM the token.

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Well, @carlgnash, you may just be a big minnow, but you have the heart of the noblest of whales ... your kindness tokens are off the chain ... or, I should say, on the blockchain for as long as the world lasts!

I really appreciate your taking the time to explain STEEM the token vs. Steem the blockchain ... so, the thing to watch for is speculative investment, which us newbies have no idea about on this side of the looking glass ... I'm glad to have the clues to use before I go look at the stats again. I do see in those stats what you are referring to in terms of wealth distribution also; there ARE a lot of mid-sized and small power-ups, and the fact that posts and comments are staying stable means that even with folks coming in the front door and blowing out the back, the committed Steemians might just be able to hang on and keep powering up enough until investors pick up on what is being done on an improving blockchain, and get involved in a sustained way -- which will then bring up the token.

I hope that you are right, @carlgnash. I still think it would help to onboard people in a way that gives them incentive to stay around long enough to figure out how this all works so that they, too, have something to power up sooner, and more often. But at least I don't have to be as concerned about what looks like a slow-motion crash and burn... and since I wasn't going anywhere yet anyhow, I suppose I will just take my newbie self away to go create my next post...

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BTW I certainly wasn't meaning to imply that there was no need to do what you say and onboard people in a way that they stick around. That is actually one of the clearest and easiest paths forward that I see, and unfortunately, one that the new "economic incentive plan" proposed in the hardfork will make much tougher. At the top with the large stakeholders who make these decisions, there is a general opinion that the smallest accounts really don't matter. This is actually ignoring the reality of the situation, which is that the smallest accounts are the only thing working currently, and the best thing that Steem (the blockchain) has going in terms of users. There is a tremendous incentive to power up when you are a new user. The 15 SP delegated to you doesn't even allow you to make more than a handful of comments, so the first 50 SP earned or so is almost always powered up by an account that wants to be able to transact. Onboard a thousand new users into communities of supportive folk and they will power up 50,000 SP in short order. One new whale investor that earns 50,000 SP from delegations to a bid bot will sell that amount. I personally am fine with the price remaining low and the larger stakeholders selling, while the small accounts grow. Steem has always had a terribly uneven stake distribution right from the beginning, and the current system and price of STEEM is working to help solve that.

But ultimately, it isn't investors or small accounts using Steem blockchain as a social media / blogging platform that is the future of Steem the blockchain. It is DAPP development. Price of STEEM being low is actually a great thing there, it allows DAPPs to buy enough resources at a low price for their users to record custom json transactions to the blockchain. Until/unless the demand for SP to provide resource credits for DAPPs exceeds the short term profit possible from leasing SP to bid bots, Steem isn't going anywhere. When that point does come though, bid bot problem will solve itself.

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@carlgnash -- I did go on and make my new post... people like me just don't understand giving up, and even under the new EIP, I expect to do well. I don't expect that you expect to not do well. What I don't want to see, down the line, is folks talking about "Steem is great, but there was no way for newbies from summer 2019 to find a way to enjoy it." I don't want that to be the case on Steemit -- HOWEVER, I do see that perhaps it could be another DAPP that will get the job done. I intend in the very near future to start exploring Steempress to publish more extended writing works, for example. Perhaps the Steem journey could best be thought of as a relay race... the whole team wins in the end.

About bid bots I have nothing of great intelligence to say, except that I know from those stats that they account for only around .44 percent of transactions. That must be a powerful .44 percent, if they account for all those massive power downs -- and yes, there is no way for Steem the token to rise significantly under those conditions. That said, it makes sense to just hang on with Steem the blockchain and just stack STEEM and power it up at this low cost -- especially before the EIP, when it is easier for authors to do that stacking. To me, nothing will be lost; the discipline it takes to do enough to get rewarded around here pays off everywhere. What will be gained by HODLing if things turn out well will be quite wonderful. So, off I go to start planning future posts... the stacking WILL continue!

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I agree with you. This is not an easy place to be. It is not just social media or a nice platform where you find a warm welcome. I left and came back after months. I know many who came with me and they left.

I find it hard to promote something I hardly understand myself.
Many contents about steem start in the middle of... and you need to be an insider to understand how or what.

Another problem is the language.
The faq is not easy, it's all in English and to most English is not their native language.
The step by step guide is missing, so are the ways how to be able to post and comment.
Not able to do so if you are new is the most ridiculous thing a platform can have.

There is no way you can search for "how to power up/get more SP", " why can't I comment on a post". I know it cost me a lot of stress.

I believe many switch steemit for palnet now (although it beats me how to stake and sell/buy there) and who knows steemleo or publish0x suits more people too.

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Hi @wakeupkitty have you tried some discords like PAL ,or Steemchat discord ?
You can meet a lot of great people. It can be sort of rough on Steem to get traction with people.

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I agree in trying to make things better. I love memes. I think about these things all of the time. This is getting the ball rolling in the right direction.

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@whatsup, is part of the gang stalking group @steemspeak ran by @fyrstikken, that uses Voice to Skull. This comment is here to let people know.

This is not a warning, it's a fact. Voice to skull will read your thoughts first without your knowledge for a long time, to map you. They then include transmitting self octave scale-able comments into your head to a tight, pulsed pace, indefinitely. Any brain activity, even the smallest, will trigger this when sound is turned on. You have to do all of your thinking around this. It is extreme torture, done by monsters.

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All of them users of Steem and gave their permission for this meme.
I'm presenting a project for The New Steem in Fundition and I'd love for you to see it.
For the new adoption you have to change from "earn easy money by publishing" to "we are the only social network with real communities that meet in person"

https://fundition.io/#!/@danielvehe/017ott75z

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I'm into it. Seems like a lot of folks (myself included) just lost interest in this place. Obviously the extreme downward spiral in terms of the price of Steem didn't help, but it's not 100% attributable to that. This place just needs a breath of new life and all of the changes going on are great.

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!SHADE 1

Love the positivism regarding THE NEW STEEM would give you more SHADE, but I am running low like with my SP voting power.

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Great step .Good job .

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!SHADE 1

I would give you half a SHADE for this lame comment, yet I do not have that option.

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NewSteem is where it is at! Old Steem is dead. It takes some longer to get it, but it's just true.

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*Blind, crippled, crazy? We take them all!

Quoting my Marine Corps Recruiter when I was denied enlistment into the Army Special Forces.

Everyone has value. Even this silly meme. It is all subjective.Quality Content? That is determined by the consumer (curator) not the content creator. Why do I even bother stating the obvious? Well seems it is necessary at times.

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....it was done for some laughs, ALL Aboard: The Crazy Train:

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Don't market to us, market to others. We are already here! Them that are leaving? Well, it is what it is. Appreciate the effort. Hopefully you are already marketing to others (non-Steemitizens. Don't have time to check. I have some SHADE to throw around...

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New STEEM is better because it creates the opportunity to chose a different path . It used to be that either A: Spend many hours building your audience . B: Buy Steem and give to bid bots. But now it is getting more diverse . Even minnows are able to have a say and PALNET and Steemmonsters are doing a great job at doing this.

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From grass to grace...only the brave and wise knows the logic

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Thank you for this wonderful article.

I've also shared your post in the Steem Malaysia Community Page on Facebook, hoping to give you the extra exposure because of its good content.

I hope by doing this, more content creators/bloggers/vloggers will get to know this wonderful platform we both thrive in. :)

Keep creating awesome content!

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@whatsup that's a great initiative. I am surprised after reading this post because these same thoughts I have shared in a telegram steem group. More than EIP, steem needs marketing and promotion. More than waiting for some one to lead, we can collectively work on this. Because the steem we hold is ours and we only need to work to increase its value. More reasons with vision to hold the steem and increase the steem power, more value will be added to the steem.

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  1. in the google search if you search steem this week. not bad :D
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this week. also 4 for some reason on steempeak looks like 1 :D
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Filled with Geeks who want to talk about MATH

I've noticed plenty of trash posts, but talks about math? No.

OLD STEEM Rude, Scammy, Bad Economics, Too much GEEK.

With this statement, I can agree. Let's hope it will get better in the future.

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@whatsup -

This post has been sitting open on my desk top for a couple of days and I've only just got to it now. I really like the positive tone. I admit to having been one of the nay-sayers when I first started reading posts about HF21, and, I admit, specifically in relation to the creator/curator split. Like everyone who has a vested interest in Steem appreciating in vlaue, I was feeling hard done by. I get the difference between those of us (as in @ats-david suggests in his post), who haven't used fiat to buy Steem, and those of us who have used the platform to generate (a bit of a head of) Steem. My reaction was that we have created and thus invested our time and contributed in a different way to the develoment of the platform. The time spent on creating posts (people's opinion of the quality aside - that is another matter), is nowhere near what I could charge in my day job (and no, it's not what you think! lol). I was beginning to question what the hell I was doing.

I will also nail my colours to the mast: I prefer the creative process to curation. I would love to be doing more of the latter, but I have a day job that pays the bills...

Which brings me to my next point: I have not powered down - ever. After HF20, and I was paralysed, I received a small delegation (now returned) and I have given two small delegations - in the spirit of both pay-back and paying it forward; I have used some Steem/SBD to buy SBI and to host my website so that I can use @steempress (I'll come back to this). In the grand scheme of things, though, that's negligible. As is the tiny head of Steem I've managed to build so far. So again, the question arises: what the hell am I doing?

It comes back to what is, for many, almost a mantra:

I came to Steemit for the money and stayed for the community

Which for someone who is not a herd animal, is quite something and thanks in no small part to the big-hearted small community lead by @jaynie and @zord189, @steemitbloggers aka #poiwerhousecreatives and its members.

So, back to my question self-examination: It was @ats-david's provocatively titled post, Oh, No! Hard Fork 21 Will Kill Us All! that nurtured a niggling feeling that whatever happened with HF21, I'd hang around (as I think it did for @nickyhavey?). The reasons have as much to do with community as with having found two dapps that work really well for my purposes - both on Steemit and "there". Using @share2steem and @steempress allows me to reach not just a bigger audience, but different audiences, including some that would do not have the remotest interest in Steemit or crypto currencies.

So, as a person for whom investing in Steem is unaffordable (even when it was at its lowest), I am going to hang around. I'm beginning to warm to the new Steem especially if it deals with some of the nasty, bullying and bot behaviour that has made some Steemians lives miserable.

Thanks to you and @ats-david for a different and more positive perspective.

Fiona
(aka one of the little guys

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You are right. When I read his short novel of a post I was highly impressed. I am proud to say that @ats-david is another of my esteemed witnesses and has been for some time. My voting power juice is not very high, but I like your comment so much I am going to send...

!SHADE 10

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Well said Fiona!

I've made plenty of comments elsewhere on the platform so not going to spend much more time on it. Here's a time-lapse of my thoughts in comment form:

HF21 - hated the idea, woe is me, author rewards slashed, wait I'm getting something for my time and I've not spent any of my own money, that's still good, changes are coming, I'll do some more curating to get more, still got friends on the platform, still getting more than fb, twitter and YouTube combined. Staying, buoyant.

My HF21 lol

Nicky (another little guy)

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so where is this "new" steem? I'd like to be part of it but I don't really see it anywhere!

heard about this on #pypt

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Thanks for engaging with posts presented on PYPT

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I found the discussion about this post soooo interesting on the Ramble PYPT. I'm looking forward to seeing the changes to come and how it all pans out!

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Thanks for engaging with posts presented on PYPT

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That is why you Guns (yeah, that is my new nickname for you) are one of my most esteemed Steemians. Always thinking outside the box. I may disagree with you on a great many things, but I know of noone that has put more investment into this platform both financially (that is in the percentage of their resources) or with their time. You are indeed a friend not just to me, but a great many people as well as a great many initiatives regarding the Steem Blockchain.

I salute your intestinal fortitude.

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Oh, and by the way. I saw this post shared on #PYPT. I did not make my presence known. I can be sneaky like that.

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Thanks for engaging with posts presented on PYPT

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The more controversial the topic, the ridiculous the comments get. Those trying to settle in the 'new steem' community will have a hard deciding if they want to stay especially if they don't know the mechanisms of what is there or what's been there.

I feel like that's where we lose it. I am two years old here and I am yet to understand all the mechanisms behind this community... probably because I don't have the time to fully understand it as I need to feed myself and Steem can't really feed me so I gotta work. My two cents ✌

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Maybe stop focusing on the whole STEEM thing? Pick your flavor of DAPPS on the STEEM Blockchain. Like blogging maybe check out...

https://palnet.io
https://bus.org
https://steempeak.com
https://steemit.com

Into investing? Maybe https://steemleo.com. You like to play cards? Maybe @spl is for you.

as I need to feed myself and Steem can't really feed me so I gotta work.

Nothing tried, nothing gained. No handouts here my friend, but you can get all the help you need to grow. Just ask. I am sargento#0001 on Discord. Feel free to send me a direct message (DM). I will be able to point you in the proper direction. If I don't have an answer to help you, I know where to send you for answers.

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I didn't ask for handouts 🤷

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Just stating facts for others that read the comments on this post. No accusations. Was not my intent to offend you. If that is what you perceived? I ask your forgiveness. This may be advantages to both of us.

Maybe @whatsup will see this conversation and send us both some DRAMA Token. Would that not be cool?

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I wonder if you could've simply stated those facts to them other than me. My sentiments weren't aiming for such a response as I am aware of every everything you've have stated... So yes it feels like an accusation.

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I will make this very simple. I asked your forgiveness, and your responses? Now I need to check out your blog (probably your intent). I will ask once again for your forgiveness. Can't do that? Want to go all berniesanders on me? Well that is fine.

Give me a minute or two to find out who you are. I wish to reiterate, it was not my intent to accuse you of anything nor libel you. If I wanted to? I would have.

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My intent? No sir. It wasn't. I simply shared my thoughts and now it's a problem. And I am no one to you please✌️

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There has only ever been peace between you and I my new friend. Yes, I did follow you. I follow too many people actually. Probably a good many accounts I follow are inactive.

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I haven't played steemit for a long time.
now i started playing stteemit again there were a lot of changes in steemin i haven't been in years.

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I really don't get the new versus the old distinction. But it definitely needs something new. I've been a member for quite some time, and it still too complicated for me to really figure out what's going on. There's just too much obscure lingo that doesn't make any sense to me. If there's any way that you can simplify it so that it would be easier to use, that would definitely be an improvement. I wish there is some way we could lose all the silly names for things that seem totally unrelated to their function, like witness, whale, and dolphin. I still find the website to be so difficult to understand that most of the time, I just write whatever I want to write, and forget about all this other stuff going on that makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want to improve the site, then I say simplify as much as possible, and cut out all the obscure jargon that makes no sense to most people.

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will new steem hit a higher all time high price vs old steem?

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old steem is very Rudy and scammy and soo difficult i hope new steem will cool

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I strongly recommend avoiding the piss-on-"old steemit" approach.

...Unless you want to appear like you are struggling to convince a skeptic. It was this sense of an incoming mob of bad habits (New) that seemed to be "ruining everything".

A community initiative is something that Steemit communities do. That might be a very good sentiment to embrace and convey. But market research is not only for corporate. Set aside this and your own ideas when you visit other sites and listen carefully to gain insight into what people want. If it's here- that's what you want to broadcast.

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New Steem? The same "new" as when they managed to remove the text "beta" from the logo after ~3 years...?

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I have been here since July 2016 and I've seen basically everything. Like many others. Nothing will ever make Steem as great as it was during it's early days. People were thrilled and excited. Hoardes of people joined STEEM in an attempt to earn some extra money, and existing users rewarded them for their efforts.

During it's course, we managed to put roof over the head of an homeless man. We helped some single mom pay her electricity bill, rent and whatever... We have even managed to get someone a brand new car. - All of that, due to the overall charity and pay-it-forward mindset and mentality.

Those days are long gone. And we will never see anything like that ever again, due to greed and selfishness. - That's a fact.

People suck dick all day long and they feast on the little drops of whale cum there is left in the "tank". Even dolphins have dried-up due to this behaviour.

I love STEEM, I really do, but I love it due to the actual potential I see and the majority of people seems to miss that part entirely. They continue to be selfish and greedy... The more the price drops in value, the more greedy people gets.

I couldn't do a single thing about it when I first came here in July 2016 with 0 SP... And I couldn't do anything about it when I had 5000+ SP either...

I have tried to tell people about all the stupid shit that happens many, many times. I have told people that they need to stop promoting STEEM like a cash-cow and I have expressed my feelings and I've told people how stupid they are for talking in "tech" as soon as some updates happen etc. I have tried to make people understand that they are promoting STEEM to the wrong audience, by trying to market it to the "underground anarchist" type of people with their crappy "STEEM is decentralized"-slogans...

Nothing has ever happened. No one has ever listened.

  • Why would this "new" STEEM be any different?

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a new STEEM, and the closest I've gotten so far, is when I stumbled across PALnet. I am far from convinced though, but PALnet seems to share my values and ideas. They seem to see many of the actual problems with this "old" STEEM, which is really cool to see...

However, I doubt that they will ever be able to get rid of the greedy and selfish behaviour, so it feels like it's only a matter of time before that type of mentality kicks in with the majority of people... Just like it did with the "old" STEEM.

I truly hope I am wrong, and I wish PALnet, myself and all its users the best of luck... But I am skeptical. In the long haul, I can't see how PALnet would even survive without STEEM, and whenever STEEM is involved, things are pretty much doomed to be ruined at some point.

It all started due to bad leadership, stupid mistakes and the fact that greed and selfishness was allowed to exist to the extent it has. If PALnet in some mysterious, magical way have found a recipe to counter all of those things...

Well, then I'm in. Otherwise, I'll just continue my latests attempts to become ignorant, selfish and stupid, as that certainly is what STEEM is (was) all about.

#newsteem.

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All valid concerns... but we have the tools now to by pass that made management and we have the ability to change the culture and the behavior.

NewSteem is encompassed by both attitude and changes. :)

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Hey @hitmeasap you've been around since the early days ( we are the 2016 class of steemians ) and we've seen it all. I do think we are at point where we can have a different mindset and turn the boat around to those early days. Like you mentioned PALnet and others can help this a long. Good to see you still out there.

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I've been away for a while, any good info sources on how Steem has changed?
<3

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The SteemIt Blog has covered a lot of it, and in addition to changes in our rewards. Aggroed and Team have built an exciting community. The ability to make what is a lot like Communities and SMTs. While I don't Ned is gone Eli is diving SteemIt, Inc and they are being much more responsive.

Moslty though we are embracing NewSteem as a culture. We will behave our way into different results.

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A little late with my meme. Sorry.

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new streem is like old steem only there is no spoon

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What I miss most is no matter old or new steem it is still for a certain group of insiders.
It is hard to get in, fit in, not to feel lost. Content is not written for those who are new, to introduce them and give them a hand, but for those who already know.

I am one of them who still don't know how or what.
If I read your post 80% of the words used I have no idea what you are talking about.

If it comes to Steem or Palnet or Steemleo and you ask how or what guaranteed 0 answer. It is an insider group and feels as if only writing about steem is appreciated.

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We used to have more content for minnows, but we just don't have as many now.

Hopefully, it will pick back up. I recommend joining a discord server or smaller community.

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To be honest I find discord chaotic and not very informative.

I joined several groups and mainly the same people talk to eachother. You don't feel that welcome over there.

I did not used it for a longer time because my internet is too slow to log in.

What I miss is a step by step manual what to do to...
Easy written. That is a hard task to most.

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I guess when you are coming to a site to get paid, we do expect "Do It Yourself" type people in the early phases.

I agree we are terrible at holding hands and I guess that I hope that means we create a community of intelligent self starters.

Maybe when we are larger and rewards are more spread out we will be better at easy on ramps. Right now though, I think it will act like a filter to bring the strongest smartest people onboard.

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Although I joined almost a year and a half ago, I only started being active on the site a few weeks ago. I am liking what I see so far. I want to do whatever I can to encourage organic interactions. That’s what I hope the site will move toward.

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My little thing is to leave a Google review on a restaurant that also contains the link to my longer Tasteem/Steem review of the restaurant. Leaving these bread crumbs around might eventually get more people curious. It's just one extra step... but if enough people did it... Leave a trace of your steem post somewhere else on the more populated part of the internet!

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First SPS budget should be spent for marketing Steem to create new demand for Steem in Investors and developer community.

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I agree that would be a good move.

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when will ban the bots? I still don't see any difference.

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Well since you are a level 25 how would you know the difference?

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I don't really get the policy of @dramatoken's unvoting. I'm not an abuser, and unvoting makes me feel that I'm an abuser. This happened twice recently, even though current upvote can't even be paid out since it's less than $0.02.

I'm not seeing the use of dramatoken that much these days, and that might be due to too strict unvoting policy without any explanation.

I'm also considering selling all dramatokens if this happens again next time.

Thanks for your interesting project. I'm also trying to understand. I strongly believe that there have been so many real abusers. What about introducing a whitelist?

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