H. denisova Shown to have Persisted Almost to the Younger Dryas

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neanderthal-sivan.jpgSource - cdna.artstation.com

Genetic analysis of our DNA has revealed that humanity is far more of a melting pot than we have ever suspected. Legends of giants, trolls, brownies, and faerie peoples may well have been rather more accurate reports of naturalists than, well, fairy tales, given the discovery of multiple human species and that we are their hybrid posterity.

H. neanderthalensis are the familiar iconic cave men of 20th Century anthropological representations. Once thought to be little more than brutes, new evidence of their rapacious intelligence, which should have been obvious from the fact their brains were ~25% larger than our own, have hinted that their failure to alter their environment with structures was not due to inability to conceive of such structures, but of a cultural imperative like the Prime Directive of Star Trek, to not alter the glorious natural environment they lived in, but to be competent to thrive in it despite the almost arctic glacial climate.

Neanderthals were far less social than are we, and tended to live in small tribal and family groups rather than the far larger tribal groups and clans we did. This exacerbated the extremity of the difficulty of their profession, which was specializing in the largest and most deadly game of the ice age environment, such as wooly rhino, mammoth, and included the most dangerous predators of the day. It remains amazing to me that a lone hunter armed with nothing more than a pointy stick would not only successfully take down a bull mammoth massing over ten tons, but would do so regularly, and survive to old age in the process. Their cultural elitism must have been infuriating to men that could only in hordes drive such game over cliffs aided by fire and dogs.

The people of Europe and Asia are shown to be hybridized with H. neanderthalensis, while the far wider genetic diversity in Africa has revealed no such hybridization.

In the last two years quite significant discoveries both archeologically and archeogenetically have shown that H. denisova produced art, which only our human species had previously been thought capable of, and last interjected their genes into our species as recently as 15kya, just prior to the cataclysm that precipitated the Younger Dryas that plunged Earth into a nuclear winter for a thousand years and caused the extinction of almost all mammals larger than 100 kg, and no less than 35 genera.

In a cave sacred to Buddhists in Tibet, Denisovan DNA has been found in sediments, likely coprolithic in source, both predating H. sapien occupation and contemporaneous with it. Given that the gene that enables Tibetans to thrive in the oxygen reduced atmosphere caused by the great elevation of the Tibetan plateau has been acquired by hybridization with H. denisova, that cohabitation in Tibet seems to have been a genetically beneficial event.

However, prior to the end of the height of glaciation around 15kya, a massive amount of productive coastal lands were inhabited, such as Doggerland in Europe, where the sea now separates England from the continent, and Sundaland, in South East Asia, where today island archipeligos stretch from Malaysia to New Guinea but was then a part of the Asian continent.

Sundaland seems to have been where H. denisova last hybridized with us, as in unknown civilizations that thrived in the verdant jungles now subsumed by ocean at about the time the glaciers began overflowing the former banks of their limits, about 15kya our species mingled. Gunung Padang has been estimated to be up to 25k years old, and in Pohnpei at Nan Madol the similar massive bulwarks of stacked natural basalt columns remains unreliably dated. The intriguing questions we must ask to understand the genesis of such archeological remnants are now immensely complicated by the genetic contribution of Denisovans to the peoples of the Pacific region, Australasians and Melanesians.

Early the claim was made that H. denisova may have averaged well over 2 meters in stature, which would have caused them to tower over Neanderthals and ourselves by over half a meter. While H. naledi in S. Africa seems to have left no recent remains, H. floresiensis, the Hobbits who have been discovered to have lived on the island of Flores, adjacent to Komodo, of dragon fame, have been dated to relatively recent times, less than 50kya, making them contemporaneous with the apparently quite cosmopolitan civilization of Sundaland, where Denisovan giants and aboriginal peoples mixed.

From Hobbits a meter tall, to Denisovans nearing 3 meters tall, it is ever more necessary to reconcile fairy tales with the actual reality of antediluvian humanity. Far more truth than expected seems to have been retained by our myths and legends. We can only prove such people existed by their latest dated remains, but it is absolutely certain that those most recently dated remains aren't the very last individuals of their species'. They're only the last examples we have found, and fossilization, especially in hot, humid climates like S. Asia, is an extreme rarity.

Only recently mammoth remains have been shown to be only a few thousand years old. Again, the rarity of such remains being preserved means what we have found remaining is not the last individuals that roamed alive. The statistical likelihood of fossilization suggests that for every such fossil, many thousands of unpreserved individuals lived and died we will not find evidence of. It is almost certain that our Bronze Age ancestors did see and know mammoths, and possibly many such ice age species we have no proof lingered on after the Younger Dryas only because fossilization is so rare.

This is just as true for human remains as elephants, if not more so. Trolls, giants, and brownies, elves, or hobbits, of the faerie folk seem to have not been fantastic inventions of imaginative story tellers, but the actual meeting and interactions of diverse human species recounted by oral historians. Discoveries of Denisovan DNA in Siberia and on the Tibetan Plateau as well as the prevalence of it in the islands formerly part of Sundaland and surrounding islands indicate that H. denisova were extremely widespread, possibly even as far as the Americas, and their great stature suggests that the many giant skeletons claimed to have been found in 19th Century archeological digs in the Americas may not all have been spurious. Denisovan DNA is prevalent there, and the dating of DNA is certainly just beginning to be possible, and is absolutely ripe for reconsideration as all new technologies are certain to advance in sophistication and be improved over time.

Given art that could only have been created by H. denisova on the Tibetan Plateau by ~170kya, and the certainty that highly advanced technological capabilities provably were used to create the prehistoric megalithic structures found today in Peru, Rapanui, Egypt, Lebanon, India, and elsewhere, and the certainty that H. denisova and H. neanderthalensis lived far more recently than the paltry proofs of their physical remains we have found, the assumptions of archeologists regarding the development of civilization are certain to be far more fantasy than are fairy tales.

KNOBS-PERU-EGYPT.jpgSource - Hidden Inca Tours

Knobs-India.jpgSource - Hidden Inca Tours. These pics show the characteristic knobs associated with megalithic construction are evident on three continents and date to thousands of years before historians concede global trade or intercourse existed. Clearly, a global civilization capable of producing megalithic structures by a means that left these knobs long predated our current historical period.

The continued censorship of the tunnels beneath the Giza plateau linking the Sphinx and the Pyramids in an underground network that has been mapped by ground penetrating radar from satellites in space is evidence we are being lied to. Our true history is being concealed, below the pyramids, perhaps in the Vatican libraries as well. From the seas of Europe, India, and Southeast Asia, to the tunnels and underground cities of Egypt and Turkey, the light of day has yet to be shone on evidence of our origins, hidden underneath our feet.



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First, what a great article and hypothesis. The Nazis destroyed evidence, lots of evidence, the Islamists destroy lots of evidence these days and we can be sure that the Catholics went all into destroying evidence. I mean the Vatican up to this day owns a majority of the big optical telescopes, they are known to influence science.

Were they really all different species? (the old lumpers vs. splitters debate) There is a big incentive in finding a new species. The Hobbits (and often it is only a few bones that were found and often only of one individual) could have been just small humans. DNA analysis would reveal, but samples are rare. There is no natural law preventing a big intraspecies divergence, in fact, it is rather the norm than the exception.

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This

What do you know about gnostics? :)

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I would argue that gnosticism was the default but with the emergence of big empires/ politics we shiftet to a purely materalistic and mechanistic world view. When I say old I dont refer to Romans, Germans, Gauls, Skytians, Agyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Maya and so on. I mean before those civilisations emerged so the "Cradle of civilization", before humany entered the exponential virus like growth dynamic (which was 40,000 years ago). So 30,000 years of populatory succes are without any civilatory explanation. And even before 40,000 BC there are 300,000! years modern hunting humans inhabiting for example Germany (Schöninger Speere).

The mistake modern humans do is taking empires, expansion, pyramids and mega-structures as evidence for intelligence. No, fuck that shit, its only evidence for a master-slave dynamik. So before, humans simply operated different.

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So you think Gnostics or old high culture with decentralization // pagans
Only managed to get those great architectures through slavery?

What if they were just the consequence of a non materialistic, also non religious premise?

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yeah, I get your point and maybe even our bodies can be used in ways we don't know, and here is the thing: it would implement the most extreme censorship possible. It would literally mean that I or you have absolutely no idea about history. It is possible! This would mean that they are almost almighty, so why should the knowledge about gnostics (which is out there) not be part of their plan?

Those alternative truths and options are very often energy traps, did you already get in touch with a non-materialistic truth/technology?

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I dont think they are almighty.
That's what they want you to believe/think.
That's why they might become almighty (if all do so // obey).

That's also what gnostics told.
Yeah gnosis survived. That doesnt mean they didnt try to delete it completely.
They genocided gnostics, cuz they just wont obey.
There are great quotes from gnostics last words. And I even see Giordano Bruno in a gnostic Light.

Tell me about censorship. Can you even talk about present? Let alone history..

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I will point out that Gobekli Tepe is a refutation of your thesis that megalithic construction was the product of master/slave dynamic. There is no theory presently being advocated that contends even agriculture supported the builders of Gobekli Tepe, which all researchers seem to currently agree was built by egalitarian voluntary hunter/gatherer builders. This is confounding historians and politicians alike, who insist that society, particularly civil society, is only possible after centralization enabled overlords.

I absolutely do not agree that centralization is necessary to the highest degree of civilization and contend that the most impressive examples of architecture, megalithic structures, were all produced by decentralized, egalitarian societies.

Also, unless you consider wage slavery to be actual slavery, the use of the term master is problematic in this context. I am more guilty than most of misusing the term to refer to political manipulation, so I do not levy this charge out of ignorance of my own mischaracterization, but as commiseration.

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Cladistics is in flux and the term species is at the heart of contention. The old definition that included exclusivity of breeding is impossible to support because hybrids exist, and likely the most common mechanism of speciation, although the Darwinian model doesn't support this.

Something along the lines of 'commonly exclusive breeding unit' is presently the contentious concept often put forward, but I prefer to ignore that metric, as it's clearly more observed in the breach, and focus on genotypic and phenotypic traits specific to populations.

I am a splitter myself, as such differences are conserved for evolutionary reasons, and quite significant differences in behaviour are induced by quite minor differences in phenotype, as well as being phenotypic differences themselves, despite we are largely unaware of mere behavioural genetic differences, and only becoming aware of them in the more extreme cases, such as 2R MAOA.

Hybridization is a core mechanism of speciation, and Dr. Eugene McCarthy (macroevolution.net), the author of 'The Handbook of Avian Hybrids' is a strong source of evidence in this regard, which well conforms to the fossil record, which gradualism does not.

As to few and minor bones enabling informed guesses as to speciel differences, The Iguanodon is a marvelous example of how this is both problematic, and resolved over time by adding material through new discoveries. The jaw bone found in the cave above mentioned remains impossible to prove is Denisovan with DNA, but the teeth found in Siberia show that Denisovans were of almost inhuman stature, perhaps averaging 7 feet in height, which is supported by legends of giants and trolls found in every culture globally, including American natives, which is also supported by claims giant skeletons were concealed by archeologists, and this jibes with my own, and commonly held, observations that our history is being deliberately concealed.

I am not claiming that any of this is probative, but merely that it is evidence which should not be ignored. We see often in the annals of scientific discussions that bullying, logical fallacies, and outright criminal fraud have been used in attempts to control the political narratives seeking to use claims of scientific support as means of controlling political power, and for this reason we should endeavor to strongly favor claims that do not feature such attempts to deceive.

I feel we should give claims we were and are different species broad allowance, particularly in view of such large phenotypic divergences as are suggested by fossil remains, and the fluidity of the definition of species. The political charade used to conceal evidence of our evolutionary divergences is perhaps the most compelling evidence we are different of all.

Thanks!

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Sheesh! and me here thinking that we had all arrived here by taxi directly from Tyche and Nibiru. :D

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While I am appreciative of Sitchin's depth of research, I have long discarded his theories, which are now strongly shown to be deliberately deceptive.

I have noted that such deception seems to invariably accompany narratives outside consensus, and speculate that claims of lizard people or ayliums may be resorted to as means to divert the clamor of conformists into immaterial backwaters that allow discussion of important matters to continue unimpeded by such disruption.

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Human history, the how we got to where we are today. The complexity of one living cell, with the billions that make up a mammal. How were we conceived? Good & Evil..

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This is evident in the genocides and crimes against humanity war criminals invariably undertake in the quest for political power.

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Yes, what is going on today is a mind opener. The rabbit hole gets deeper.

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Dear @valued-customer, In the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament, the Nephilim are a mixed race of fallen angels and human women.
Do you think that Adam's descendants and other human races existed? I think the Nephilim are the giant races that humans, descendants of Adam, destroyed.

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This is a common understanding for many who have heard of he Nephilim. I don't think such tales have no basis in fact, and the only reason Denisovans are called that is because the cave in which the first fossils were found was called Denisova Cave. I don't think the name matters. I do think that the evidence I have seen indicates that several human species have existed.

However, I can't know. I can only assess evidence and judge.

Thanks!

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