Hive Power Up Day | Monday 1 August 2022 - investing in ListNerds

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Opposite Hepworth Wakefield Gallery, West Yorkshire, UK (June 2022)

Hive Power Up Day

I'm powering up to 67,000 Hive Power (HP) today.
I'm aiming for 72,000 HP by 1 January 2023 and 100,000 HP by 1 April 2025.

I've recorded a couple of extra goals for passive growth:

  • HBD - rewards and 20% interest.
  • EDSM and EDSMM - both mine EDS for twenty-plus years at 200 EDS each year. EDS is an income token, paying liquid Hive each Monday.

There are about 10,000 EDS mini miners (EDSMM) available at 1 HIVE each (36% variable yield), each one offering 480 opportunities every 24 hours to mine EDS (28% yield).

Savings and Investments Plans

My focus has been building a portfolio of tokens that provide passive income (I read somewhere that millionaires have an average of seven passive income streams 😁).

I'm moving into the next phase of investment now: I have a couple of small short-to-medium term investments; I'm looking at delegations to curators that will help with Hive growth and retention, and, over the second half of the year, I will be exploring extending the range of witnesses that I support.

My first major investment in this phase is Listnerds - see below.

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Portfolio

@shanibeer

TokenAugust 2022TargetByNotes and Plans
Hive Power67,000100,0001 April 202501/01/23: 72,000
LEO5,0005,000achieveddelegated to @meowcurator, LEO income
HBD7121,5001 April 202520% HBD income - organic savings
SPI10,78510% of fundachieved growth token HIVE dividends Sundays (@spinvest)
EDS2,4383,0001 April 202528% income token HIVE income Mondays (@eddie-earner)
LBI5,0005,000achievedgrowth token LEO dividends Saturday (@lbi-token)
CL10011000achievedincome token LEO income Friday (@lbi-token)
EDSM5050achievedEDS Miner 20% return sold out (@eddie-earner)
EDSMM500500achieved EDS Mini Miner 20% return (@eddie-earner)

Notes
SPI - Starting fund: $13,000; Value 31/07/2022: $162,418
Disclaimer: I am part of the SPI leadership team and run the Saturday Savers Club on the @eddie-earner account.

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New Investment - ListNerds

SPinvest subscribed to ListNerds, a content discovery platform on the Hive Blockchain, as another income stream for the SPI fund. I became involved because I signed up to a free subscription in support. I had been put off from subscribing before then because of the branding, although I had seen numerous posts about it.

I've spent six or seven weeks learning about ListNerds. I'm still working out my plans for it, but it meets my investment criteria and has great potential as a second layer project on Hive:

Background to ListNerds

ListNerds is part of the CTP family. Previously it was a safelist for multi-level marketing: you signed up to read emails from bone fide marketers, safe from scammy links. Early in 2022, it was launched on Hive, with the new model tokenising sending and reading and responding to emails and creating new opportunities for content discovery.

ListNerds is a Web 3 enterprise built on top of Hive and offers the opportunity for multiple businesses or permissionless jobs, one of which can be your own Hive blog.

ListNerds is already demonstrating some nice models: one daily mailer is building a lovely conversational relationship with responders through a daily post, a couple of short videos each week and, occasionally, a gently controversial post. Some mailers are promoting newcomers to Hive, bringing them to a wider audience, and others are promoting communities, with links to newsletters, contests and daily challenges.

Opportunities for Creatives and Onboarding

ListNerds has a growing community of writers and graphic artists and it has barely tapped opportunities for growing an audience. You can grow your own people business, too, with teams that you support and which contribute to your income. It's a great channel for bringing new people to Hive, there's lots of structure, lots of resources including a helpdesk together with a low cost of entry. I haven't investigated it yet, but there could be synergy between ListNerds and the onboarding programme run by @ocd.

Development Plans and Egalitarian Features

ListNerds has a experienced team of people behind it with a range of skills including that rarest of unicorns, a developer. There has been a lot of development and more planned for the future. ListNerds is in the early stages of its life cycle with all the implications of that. As with most innovations, though, early adopters will be at an advantage long term.

Rewards are shared by voting, and the size of the vote you are able to give is determined by the size of your stake of the governance token, LISTNERDS. Mailers have to achieve a threshold of votes to receive a share of rewards and anti-social actors can be downvoted. Rewards are shared equally between everyone who achieves the threshold on the relevant day: rewards are not shared according to size of stake or to size of the vote received.

I really like the equal shares for everyone who achieves the threshold (votes to the value of twenty points). It helps to create wider distribution of the LISTNERDS token and more opportunities for new entrants to grow their stake, rather than wealth becoming disproportionately concentrated in a few accounts.

Redundancy

A key metric for looking at the health of the project is the distribution of LISTNERDS across the ListNerds community:

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This chart is produced as part of a weekly analysis by @mypathtofire. If the community is growing and doing well, I would expect to see a gradual reduction in the percentage of ListNerds going to the top ten stakeholders, and a movement towards a gradual increase in the percentage going to the long tail outside the top fifty stakeholders.

The chart shows this isn't happening yet. We've also seen an increase in the amount of LISTNERDS distributed per mail from 436 on 21 June 2022 to 1,121 on 22 July 2022 indicating a reduction in the number of mails that are achieving the threshold to qualify for a share of the rewards. There could be a number of reasons for this, one of which is redundancy in voting patterns by stakeholders.

Voting redundancy is where mails receive voting values many times larger than the threshold required to trigger a share of the rewards. It's an example of the Tragedy of the Commons, where behaviours that make sense in individual terms (in this case voting for a narrow range of mails) deplete and impoverish the community (the Commons) overall.

I've voted on approximately 250 eligible mails in the qualifying five weeks, only 14 of which have reached the threshold for rewards (see notes below). I employ a wide voting strategy, where I distribute my votes to as many different people as possible. If I receive several eligible mails from the same person in the same timescale (usually 24-36 hours), I will select the best one for my vote. I generally only vote on multiple mails from the same person if I have excess votes after distributing votes as widely as possible.

Using Community Voting to Promote Growth

This voting strategy takes time but to me, as an investor, it is critical to the sustainability and success of ListNerds. I have an interest in seeing the community grow and the creation of many permissionless jobs with wide distribution of wealth because it will make the project sustainable.

I would be interested in hearing which voting strategies other 'Nerds employ. For example:

  • Do you only vote for your team members, regardless of the number and quality of emails?
  • Do you prioritise newcomers for support (usually with a blue reputation below 100)?
  • What do you do about plagiarism and other anti-social behaviour?

I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below.

Gentle Suggestions

ListNerds is in its early days and there's lots to do. Here's a couple of suggestions that might help:

  • Reporting
    There's an absolute plethora of information sources for, by and about ListNerds. Even while writing this post, there was a conversation going on in Discord about scrolling back to find something someone said. How about a short weekly report on the @listnerds account with latest updates, any problems and what's happening about them and information about development plans under now, soon and later headings.
  • Community Meeting
    The CTP team provide lots of opportunities for engaging: this idea is for a community led meeting to discuss anything of interest to community members. For example: what we mean by anti-social behaviour and how to tackle it; or what our priorities are for ideas for development. One suggestion is for a Saturday or Sunday 8pm UTC (9pm BST) meeting, maybe once a month in the voice channel in the CTP Discord. Let me know your thoughts and any alternative suggestions in the comments.
  • Branding
    This is a suggestion for later as time has already gone into the branding and making changes at this stage may not be the priority. However, the branding put me off for four months and I'm only here by default, so it's worth mentioning. Among other groups of people, I wonder if the branding speaks to women, the decision makers for 64% of financial and spending decisions in families and who form 96% of the multi-level marketing industry in the UK.

Notes

  • "... only 14 [mails] have reached the threshold for rewards ..."
    There was a period when the counter was broken, but it appears to be working now and ticking over at 1 mail every few days.
  • ListNerds White Paper
    Includes rewards for staking which were not covered in the discussion above.
  • ListNerds review by @raj808
    Discussion of latest developments and helpful list of ListNerds pros and cons.

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Thinking About Joining ListNerds?

If you decide you would like to try ListNerds, please consider using @spinvest's referral link:
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Click HERE to sign up to ListNerds under the SPI team.

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That's quite a stack you've powered up @shanibeer

Good on you :-)
For me, because I had to sell such a chunk of my hive a few years back to pay off a debt that was getting to the point where I was having to havve fisticufs with debt collectors, my best way to try and get back to the 10k+ levels is to play the market as HBD and Hive seem to keep having pumps, and if you catch them right you can double or even triple your initial trade.

I got one last night on the hive pump where I ended up turning around 39 HBD into 95 HBD.
So no HPUD days for me for a while at least as I need my at least 50% of my hive liquid to take advantage of these pumps.

But congrats on your HPUD power up 🙂

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Using pumps to re-build your stack is a good plan, and that was a lovely result 😍.

!CTP

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That's a nice growth spurt in HBD.

Congratulations.

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What a great update. I really like some of those suggestions. It is an exciting time in the project and I am interested to see where it goes from here.

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What do you think about the community meeting?

!CTP

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It sounds like a good idea. I think there is the cryptomaniacs meeting..

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Are we talking about the same thing? I'm suggesting once a month on a Saturday or Sunday evening? When is cryptomaniacs?

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You are much more organised with your investments than me, but I have some goals. I hope to reach 100k HP next year, but that will depend on whether I need the money and whether I can keep up my consistency in posting. I do pretty well from passive income anyway.

Today's pump will have got people excited, but I am still playing the long game.

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100k would be nice, but may not be necessary for me - 67k is quite comfortable 😍.
It is nice being able to support more initiatives.

The pump was fun!

!CTP

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I'm pretty comfortable now, but I want to keep on growing my account. It's paying for my trip to Hivefest, but obviously now would have been a better time to do that. It's hard to second guess where the markets are going, but I keep on earning anyway.

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I'm the same, I'll keep growing - there's no reason not to at the moment.

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That's a beautiful picture!

Thanks for sharing your three-year HP goal. EDS, EDSM, and EDSMM are new tokens for me. Thanks also for sharing your thoughts about ListNerds.

!CTP

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Glad you found out about EDS - that's one of my favourite tokens!

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Is there a white paper or an article that explains more about the mechanics of the token?

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There is a report every Monday on the @eddie-earner account which explains the model and progress to date. This is the latest one.

Essentially, the token, EDS, and its miners, EDSM and EDSMM, are sold for HIVE. All the HIVE is powered up, together with any HIVE from content creation, airdrops etc, and leased out. The income earned from leasing forms the basis of the income that is paid out to EDS token holders.

It is a very simple model that doesn't overpromise and which has a low cost of entry (1 HIVE). You can buy EDS directly from the market, too, they are pegged to 1 HIVE.

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I know, right. Seeing three year goals really got me thinking about where I was going with my goals.

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A mid-term goal is far better than a short-term goal in terms of having a broader perspective. Of course, for motivation purposes resulting from a sense of satisfaction coming from accomplishing something, setting up short-term goals is helpful too.

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I've had the 100k HP goal for a while now. I needed to put a date on it.

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Still got that SPS I hope? It's tinkling up...

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Yes, that's one of my short to medium term investments 😍

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Great update and information. I am not sure now you can tell if an email you voted on has made the verification threshold yet.

I only own 600 CTP so I am limited to 5 votes per day. I read thru the daily 80-100 emails and vote on the ones that I think are best. Yes I vote on newbies where the name matches the email post. I tend to downvote any links where Norton Antivirus tells me it is a dangerous site to go to(usually gathering personal info). I will generally skip Actifit post and not vote on them. I like travel and the inkwell stuff.
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if an email you voted on has made the verification threshold yet.

I don't think you can tell yet whether a specific email has reached the threshold, and generally the counter doesn't seem to be working very well. I've not been able to tell whether I have received any additional CTP either, so we are a bit in the dark about this at the moment.

You've got a good voting strategy there. Have you received many alerts about many sites from Norton Antivirus?

I'm glad that you've found some content you enjoy 😍.

!CTP

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There is only one bad actor that I see occasionally. They have a reputation below 10 and it is always about Multi level marketing. Only one or two per week.
I claim around 1 ctp per day from my 600 CTP stake. Click on your CTP total at the top of the screen and press claim.

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so... I have a bigger CTP stake than you 3800, and I don't get a whole CTP per day from reading mails.

I get like half.

I wonder what I can do differently.

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Looking at the criteria from the CTP balance page.
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The CTP token is staked and is the primary token for mail verifications. Every time you take part in a mail verification, you will earn a portion of the total rewards pool. Your active portion is based on the number of verifications you take part in versus the total verifications.

When you stake CTP on ListNerds you will earn a portion of the passive rewards pool. Your passive portion is based on the amount you have staked versus total staked across the site.
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I would guess that I am voting on more of the post that get verified each day.
I vote on around 5 per day which is how many votes I get per day with 600 CTP. Maybe I am lucky and vote on the ones getting verified. Are you voting each day?

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!CTP
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This conversation is highlighting that we need more information in our wallet about where CTP is coming from - which posts have been verified.
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Thanks for the reminder. I just powered up.

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Good to hear 😍.

How come your comment was downvoted?

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I would be interested in hearing which voting strategies other 'Nerds employ. For example:

Do you only vote for your team members, regardless of the number and quality of emails?
Do you prioritise newcomers for support (usually with a blue reputation below 100)?
What do you do about plagiarism and other anti-social behaviour?
I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below.

I vote a lot more members than the team. I believe that there is plenty of great content out there, even if the topic is sometimes not to my liking, once I notice the author made an effort (read: not copy pasted someone else's words and refrained from mentioning it was a curation email) I vote them often.

BUT there are exceptions, as my vote is worth 50% verification at this point, I have a HUGE group of emails that I don't feel should be voted by my account as I don't think they made enough effort, or are too spammy imo, this does not mean that I think they deserve to be downvoted either, therefore I don't vote.

I have changed to this voting behavior once my voting value became 50% of verification needed, I feel somewhat responsible to spread my votes wisely. Whenever I notice someone stepping up their game, I change this to upvoting their content, but it also goes the other way around, people making great effort and then becoming lazy and "milking" don't see my vote at these emails.

If I don't vote one email from someone it doesn't mean I won't vote the second one either, I try to engage with most people and keep an eye on what they're doing in terms of LN / Hive and engaging in general :)

I have to say that it's great to see some people step up from low effort content to content that's enjoyable to read, which is great and encouraging to read!

Reporting

I believe this is very important, as you brought up in the discord today, your totally on point regarding a headsup (when important news is going to be discussed) as well as shownotes for the next day. We all only have 1440 minutes a day to spend and I don't like watching podcasts that suddenly are mostly about things that don't interest me. If I know in advance it will be about Listnerds and something about development or upcoming changes it's more likely that I try to watch the replay the next day. We should not forget that a lot of us are readers, not watchers and we would also appreciate written updates so we can chose if we find it worth watching or not.

Community meeting

Count me in, great idea! I will do my best to be there!

I shall stop writing now, it's turning into a book like @raj808's comments (no offense hun :) )

Thanks for joining the LN family @shanibeer!

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There's quite a lot to reading and verifying emails 😍.

I think it's also a bit confusing about "quality of the email" - I've taken that to mean the quality of the content the email is linking you to. I think about "is the email bringing value"?

Reporting - I like it simple: a short weekly post on a standard template so I know where to look for things would be grand.

As an investor, I'd also like to know more about weekly sign ups, retention rates, numbers of emails posted/verified and links through to the full richlist for ListNerd CTP holders and LISTNERDS. But later :)

a book like @raj808's comments

Well, he is a writer 😁

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It's a combination of things honestly. If someone writes shitty content (of course everyone has their personal opinion and should decide what that is) it truly doesn't matter if you create the email with fancy graphics imo. In fact, that's even deceiving in a way :)

Not writing anything of your own words in an email (not even 2 sentences) just copy paste something from a random website on google into the email editor and then send it out as your daily content on Listnerds, that's just wrong! Even if that part that's copied and is well-written, if not written by the mailer him/herself, it's just plagiarism, even if it leads to a fabulous website with good content. This happened A LOT in the past, and that's an absolute downvote for me.

There are some other things I will or will not vote but everyone should decide for themselves in the end. What I absolutely disagree with is downvoting people that write original content that took hours to write/edit and then they downvote it because it's an older hive post instead of recent. Especially if the downvoters are very low content creators themselves. That's just a kick in the gut, but in the end, it is still their decision, but I don't agree with it.

People may also not agree with my voting behavior, that's fine too. I don't feel every email should be upvoted by everyone. Especially not if both the content in email and post it leads to are not my topic/low quality/badly written. On Hive self, this in general will also mean you won't see high payouts if you are a low quality/spammy content creator. I tend to vote with some sort of "Hive-etiquette" in mind myself :)

Will tag you here too @metzli as you asked the question as well.

As an investor, I'd also like to know more about weekly sign ups, retention rates, numbers of emails posted/verified and links through to the full richlist for ListNerd CTP holders and LISTNERDS. But later :)

I personally love stats myself so I would love to see this too!

Thanks for setting up the community meeting!

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When you mention "quality of content" do you mean the emails or the posts they lead to?

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That looks pretty advanced. Have fun on your path and Godspeed with your Hive cultivation!
!CTP

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Happy HPUD - you have got some seriously impressive stacking numbers there ! Clearly showing it can be done !
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Yeah, it can be done, slow and steady 😍

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You goal is quite straightforward and love the fact that you are working towards it. Keep doing the good work, I hope to meet you at 100k

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Great photo! They've built boats there for as long as I can remember from being a small child going into Wakefield where I was born and lived just 4 miles along the road away from Wakefield pastbthe Hepworth which of course was once a huge mill.
Thanks for the reminder :-)

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I loved it, I had too little time there. The gallery is amazing, the whole site as well as the building, I would have liked more time to wander round. Still, I know how to get there now.

I didn't realise you come from so near by :)

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Happy Hive power up day.

I see you've already achieved many of the goals that you have set and are working towards other like 100K HP

From your post I can see that Listnerds is an interesting project. I hope they'll act on your suggestions to help make the community even better.

Have a great week.

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Hi @bearmol, good to see you. How's life?

Do you think I might get a prize from the Saturday Savers Club this week? 😁

It takes time, but eventually you get where you're going to.

I'm looking forward to taking the rest of the month off now.

You take care now 😍

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You certainly deserve a prize for your efforts.lol

Enjoy the time off.

I hope to get some time off later on in the month as well.

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Awesome synopsis of the program, @shanibeer

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😍

What do you think about the community meeting idea?

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I think that would be a good idea. The difficult part is the multiple time zones but I think it would be doable.

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What time would 8pm UTC (9pm BST) be for you? And would Saturday or Sunday be better? I know you have grandchildren around you 🙂.

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8 pm UTC would be 3 pm for me, so either Saturday or Sunday would be fine.

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You got some really good results and the stack of HP is impressive. I'm also into ListNerds for the second month and I like what I see so far.

Came from ListNerds and voted there!

ListNerds

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Great you are enjoying it, hope you have every success 😍

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There are many of good points you bring up but I will jump to two main ones.

Rewards

I have been seeing mine increase and it alarms how high it got me. Obviously, I am not gonna complain, but at the same time, it does mean overall that the system, or us as users in specific, might not be as welcoming to newbies and people without teams as we should. I personally have 220 votes to cast at full voting power and I have even voted for people with 0 reputations when the mail was good. Still, I think that's a point that needs to be improved by us users the most.

Meetings

Despite the meeting being scheduled at 11 PM for me, count me in. I have made several posts where I suggested that so I will gladly push for it here. I don't think we are coordinated enough.

I even hosted a big contest last month to spread the word about Listnerds which cost me 120$ in total. It's not like a fortune but it is worth a lot to me. Still, I didn't even have the support I was promised let alone a few extra steps that would have mattered in the short and long run. So, definitely better coordination.

I think this is a great time, and a crucial one to have such meetings and I believe Listnerds have grown enough to warrant its own category rather than having to watch shows or read posts where 95-100% of them have nothing to do with us.

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I think you are right. ListNerds has some great collaborative mechanisms built into it, and we need to be a little more co-ordinated and focused to make the best use of them.

I've put the time as a suggestion: thank you for committing to come, even though it would be late for you. It may be as we go into the winter that we can pull the time a little earlier. Let's see what's possible.

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This was absolutely splendid -- I am also seeking passive income and this was a good look at Listnerds from the perspective of spillover effects.

I also support a short weekly report ... as a former professional journalist with that training, I worry that with all the changes taking place and the drop in the token price (because not knowing the buy wall was going to be dropped was a terrible shock from an investment viewpoint ... tokens that would have been worth X in May are now worth pennies on the dollar) and the technical hiccups that without clear info, the story of Listnerds and what it can do will get buried as people try to figure it out through the lens of understandable frustration. A clear report every week that answers people's real questions and addresses their real concerns will keep that critical mass from occurring.

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Your points about clear communication are really important and fundamental to building trust and confidence in a project and its team.

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Nice powerup and I think Listnerds is great but I haven't really had that much time to revisit it. I do think your suggestions on it sound good but it's been a few months since the last time I checked things out there.

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There's so many things going on on HIVE - which I guess overall is a good thing 😍.

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So diligent!!!!

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Hehe 😂

I'm a bit set and forget, so eventually, when you do look after several years, it's accumulated.

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Hey, I think it's really cool that you even take the time to read & analyze the emails in that way. You're right it sounds very time consuming. I never really thought about having a strategy for this. Lately I barely have time for reading the emails let alone comparing multiples from someone. So I just pick out a few, open, read, click link and see if article interest me. So I guess you could say that my vote is based on the post it's linked to. Anything that's not Hive or Hive/Crypto related, gets a downvote.

Congrats! on those great goals of yours. I can't wait til I can be saying I'm powering up to 72,000 or even 10,000 at this point.

!CTP

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Hi there, thank you 😍

So you use downvotes to influence the type of content that you want to see? That's interesting. I get what you say about time, but after a while, I've found that I get to know the mailers and their content and that speeds things up. The challenge is the mail titles and content who don't give you any clue what the content is going to be about!

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I don't like downvotes, I rather not open the mail. Lately, when I see mail from these people of can tell it's of no interest to me, I just delete it. This way I'm not wasting my time opening unwanted mail. I will downvote a few if I see there are several on the list, but yes, the downvote eventually slows them down.

I do that too, sometimes I just open the mails from certain mailers cause I usually like their content & I know the link is taking me to Hive.

!CTP

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It has been a great pleasure to see you progress and grow your stack over time. I am continuing to cheer you on! 😁

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I am curious if you count HIVE as one passive income stream, or several?

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My listnerds strategy? I saved up enough CTP so that I could read and upvote every mail that came into my inbox (that I was interested in reading).

shhhh don't tell anyone, but if your name pops up too much, I just kind of delete the messages. Unless they are guaranteed to be upbeat and positive.

And if I see a newbie or a name I don't see often I am likely to go to the post, and not just skim it, but actually read it.

I like posts that are blockchain news related, tell me about a contest or opportunity I can join, teach me about a new project I can invest in, and also diary like posts, where I get to peek into the lives of people from around the world.

I don't always leave comments on the posts I read...

Even though I try not to be, I get sucked in by the "good" subject lines.

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Regarding the branding. I don't really see myself as a nerd...

I mean, I hang out with all the nerds, so I guess I am a nerd by default, but I don't feel like I am a socially awkward person, who hangs out on the computer because I have no friends in real life... which is what the branding made me feel it was for a loooooooooong time.

Although funny enough. Now that I read people's posts I notice that people have a lot of friends and do a lot of traveling with them where as I don't have any friends, so who's the nerd now, huh?

Anyway, I agree that there could be a second layer of the same project that could have completely different branding yet live on the same interface.

Also, I see listnerds being able to grow into a service where you can choose which people you send your mail too, and then, sign up your own people (with maybe lite hive accounts when they join your mailing list) and I would totally pay for that service.

Sometimes else that I wonder about is where the income from the paid subscriptions goes.All to the developers, infrastructure, site keeping? I'd love to know where, and if any of those funds are ever going to be available to buy listnerds.

I am preparing to buy a subscription, but I am thinking that once per day may be a little too much to ask the people of listnerds to read.

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I count HIVE income streams as follows:
inflation - passive
delegations (where there is a return) - passive
author - active
curation - slightly more complex, I tend to think of it as semi-passive.

Voting strategy - I recognise some of those habits 😁

Branding - interesting I hadn't caught up with the resonances of "nerd" - I did a google search: illuminating! It is the young white man stereotype that I find off-putting.

Thanks for your lovely response and all your interesting ideas 😍

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