RE: Spread the wealth.

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How is there no centralized barrier when there is clearly consolidated punching down from witnesses and whales to censor certain content?

https://ecency.com/hive-167922/@kennyskitchen/downvotes-a-complex-issue-indicative-of-a-failure-in-design

https://ecency.com/hive-122315/@phusionphil/why-are-the-top-30-witnesses-using-the-dpos-system-to-coerce-people-into-a-status-quo-on-hive

https://ecency.com/witness/@ura-soul/the-hive-freedom-proxy-over-dollar17m-worth-of-hive-witness-votes-available-for-serious-free-speech-witnesses

https://ecency.com/pob/@frot/does-anyone-have-any-good-ideas

People have spent multiple years growing on steem/hive and all that work can get zeroed out by the larger stakeholders and witnesses that are colluding. The last person has also received threats and violence and is being harassed and stalked in real life so it's worse than just losing out on what's on Hive.

There is only no centralized barriers for people that tow the line and say the right things and that's no freedom at all. That's compelled speech and results in Hive mirroring the same problems we have with access journalism elsewhere.

It is a huge problem when we don't address the churn rate on Hive and instead try to promote shilling to onboard people to replace the offboarding. This is tantamount to fraud. I would say Hive is currently much worse than other alternatives but all this could fixed in a few forks if people educated themselves on the issues and rallied instead of just trying to find new marks for the current predatory system or hand waving the problems with platitudes like "be consistent" which while on their face aren't bad ideas but historically have mixed results.



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I've seen a couple of those posts already and agree with you on whale abuse. It's a lot better now than it used to be but we are still too top heavy where a few users can wipe out the votes of all the others. Decentralization will take time and it wont be easy.

People in a position of power, rarely like to let that power go. In the past i have seen hundreds of positive users leave due to voting harassment, some by popular witnesses and large stakeholders who should be smarter than that.

It is a huge problem when we don't address the churn rate on Hive and instead try to promote shilling to onboard people to replace the offboarding.

Personally, I am leaning more towards the concept of second layer tokens providing the voting rewards with hive itself just needed for staking, resource credits and voting with curation taken out of the equation. A lot of the people who left would never have done so if HP wasn't used as a weapon against them. HP would instead be staked and new hive minted payed out as interest for staking rather than curation with the tribes being used for creation rewards and if people want hive can trade for it on the hive based markets.

I will read through those other post and get myself more educated on what is happening for others on the chain.

We do need changes before trying to bring in a lot more people as the same old issues have never left the eco-system.

There is only no centralized barriers for people that tow the line and say the right things and that's no freedom at all. That's compelled speech and results in Hive mirroring the same problems we have with access journalism elsewhere.

This is another issues that is fixed by building a separate interface onto hive to show any content that you want. The content is always going to be there but again rewards distribution causes so much of the conflict among our community that we need something different.

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