RE: $129 auto posts?
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Well time is an interesting way to try to judge the value of a post, it's really not a concern.
How a post is created is of little interest to me, nor is the time spent on it.
Someone may edit a piece of art, or a boring blog post for hours, it doesn't make it more interesting.
I upvote some of the posts you have listed, because they present interesting or relevant information.
Just as I don't pay for music based on how long it took to write the song, but rather whether or not I want to listen to the song. Novels are printed for distribution with automation, the 3rd print editions still sell at the price the market will support, not on the effort it took to print them.
No matter how many hours a Janitor works he/she likely isn't going to make more than a well organized CEO.
Effort just isn't a factor.
Please see NFTs and other examples.
These reports are mostly done to farm reports without any effort. While they may have valuable information, there is zero valuable effort.
So you are ok with someone writing one post (the script to auto create these "reports") then generating thousands of Hive while it runs on auto pilot while legitimate authors struggle to make $2?
I upvote what I am interested in consuming. (reading)
I'm not sure I would consider many if any "Legitimate Authors" or even how that would be defined.
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I do vote also some of the stats posts, as whatsup says are useful and have valuable info, I get your point though, the earnings that generate may be excessive. Difficult issue to solve if there is something to be solved.
It's not difficult at all, we have voting up and down to make our opinions on value clear.
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Yeah but no one or very few would downvote whales and risk their own status in the blockchain just for such a disagreement on the rewards, and it's IMO that more than a system abuse as the users Marky mentioned are in fact respected members of this community.
If people care enough about what they consider to be "abuse" a very strong word, they have tools. I would categorize it more as a difference in opinion.
The integrity of the platform is based on those tools. In my experience, when something becomes enough of a problem people will act. :)
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So you are against someone writing a piece of software and selling it to people for $0.99 - 500? Yes, there is a gimp to everyone's Photoshop.... But.... This hits different when you shift perspective a bit no? I'm all for free and open source software, but we are on a capitalist finance based Blockchain... So....
Clearly this went over your head.
Seems to be pretty clear to me. Wondering what I seem to have clearly missed...
Read the post again maybe :P
There was a discussion on Steevc post about this.
This is something i feel will never change on Hive unfortunately.
When long form content (blogging) is considered the pinnacle of quality, no other content form can compete.
This isnt really about effort put in because a Hiver can write a 500 word blog post in 10 mins with ease, while someone from twitter or facebook will take an hour+, struggle, and it still wont be as good.
The Hiver will put in much less effort yet both pieces of content will appear on equal ground, more or less.
What It has always been about is: quantity of non repetitive text for most people when determining the "most valuable" content.
A post of a tweet length can never trend on Hive but a shitty badly written short story might.
And that will not change while all content forms share the same reward pool.
We have the tools to deal with the differences of opinion. Upvotes and downvotes. Those who choose to use them can.
Regarding audience and users, I have no idea why we would want to limit ourselves to aspiring authors, when engagement and social networks is a much bigger audience, thus opportunity.
:) Funny how things never change. Price goes up or down, it's time to get mad about rewards again. lol
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We should not be discussing difference of opinion. Thats pointless.. We should discuss the fact that different content forms cannot coexist. 1 type always takes over and sets a standard. .
That set standard is what most people point to when they start downvoting.
Discussing opinions solves nothing in practice. Discussing design, might.
Yeah, agree. The different tribes makes the curation more targeted, tho. I like that. But definitely still some holes. For some reason I think that this will get corrected with time as the supercurators will take care of each own tribe, etc. Hope it makes sense, is too late in here :P
Sometimes it results in consensus.
GREAT POINT.
Valid points. However: I spent a fair amount of brain time and physical time writing a thoughtful post about splinterlands. I think I added real value as specifically trading cards are my field of expertise in RL. However, due to the gazillion posts that appear from nowhere everyday, the main curators just didn't saw my post. So I got like 1 dollar out of it, while a random Venezuelan teen (No hate here, is the reality) posting a photo of the roasted chicken he is going to eat or a nerd that set up an auto post with formatted APY data of some sort some evening two years ago is getting $25 daily.
I totally understand @themarkymark 's concerns, as I can tell you I was totally discouraged from repeating the creative and intellectual process. Is just about incentives; I got better return elsewhere.
Tell me about it.
Also a valid point, but you have 88 followers and mostly write short, pointed posts, which I don't see as an issue, but I can see how those looking for in depth data rich posts, might not have looked there.
Over time though, despite feeling discouraged from time to time, high quality writers tend to build an audience over time.
Thanks for your view!
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Yeah, understood. I mostly "buzz" on @dbuzz as the format suits me better as Im a heavy twitter user with 800+ quality followers; I mostly tweet about collecting, scarcity, finances and crypto. I guess that's why I found dbuzz better for me.
But yeah, will probably return to long post here and there as basically all writing compounds over time and it is nice to post it somewhere, anyways, haha
I'm a huge fan of short form and I am not being critical of your short posts. I just meant it was different material when you posted your Splitnerlands post! Building an audience can fix this!
I hope we can get more support for short form here. As per the entire conversation, I am not a fan of making this a job... Engaging and relevant are way more important that word count! :) It isn't and should never be about effort.
Skill levels are not the same and results rarely in any natural market are based on effort.
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Yeah, we are definitely in the same page. Also, there is a new microblogging project in the works by the guys at @leofinance so I guess that the flow is going towards that.
Nice ideas, thanks! Followed.
your best bet (starting out) is to find an account, or a couple accounts or a community that post stuff similar to the stuff you post and reply to their posts.
If you get some responses, keep it up.
If you get crickets, keep looking.
That was a nice idea, thanks. I'm not actively looking for "hive success" tho as I have a decent job and tend to be quite swamped with it. But it was just venting the frustration, I guess, and Marky just hit the spot, haha.
yeah i thought we were over this
lets build better front ends that just show the best posts not highest value payout