Роздуми про війну
Я народився і все життя прожив на Західній Україні, то ж, як і більшість місцевих мешканців, я з дитинства знав, що Росія - це наш смертельний ворог. Це дещо відмінна риса тих, хто мешкає на заході України, від мешканців сходу, я ще донедавна вважали росіян братським народом. Це все тому, що захід було окуповано Радянським Союзом лише у 1939 році, що набагато пізніше, ніж решта території України. Це призвело до того, що пам'ять про криваву та відчайдушну боротьбу наших дідів та батьків жорстокі і цинічні вороги не встигли знищити. І ми пам'ятали (і пам'ятаємо) про мільйони вбитих і закатованих радянською владою українців.
I was born and lived all my life in Western Ukraine, so, like most locals, I knew from childhood that Russia is our mortal enemy. This is a somewhat different feature of those who live in the west of Ukraine, from the inhabitants of the east, until recently they considered the Russians a fraternal people. This is all because the West was occupied by the Soviet Union only in 1939, which is much later than the rest of Ukraine. As a result, the memory of the bloody and desperate struggle of our grandfathers and fathers was not destroyed by cruel and cynical enemies. And we remembered (and still remember) the millions of Ukrainians killed and tortured by the Soviet authorities.
Коли розпався Радянський Союз, мені було сім років. Я пішов у перший клас у перший рік існування незалежної України. Я зростав разом з нашою державою. І хоча у дев'яностих у нас в країні було дуже важко, бо у більшості людей не було роботи і ми жили дуже бідно, але ситуація у наших містах і селах була загалом мирною (не враховуючи бандитських війн за розподіл сфер впливу). Багато-хто каже, що ми отримали свою незалежність дуже легко, без бою, на відміну від деяких інших республік колишнього СРСР і це розслабило нас, ми почали думати, що мир - це незмінна річ у нашому житті.
I was seven years old when the Soviet Union collapsed. I went to the first grade in the first year of independent Ukraine. I grew up with our state. And although in the nineties it was very difficult in our country, because most people did not have a job and we lived very poor, but the situation in our cities and villages was generally peaceful (excluding the bandit wars for the division of spheres of influence). Many say that we gained our independence very easily, without a fight, unlike some other republics of the former USSR and it relaxed us, we began to think that peace is a constant thing in our lives.
Все змінилося у 2014 році. Спочатку ми мали криваве побоїще в Києві, під час Революції Гідності, коли було повалено владу проросійського президента Януковича. Це все плавно переросло в анексію Криму, а потім вже й у війну на сході України. За ці сім років війни, яку сором'язливо назвали антитерористичною операцією, було вбито тисячі українців. І почало здаватися, що ось вона, кривава жертва, сплачена за можливість існування незалежної України, але це все була ілюзія.
Everything changed in 2014. At first we had a bloody massacre in Kyiv, during the Revolution of Dignity, when the power of pro-Russian President Yanukovych was overthrown. All this gradually grew into the annexation of Crimea, and then into the war in eastern Ukraine. During these seven years of war, which has been shyly called the anti-terrorist operation, thousands of Ukrainians have been killed. And it began to seem that it is, a bloody victim, which was paid by us for the possibility of an independent Ukraine, but it was all an illusion.
Так ось, коли з кінця осені почали з'являтися повідомлення від західних розвідок, американської та британської, про те, що Росія готується до повномасштабного нападу на Україну, ніхто не хотів вірити у це. Навіть я, який виріс на розповідях про злочини Росії, вчинених з метою знищення українського народу. Це все через моє мирне дитинство, мій мозок до останнього відкидав можливість відкритої війни проти України, навіть у тривожні останні дні перед вторгненням.
So, when reports from Western intelligence, American and British, began to emerge in late autumn that Russia was preparing for a full-scale attack on Ukraine, no one wanted to believe it. Even I, who grew up on stories about Russia's crimes committed to destroy the Ukrainian people. This is all because of my peaceful childhood, my brain to the last rejected the possibility of open war against Ukraine, even in the anxious last days before the invasion.
Я раніше ніколи не служив в армії і всіляко уникав можливості потрапити туди в мої юні роки. Потім я був занесений в запас по досягненню граничного призовного віку, тобто як призовника мене в армію не могли викликати, проте це могло статися під час оголошення мобілізації, яка неодноразово проводилася у 2014-2015 роках. Проте в ті роки мене так і не призвали в армію, хоча у воєнкоматі я один раз був, для уточнення моїх персональних даних. Тому війна на сході здавалася мені дуже далекою, хоча я, як і тисячі українців, робив пожертви на армію.
I had never served in the army before and avoided the opportunity to get there in my youth. Then I was put on reserve to reach the conscription age, ie as a conscript I could not be drafted into the army, but this could happen during the announcement of mobilization, which was repeatedly held in 2014-2015. However, in those years I was never drafted into the army, although I was at the military enlistment office once to clarify my personal data. Therefore, the war in the east seemed very distant to me, although I, like thousands of Ukrainians, made donations to the army.
Але 24 лютого сталося те, що до того могло примаритися лише у страшному сні - Росія напала на Україну, підло, вночі, скинувши бомби та ракети на мирні міста. Як я вже писав у попередньому пості, після метань та тривожних роздумів я (разом зі своїми шваграми) рішення вступити у територіальну оборону. Чому саме туди і чому я прийняв це надзвичайно непросто особисто для мене рішення одразу на другий день війни? Я ж міг просто дочекатися повістки у воєнкоматі і вона, найймовірніше потрапила б до мене нескоро. Це пояснюється тим, що я хотів навчатися свій дім та свою родину зі зброєю у руках і саме територіальна оборона давала мені таку можливість. Я чудово розумів, що в армії, на передовій, я б лише був тягарем з мінімальними шансами вижити самому і значно б знизив шанси на виживання своїх бойових побратимів.
*But on February 24, something happened that could only be dreamed of in a nightmare - Russia attacked Ukraine, vilely, at night, dropping bombs and missiles on peaceful cities. As I wrote in a previous post, after throwing and anxious thoughts, I (along with my brothers-in-law) decided to join the territorial defense. Why was it there and why was it so difficult for me personally to make a decision on the second day of the war? I could just wait for the summons at the military enlistment office and it would most likely come to me soon. This is due to the fact that I wanted to defence my home and my family with weapons in hand, and it was the territorial defense that gave me such an opportunity. I understood perfectly well that in the army, on the front line, I would only be a burden with minimal chances of survival myself and would significantly reduce the chances of survival of my comrades-in-arms.
Тепер я навчаюся захищатися від ворогів зі зброєю в руках і бути готовим до будь якого розвитку подій. Я не один, нас багато, тому перемога обов'язково за нами. Слава Україні!
Now I am learning to defend myself from enemies with weapons in hand and be ready for any development. I am not alone, there are many of us, so the victory is definitely for us. Glory to Ukraine!
Фото автора Engin Akyurt з Pexels
a bloody coup of state, not a revolution. a bloody massacre was first, it wasn't escalating violence among the so called protesters? That changed nothing, police being fire bombed and snipered and shot at and blugeoned with rocks, all was legitimate and ok? Occupying buildings? Barricades and tractors?
The Euromaidan in Ukraine: Geopolitics in Action
February 22, 2014
What’s going on in Ukraine? Valiant protesters fighting for ‘freedom’ and ‘rights’? Violent radicals causing mayhem on the U.S.’s dime? From the former boxer leading the opposition to the American ambassador’s embarrassing leaked phone calls, there hasn’t been a more colorful and exciting event in Europe since the 2008 torching of the United States embassy in Belgrade.
This is what news looks like. Source: Guardian
As of writing, more than 100 people have been killed in ‘protests’ (read: urban warfare), including 16 police officers. Yet, the most exciting thing about Euromaidan is not the burning cars or suspiciously armored ‘protesters,’ but the stunning emergent lessons in geopolitics and demography that come out of it. I must first, however, dispel the dominant myth promulgated by our Western Cathedralite overlords. (For the purposes of this essay, ‘the West’ will signify the cabal of cosmopolitan universalists who run the governments of the United States and the European Union.)
Euromaidan is not a ‘freedom fight’.
Despite what overzealous Ukrainian patriots and chronically misinformed U.S. television viewers may claim, the Euromaidan ‘protests’ are not a ‘freedom fight,’ a ‘fight for rights’ a ‘fight against tyranny’ or any other laughable ‘noble’ cause in action. First of all, take a look at these ‘protesters’:
Source: BBC
Source: RT
Source: NY Daily News
Source: AFP via Channel News Asia
Source: Fox News
These guys are ‘protesters’ in the same way I’m a woman i.e. they’re not. Note I used many different images showing different people from different news sources. Between the dozen or so gentlemen depicted above there are precisely zero protest signs, flags, placards or other indications of their opinion on whatever they’re ‘protesting’. On the other hand, I count a curiously high number of masks, helmets, riot shields, camouflage, military formations, Molotov cocktails, catapults, and—they said these guys were protesters!?
I don’t mean to condemn Ukraine’s street warriors at all, mind you, but the point needs to be made that what is going on in Ukraine is not a ‘protest’ the way Occupy Wall Street or the Tea Party rallies were ‘protests’. This is open combat between armed, armored and organized men on both sides. One side just happens to have POLICE stamped across their equipment, and the other doesn’t.
Furthermore, one shouldn’t forget that the beleaguered President Yanukovych didn’t come into office after a military coup or foreign intervention. He was elected. You know, through an election. Democracy. He is no Gaddafi, Mubarak, Assad, or even Putin or Lukashenko. There is no bloodthirsty tyrant in Ukraine and there are no innocent protesters. It’s easy to forget this when the Western media juxtaposes riots in Egypt and Ukraine and uses the same copy-pasted taglines for each. Yanukovych was elected with 48.95% of the popular vote, corresponding to the support of some 12 million Ukrainians, in no dishonest elections. So is Euromaidan a Washington-instigated revolution? At least Washington-funded, partly. There’s a bigger reason for the extreme violence though.
The Ukraine is a region, and there are two nations inhabiting it.
There is a ‘Ukrainian people’ in the same sense there is an ‘American people’. Take a look at this map of the 2004 elections in Ukraine, which roughly mirrors the 2010 election, as well as the locations of protests now in 2014.
Notice anything? Although the 2004 election was 51-44 to Yushchenko (for our purposes, the pro-West guy) and the 2010 election was 49-45 to Yanukovych (pro-East), the electoral breakdown by provinces reveals anything but a rough 50-50 split among the population. Only three out of more than 25 regions showed anything close to a 50-50 split. On the contrary, we see a very pronounced geographical split. The Far West around the city of Lviv returned support for Yushchenko (and later Tymushenko) at rates of more than 90%. The far East showed precisely the opposite, with an insane 96.2% share of the vote for Yanukovych in Donetsk oblast in 2004. The oblasts show a striking split in the middle as well, hardly registering a geographical gradation of support. Poor Kirovohrad oblast in the center there had no majority candidate (only a plurality for Yushchenko with 47%), and is surrounded on the North by >60% Yushchenko oblasts and on the South by >60% Yanukovych oblasts.
For comparison, only a handful of U.S. states were >60% for either Romney or Obama in the 2012 Presidential election. Heavily Mormon Utah only managed 72% for Romney, and even Obama’s extremely liberal birth state of Hawaii only just barely managed to break the 70% barrier. Those were the only two states with >70% returns for either candidate. Take a look at that map of Ukraine again.
I’ll simplify by saying that the reality in Ukraine is that there are two nations: East Ukrainians and West Ukrainians. In the East, Ukrainians speak Russian, feel a sense of camaraderie with Russia, vote Yanukovych and don’t ‘protest’. In the West, Ukrainians speak Ukrainian, feel a sense of camaraderie with Europe, hate Russia and thus become prone to violently clashing with the pro-Russian government’s police when it drops a European trade agreement. It’s telling that both ‘liberals’ and ‘nationalists’ are listed on Wikipedia as being anti-government, i.e. anti-Yanukovych, while the Russian bloc and the Communist (i.e. former Soviet) Party are listed as both anti-protest and anti-government. In the Euromaidan conflict, one can make out the liberal vs. nationalist politics characteristic of European nation-states as well as the conservative-authoritarian vs. Communist-authoritarian politics characteristic of Russia and other post-Soviet states. Again, this is no coincidence—Ukraine is two nations in one state.
More interesting than the demo-political reality on the ground are the responses of the two powers involved—the West and Russia. First some geopolitical background:
Russia is a land-power based in the Eastern third of Europe. Russia’s geopolitical goals are, and have always been, to expand its borders as far out as possible in every possible direction to put as much space as possible between its heartland and potential invaders. Not a bad strategy either—Napoleon and Hitler were defeated primarily by distance. Russia has pursued this strategy in recent years as well, although more reticently than before since it’s still working on securing its heartland and its immediate periphery in the wake of the collapse of the USSR. See: 2008 war with Georgia, Putin’s suppression of insurgencies in South Russia. Russia’s geopolitical strategy can be summed up a few words: Dagestan first, Kazakhstan later, Afghanistan sometime far in the future.
Russia is one of only two countries on the planet that pose any military (or other) threat to the hegemony of the United States, alongside China. Russia is thus a natural enemy of the United States, history aside. If Russia’s goals are to expand its sphere and borders at any cost, Washington’s goals are to suppress Russia’s sphere and borders at any cost. And they have been pursuing this goal feverishly. Just Google ‘US military bases’ and take a gander at how many have popped up around Russia.
Back to Ukraine. The country is practically split in half between the sphere of the West, backed by United States naval power, and the Russian East, backed by Russian land power, and the fault line runs right through Kirovohrad oblast and, of course, Kiev.
Geopolitics! Source: Guardian
The United States has already been shamelessly interfering in Ukraine at the expense of Russian interests (see: John McCain’s visit, Nuland phone call, alleged funding of ‘protesters,’ etc.), to no one’s surprise. Russia, on the other hand, has remained curiously dormant. The battle for Ukraine is happening on Russia’s doorstep, and in Russia’s historical birthplace: the plains of the Kievan Rus. Yet Putin’s face shows up in the news only next to the words “Sochi Olympics.”
Is Russia ignoring its interests?
Though it may seem like it, I would say not. If the violence at these protests reveals anything to Russian strategists (and to us), it is that Western Ukraine is anything but prepared to follow Moscow’s lead. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. Western Ukraine is one more powder keg of ethnic violence that Moscow can’t afford to control. The aforementioned Caucasian region is causing enough trouble already. The Sochi Olympics are an extravagant, but still tentative, declaration of victory over the Islamic troublemakers if the recent bombings in Volgograd are any indication.
As of writing, ‘protesters’ in Lviv have seized a regional military base. The death toll in Kiev is rising. Ukraine is lurching toward all-out civil war. And, if actual war breaks out, Russia will have no interest in seizing the angry West. On the contrary, the severed pro-Russian East will be more than happy to join Russia’s sphere of influence, if not Russia itself, with the legal demands imposed by union with the West removed. By allowing Ukraine to flare, Russia is increasing its chances of expanding its borders Westwards. But isn’t it also allowing its enemies to move the geopolitical front straight to Russia’s borders? Simply put, no. For this to happen, Western Ukraine would have to be legally drawn into the European Union or some other major agreement with it or the United States. Even an independent West Ukraine would be too large, backwards, troubled and scarily right-wing to quickly integrate into the EU. Agreements with the West could be made, but no conceivable Ukrainian treaty with the West would be bad enough to make Russia reconsider a shot at reclaiming direct control over the Crimea and the Black Sea.
Russia is doing what it does best: waiting. And if Putin’s recent anti-U.S. pronouncements are any indication, he knows Russia won’t need to wait long before its invaders run out of money and go home to deal with their own overdue ethnic conflicts. And when that happens glory to Russia!!
By Mark Yuray
http://web.archive.org/web/20140223194654/http://theden.tv/2014/02/22/the-euromaidan-in-ukraine-geopolitics-in-action/#sthash.dNps7lHT.dNps7lHT.dpbs
Bullshit. ALMOST ALL CIVILIAN DEATHS ARE IN THE REBEL CONTROLLED AREAS, NOT IN THE ARE OF DONBASS OCCUPIED (THEN) BY THE MILITANT NAZI, WHO WERE SENT IN AFTER THE UKRAINIAN ARMY WAS TURNED AROUND OR STARTED FLYING RUSSIAN FLAGS WHEN THE LOCALS IN DONBASS CONFRONTED THEM AND BLOCKED THEM!
Now to go to before the Ukrainian soldiers started flying Russian flags:
Why do we need to bring justice to the victims of 8 years ago and to understand how this started so we can resolve the War in Donbass, which started 8 years ago?
Because even with Russian Soldiers, even with Russian infiltration, even with Putin behind everyone, it was the people of those areas that in overwhelming support, aided, and empowered the subversion, at the same time, the rightful rebellion against the fascist led Coup isn't a paper tiger, it was the Babushkas that stood in front of the tanks, to which Kiev responded by sending in Nazi Militants responsible for the violent sniper massacre!
From Wikipedia:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion/
Next..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnipro-1_Regiment/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donbas_Battalion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector
https://www.fpri.org/article/2015/10/ukraine-the-squandered-renaissance/
Now
Wikipedia:
O yeah, everything is Russia, even the coup of 14 was Russia and especially all opposition to the coup.
So then lets caricature your ilk to the Max:
Listen to the blatant admission in the beginning about starting the war, Quote here:
https://towardfreedom.org/story/archives/europe/how-ukraines-jewish-president-volodymyr-zelensky-made-peace-with-neo-nazi-paramilitaries-on-front-lines-of-war-with-russia/
Now go Fight, for independence you say!
Go fight! Support your 8 year war!
Йди нахуй! Це тобі зрозуміло?
Facts hurt your butt. Big bad Nazi, Crumbles under Facts. Who would have thunk it?! Brave Ukraine, Death to Donbass Separatists!
For iNdEpEnDeNcE!! fOr uKrAiNe!
How many Followers are you Swindling?
BOOM! Fool Them Now Bitch, Do you Capiche Comprende Idiotololol
TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN CIVILIAN, MAY YOUR HUMAN SHIELDS NEVER RUN OUT!
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