Is it 'Sharing Is Caring' or is it 'Caring Is Sharing'?

What I'm about to present to you people is not something that should be shared externally.

The term 'sharing' in this article isn't about allowing someone to temporarily use your property.  I'm writing about 'sharing' content.


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So

You managed to onboard another content creator.

Congratulations.

Have you noticed how the stage is getting fuller and fuller?  New acts are stepping on, as some acts get attention, while other acts are dropping off the edge kind of like this:

Ever wonder why yourself and several others seem to go completely unnoticed?  And at some point (based on what I've witnessed over the years), you're thinking or noticing other disgruntled members being all like, "WTF!  This platform is broken!"

Yet the platform, which as a word is synonymous with 'stage', works perfectly fine.  Look at me!  I'm on stage!  Mission complete!

There's literally nothing else this platform needs to do in order to be a platform or, stage.  What you do on stage or, what you decided to use the platform for, is all that actually matters.  It's all on you, kid.

So what's the problem?

Turn up the lights and look around.

There are millions of seats surrounding you.  Notice how most of them are empty?

That's right!  All these successful onboarding attempts placing acts on stage and somehow we managed to forget the most important part!

Consumers!

"Hooray!"  Says that one guy in the corner...

Meanwhile, as I write this, elsewhere on the internet millions of instances of actual content are on display, and billions of consumers are lapping this shit up.

New Youtube video came out today!  Almost instantly, within a day, we see 100k views and several thousand comments.  I've never been one to yell at the TV but these days we call that 'engagement' and people love doing it.

So we have millions of people right now as you're reading this sentence; writing sentences somewhere else for free!

And not one of those people knows they can actually be rewarded for that behavior.  Hundreds of millions of dollars are also exchanging hands, between content consumer and content creator, with a middleman taking a hefty percentage and ripping everyone off from all directions.

Hive's current business model, with improvements on the way, offers hundreds of millions of people a better deal than some of the richest corporations in the world can offer.  Not bad for a virtual nobody.

One could spend all day yapping about content they consumed, as they do, and stand a chance of earning a little bit.  One could achieve their goal of supporting or tipping or donating to a content creator, as they do, without that money leaving their wallet since they staked their funds instead.  Consumers are not only supporting those who entertain or inform.  Their money also goes to ensuring the stage never collapses or goes out of business.


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Read between the lines.

But I digress...

This article isn't supposed to be about how this community has been overlooking the obvious and how incredibly disruptive Hive's business model can be when used as a tool and combined with an individual who knows how to use it.  Nor is this about the billions of dollars that could most likely be entering Hive's ecosystem once this potential is fully realized.

It's about utilizing instances of actual content as free marketing instead of spending money on it.

The term 'sharing' is actually just a fancy way of making content consumers worldwide double as content distributors.

It used to cost ridiculous amounts of money to place an instance of content, like a newspaper, inside many homes.  So expensive they'd hire children in order to cut costs.  These days all they have to do is get you politically charged somehow, and within seconds without even reading the full article, you're already sharing it on social media, earning 'likes' and good job buttons like a bunch of kindergarteners.

The professionals on their fancy centralized content platforms can't even function without society being so generous these days with their time and energy.

I don't go on Facebook or Twitter to consume content directly.  I'm offered headlines and links to content platforms.  PeakD is a content platform that runs on Hive.  Based on what I'm seeing, Twitter would be one of the more popular distribution tools people use around here.

But unfortunately, without a horde of genuine dedicated consumers actively engaging and sharing our works, the potential reach is spread incredibly thin.  Sure people are sharing links to their own content to an outside following that's almost identical to their inside following but that's just a fancy way of going in circles and listening to yourself bounce off the walls of an echo chamber.

My friends, back in the day, when Facebook was new and going mobile (since they didn't know how to use computers or internet) found out about Youtube.

"How did they find out?"

Oh I thought you'd never ask isn't this exciting.  Well I just started sharing articles and videos about Youtube and the technology and how they managed to place moving pixels in front of your eyes and how someday they could get paid to produce content there and how it was going to be the cable TV killer and I told them to invest their money in it every fucking day for five years.

Just kidding!

I just shared an instance of actual content that had literally nothing to do with Youtube.

People loved that and became interested in Youtube.

Simple!

I didn't even realize at the time, myself and the millions of other content consumers sharing content in this fashion would all be contributing to the success of something like a platform like Youtube.  We were simply having fun and 'sharing' that joy with other people.

Now that I'm balls deep being a content creator all while studying this industry instead of just 'post content get paid', things are starting to make a lot more sense.

Common sense helps, too.

Some people might look at my three previous posts and think, "This guy is just fucking around and wasting our time.  Why isn't he talking about Hive every day or writing generic brand information nobody asked for."

The reality is I'm trying really hard to create my own unique form of entertainment, just like any other professional in this industry, and a lot of people come to enjoy the show.  It's designed for the consumers of the world to enjoy, not act as just some placeholder to collect rewards.  It's designed to appeal to people on the outside as well as the inside, but today I'm taking a break to talk to you folks on the inside.  Which is why I said at the start this shouldn't be shared to the outside.

In my early days sometimes I'd earn well under a dollar per piece, but I also had a large following on Stumbleupon.  So I'd make some entertaining content that maybe got overlooked by the tiny local consumer base because I wasn't preaching to the choir, so I'd earn a few cents, but it's showing 1000 views.

Each instance of actual content circulating on the outside gave me a new reader and doubled as free advertising for the entire platform.  My work drove thousands upon thousands of new eyes to this platform in the early days.  One of the 'advertisements' for the platform was a story about a nutcase who was convinced a washed up and on drugs version of Elmo was his father.  Or another story about how I worked with a guy named Fuk.  I guess people like it.  I can't control these things.

Then Stumbleupon shut down, I lost the following of thousands (which can NEVER happen on Hive) along with losing quick easy access to a solid consumer base; felt slightly devastated and realized now I could only depend on consumers going out of their way to share my work.

But we don't have those here.  Some people won't even look at a post if it earns more than theirs.  Consumers hear about this place from all you people and instead of being consumers they go try creating content hoping to get rich, then leave feeling like failures which they're not, while not realizing they could earn way more just being themselves and enjoying the show.

You look at a platform like PeakD, and they don't even make the 'share to social media' options obvious.  It's hidden behind a button that brings up a menu I assume most don't click.  Whereas everywhere else those share options are made obvious because they know consumers use it and drive traffic to their platforms, free of charge.

The Kicker

If those exposed to ACTUAL CONTENT located exclusively on this platform (which will be several platforms on Hive by the time I'm done with this and they all benefit from this info) were greeted with a message stating consumer habits like commenting and upvoting were rewarded behaviors around here, you'd have people lined up around the block trying to get in.

1000 consumers with a vote worth a penny is way more valuable than one consumer with a vote worth ten bucks.

Once they're in, then they're exposed to everything else on chain, and bring their money with them.  With no mention of Hive, at all, a market of potential investors is knocking on the door.

One exclusive piece of content going viral because it's entertaining so people shared it to people who shared it who then in turn shared it to people who shared it makes all your marketing and onboarding attempts look like child's play.

Simply pick any one content platform website you frequent and consider how you found out about it, if you have trouble believing me.  Was it an advertisement about that website or was it a link shared on social media that didn't even mention the platform?

I'm not trying to change the world here.  Just offering you folks some food for thought.  There is only one thing that frustrates me about this platform and that is the general lack of interest in attracting consumers and all the benefits that come with having them around.

I try my best, but I alone can only do so much.

If you see some solid content out there you think others are going to like, share it.

And don't be afraid to tell folks they can be rewarded for their consumption habits here.

Thanks.

Have a nice day.

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Sharing is Caring and Caring should be Shared. Exceptional Post, keep it up 😊👍🙏

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Thanks! But pay attention to how this kind of content is boring compared to my previous work.

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Even your "boring" content is entertaining, something in the way you write 😆

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I like to read you but I get tired in the middle. To long to my shallow taste

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I came to steem to consume. My wife's friend told her about it, she looked at it and then told me a month later about it and how there were a lot of free stories to read. It was great for awhile reading the stories, then I ran afoul of a foul beast, and one of the authors I followed ran afoul of a jealous beast, and then the whole system was crapped on by a setting sun.

Then out of the mayhem and destruction a few people rose up, they gathered more people, and now I am happily consuming content again, and reading a little bit and looking at some cool pictures from around the world,

I am still having fun consuming the content presented, and finding new things I like such as some of the software composed music. I feel like Number 5 - "More Content".

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I've always enjoyed the variety here. I like how I'm in charge as well, instead of some algorithm feeding more and molding my mind into something it wants me to be. And the freedom to do whatever the hell I want producing content is just brilliant.

P.S. Looks like you doubled down on your comment here. Might want to delete the other one.

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I think I got caught in some testing for HF25 bleed-over issues.

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I've been meaning to get involved with that testing stuff but instead I've been helping my parents with their yard and garden when I can get out there.

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There have been a few helping, I don't know how much of a help I am, but I did try a couple post one hive.blog and one peakd, and of course my typical commenting. I even did some est voting. I think HF 25 is going to be a good HF as long as they stop trying to add last minute things.

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I think the plan is set along with the date now so just testing to go. We'll see. But I know those changes are going to be great for the consumer willing to engage. As a content creator here with skin in the game, I can easily sit here and build up the value of my consumer base, which cycles back my way. Sometimes the comment section under my posts is more fun than the posts.

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Honestly? The Hive blockchain need much more people like you. Nowadays there are many content creators, but there are only a few content consumers.
You are my guest for a !PIZZA.

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I find a lot of things to do on Hive and lots of good content, good being things I like and not necessarily things a bunch of lemming voters like. I good find stuff on youtube, but why support a system that might ban block or remove people I found and whose content I liked. Facebook and a lot of others the same thing. They get rich, I lose stuff that interested me, and am made into a sheep to follow who they tell me to follow. My wife tells me they even force people and content into your likes and follows, Hive allows me to choose what I like, this is a perfect consumer system, at least for me it is.

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Thanks, been a few glitches today for me, votes not taking and other issues. Testing bleed-over maybe.

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P R E A C H ! ! !

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How, in the actual fuck, did you manage a -2 rep?

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LOL

It's a typo.
@blocktrades is working on a fix.

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Are you sure it's not because you were going around annoying people?

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I was never challenged with the FACTS i used in my "annoyance tirade" but what was revealed is that people here believe reputation, time on chain, or money is what determines fact or fiction. Or worse, that you aren't even allowed to be critical unless you meet certain levels.

LUDICROUS.

Which is why i found this post of yours very refreshing. You're really reiterating many of the points I've been making.

Well there's something interesting here in your post though. In the comments. Do you see any of the 'big shots' adding their opinions or even confirming that they read your somewhat critical view. Hardly.

It's only good for an upvote.
Which serves their interest more.

Because you produced the content so that the 'almighty automated' can give out that "reward".

The story of Hive.
Content creators aren't important. The important part is that there's a workforce creating. So the rest can have something to blindly "curate" on. Obviously I find your content quality, as many others do too but when the Hive Trending looks almost fully Spanish. Then it's clear the workforce on Hive is the poor. While others kick back in discord and make money off their backs.

That's another point I made.
To who do you market that?
Obviously to Spanish audiences but then not many others will see it as content they want to consume.

So imo man. You're speaking complete truth on this post but it doesn't look like many here have eyes that wide open. That dream for Hive to be a successful platform where it retains all that come here. Down to the consumer. Is likely always going to be a hopeful dream.

Anyway it's early days.
Maybe blocktrades will get this system up to scratch in the future with some allnightlong hard forking.

P.S: he told me that I'm really at level 200! He also promised he would call... that bastard used me for my body!

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Well. It's all in the delivery. Your attitude stinks but I don't really care. That's something you have to live with, right.

Maybe more will read this. Maybe they'll have something to say. Who's knows. It's Sunday, I expected it to be a slow day. Whatever happens, happens.

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Well identities on Hive aren't necessarily a representation of our realworld identities. As I said this was an experiment.

How does a community that claims 'community is the strength' respond to a newbie that is critical of system flaws.

Anyway I achieved my goals on a few fronts. Making friends was not one of them so that's not something I need to live with.

Again though I think your view of this system is refreshing. I agree with many of your proposals of how Hive can flourish so that's why I asked on another comment if you're working to implement them.

Since imo, a critical flaw here is that coders get paid well to do very little. All the while.. Hive bleeds users.

There might come a time when those coders finally create a decent system but by then who might still be here? Venezuela yes.. but who else.

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You might think you accomplished something but it wasn't hard to pick up on the fact you're only posing as a noob. Just sayin'.

Hive bleeds users for several reasons. But I can't get into all that right now.

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He is just an idiot that milked leo and used at least half of his votes on himself and alts. And now that he is ostracized (from Leo and hive) he suddenly found out that LEO and Hive actually suck balls. But LEO was awesome for the the first two years. Suddenly, with all the new developments it sucks balls. Makes sense.

Of course steemit under Justin is awesome, he still makes a killing after all there for shitposting 4-5 times a day shit that an ai content generator can. (or some poor soul in a third world country for 5 bucks)

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Hmmm. Interesting. Does it have a real name I would know?

Psst. LEO was never awesome. It stripped most of the fun out of this place, converting it into a boring crypto forum, chasing several folks away. Just sayin'. More accurate to say it was awesome for, some.

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Jondoe, jrcornel were two of his alts.

Psst. LEO was never awesome. It stripped most of the fun out of this place, converting it into a boring crypto forum, chasing several folks away. Just sayin'. More accurate to say it was awesome for, some.

That is true to an extent. But you can't blame Leo for building when others were just content witb paying the hive tribe fee, buying a domain name and that's it :)

Thankfully it seems others tribes now seem to take it a step further, like pob and cinetv.io

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Oh. That guy.

And it's cool LEO built stuff. The content took over though and it's really shitty content. Not all, of course, just in general. Nobody wants to listen to folks obsess over the same shit day in and day out, except for the rest of the echo chamber I guess. That's what happens in social media though, when groups form.

Some of these tribes have been miserable failures. I won't spend much money on them until I see a product that takes its platform seriously and offers something unique. STEM has been good at keeping it real but I rarely browse it. That cinetv would be cool but being shafted out of the airdrop and having to buy in kinda pissed me off. I can still support the posts with Hive when I like them. POB, well, all it does it talk about itself, so far, in general. Would be nice if there was some good content easily accessible. But I said here in another comment, people use multiple tags. The same boring LEO post is on POB and vice versa as well as several other tribes. People treat them like content dumping grounds so it's just a consumer's nightmare. Initially these communities were supposed to make browsing content easier. So that idea kind of got thrown out the window. But I'm not a doom and gloomer. I just think the situation can improve.

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Well be the change you want, use proofofbrain to publish your content. What's the worst that can happen ? Earn more? :D

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I used the tag. I don't need to chase tokens though. Thought it might help with visibility. No way of knowing if it did. Slow day but I guess it's a holiday weekend for some.

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Its been holiday weekend the last 3 months for me :D ❤️ 🚀

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lol I'm not even jr.corn-rows hahaha i just trolled trumpman into thinking that. He got triggered by it.

Btw funny he was seeking your approval on driving me away but instead got some HARD TRUTH on LEO.

That's why I like you man. You're not playing the whole "jerk me off tell me I'm awesome" crap that so many are here.

Either way... Hive is fun. And funny. You're definitely right that too many here take it too serious.

The reason I bashed Leo was because too many low level people got bamboozled and then Leo team weren't communicating. Only select few in discord are up on things. The rest got treated like fools only good for their money.

I'm not trying to be the hero either but I spoke up because I knew what was happening and didn't care who found it ANNOYING. As i said I achieved my goals because there's now open discussion about Leo and many low level people feel like they're listened to. By other members at least.

Leo team however are still on a delusional path of yield funny farming thinking magically money is going to find their defi clone of a clone somehow superior to the other 1000s of clones.

Anyway I'm over this thing now.
Hi @trumpman it's me..
JR Corn-on-a-cob! lol

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Even if you are not, you still spread bs and lies :)

Have a nice day douche ☺️

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lol it's all bullshit and lies man.
Only thing that matters is who buys into it.

Poor fools got tricked into buying into cubdefi when by yours own words (many others and even leo team) it wasn't ready to function properly.

See low level crypto heads think "oh I trust leo.. here's my few pennies." but intelligent crypto people see leo as simply riding the nuts of other developers and not really providing a product of their own that has sustainability.

Leo is... a tribe on hive.
tried to ride uniswap.
trying to ride binance chain.
by cloning gooses.
hoping to ride CAKE.
pretending people will use their limited bridge.
yet looking to then ride thorchain bridge.

that doesn't say "competent developers" that says the opposite. Leo essentially needs other development/developers in order to evolve.

That's called a parasite.

Leo was once wholesome before the defi move. but now it's only focused on yields, fees and hopes. and then clinging onto shilling. backed by you and the many other "whales".

It's the story of all projects here though. GET THE POOR FUCKERS TO DO THE HARD WORK. even speaknetwork does the same approach.

Anyway everyone is free to exploit who they want.. but as I said intelligent heads in crypto then don't put big money into those things. Hence why Hive after all this time goes nowhere.

It is what it is.
Make your small bags.

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But I made clear I wasn't trying to do it to fool people into thinking I'm a noob. Only to see the treatment towards an informed noob. Clearly that's where the issue exists. That the treatment towards a "corner noob" was:

You need to have money, or time on the chain to be critical... even if what you're saying is true. STAY IN YOUR LANE NOOB.

That's a major reason so many users just leave because the established "big" identities then self appoint themselves as the authority that calls the shots on who can and can't do what.

Take Hivewatchers for example. A system claiming to be about good but actually driving away users due to their dictatorial method of policing.

Anyway if you feel like getting back to that discussion about the issues that need correcting for Hive to flourish, you should make a post and see what people say.

If you're trying to convince me that my behavior needs correcting though then that's a pointless discussion.

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Oh. So this is a science experiment having to do with informed noobs.

I can't believe I missed that important detail. Yet I still don't care.

You're openly admitting you're only fucking with people here.

So thinking that there's something a little bit peculiar about your behavior should only come natural to me, correct?

I don't give a fuck who you are. But you openly admitting you're acting like someone or something you're not or — in other words — fucking with people, well, that only means we were done talking a long time ago.

If you're trying to convince me that my behavior needs correcting though then that's a pointless discussion.

See. I can be reasonable, too. And if you fail to understand the reasoning then let me put it this way:

I simply don't feel like being fucked with today.

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lol that's a strange response when the "experiment" had concluded and the conversation between you and I was not part of it so it's odd that you would place yourself as VICTIM like that.

Anyway it's the internet.
Freedom to be whatever is the essence.

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Hive's current business model, with improvements on the way, offers hundreds of millions of people a better deal than some of the richest corporations in the world can offer. Not bad for a virtual nobody.

I really believe that this is something that more people should know or be talking about.

There is only one thing that frustrates me about this platform and that is the general lack of interest in attracting consumers and all the benefits that come with having them around.

Agree with this, but now there is some marketing with the proposal of lordbutterfly i guess that this is the way, how would you do it?, imo sharing the content in twitter or facebook hasn't made many difference until now. (lordbutterfly commented on his post that facebook adds were having some successful results)

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The business is tough for people to wrap their heads around because it's new. Showing it off, in action, is so much easier.

And I appreciate those 'official' marketing efforts, even supported the proposal. There are many ways. He's doing one, I'm pointing out another. No need for one way and not the other. Even word of mouth on the streets is cool.

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Even word of mouth on the streets is cool.

I've tried this with my family and some friends, without any success, that's quite frustrating but I guess that I'm not an influencer even in my close relationships 😅.

Blockchain and crypto has a lot of bad reputation and the goverments are doing it well frightening people, you can say them that this should be the next revolution, or you simply say them that you can earn just commenting, no argument seem to convince them. Enough with my sad story.

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Even something going viral is no easy feat. The chances are slim to none though if the context of the content only makes sense to those within these walls. And yes, crypto has a bad reputation among those not involved, almost by default. But everyone understands entertainment/information/whatever. Giving the consumer hands on experience using blockchain and crypto by offering them something they're familiar with makes them more comfortable, rather than bombarding them with sales pitch, technical mumbo jumbo, and promises that sound like you're selling jars full of air instead of just jars.

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I only vaguely try to attract other creators (basically I mention it to them where it seems relevant, however the ones that are interested in nfts invariably end up going off with their other friends to other nft sites, guess it helps that said other friends are actually doing nfts unlike me who just knows they exist and has a very vague idea how they work). Hive is listed first on my blog in preferred methods of support if people feel inclined to throw money at me but in the end is not that helpful as here is actually where I get most anything.

I’m generally able to circumvent “crypto is a scam” because you don’t actually need to buy anything to start (though if you’re a hardcore commenter the RC limits are frustrating as hell, wish there were RC delegations but I have previously delegated hp to newly joined artists so they could do stuff), “it’s too complicated/confusing/intimidating” is much harder to get around.

If you’re sharing links from here have you noticed less interaction on those posts? I’ve heard rumblings that people that were sharing links from hive were mysteriously getting less interactions on those posts than other ones on Facebook. I don’t know if that’s still the case though.

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I haven't been paying attention to the NFT scene. I see some folks here post a link to a platform on the outside, but I don't own any of those tokens and I'm not going to go through the hassle of getting any. Much easier to purchase here or simply upvote the post if it's an actual post and not an advertisement (pet peeve of mine, story for another day).

The RC thing is a bit frustrating and I've delegated as well but often those folks show up to create content, then vanish. Not even leaving comments anywhere. Just gone. So that can be frustrating but you roll with the punches and help when you can right.

As for sharing. I don't even have a twitter account. If I fired one up, you folks would probably be my following so that's not going to extend reach much. Far more productive if consumers share my work. I've not had any problems on Facebook sharing my content but that isn't a large group, mostly just friends and family and I barely use it. Had the Stumbleupon thing going for me, and that was a consumer's browsing tool. It moved content like nothing. Once that was gone I just focused on building a following here. Several of those followers were from steem, aren't even active any more, and wouldn't even know Hive exists.

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With nft the art is basically the token.

I don’t have Twitter either 😅 think it’s only deviantart I have left that can be considered mainstream social media.

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Just seems like a lot of folks are arguing on Twitter. Politically charged. A lot of manipulation. Just doesn't seem like a place I'd fit in.

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There's art scenes in there somewhere. Guess it depends where you pay attention :)

Admittedly most of what I've seen on there has been politics but that's mainly because the people I know that use Twitter are into that kind of thing.

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Oh yes, you've said it just right, just good. Finger lickin' good post. What I think that it is important to realize is that people are such fickle creatures and as much as we would like to delude ourselves that we are so rational, we are not. Successful campaigns stick to the reptilian brain, to that part of us that will just madly click on something that we like, regardless of the pay off. We see it all around us: bad stuff marketed very good goes very well. I wonder if someone would think of paying celebrities to use Hive what would happen. Would it be the same with a cheap lipstick made somewhere on a ship which once branded high end would be everything a girl desires? The masses follow the very few who know how to control a trend. I believe that trends can emerge and in the same time be controlled. Of course, it must all seem natural.

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If a big celeb type showed up, their status means very little. But they can easily build a community of their own fanbase around them and make the platform work for them. There are some here and now with established markets on the outside, they post, and don't even see a comment. That's simply because only a teensy tiny fraction of the existing consumer base here is a fan of theirs. Several have come and gone, thinking the platform is broken, not realizing all they had to do was bring their consumers over and offer them the perks that come standard with this operation. Centralized media holds their hand and does a lot for them. Decentralized media, you're free to build your own business, your way. And that's what we have here.

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Decentralization gives a lot of freedom which comes with the responsibility to create and manage everything. I think it is never about the place as much as it is about the person. If a celebrity has the know how for marketing themselves, they can pull it off anywhere. In the same time a normal average Joe person can become something more as long as they show off personality, involvement and a story. People who have the courage to share an amazing story can gather a big fan base. It is all relative as the story can mean something for someone or nothing for somebody else. I am a personal fan of people with an amazing life story who find the courage to share. I think there are many here with extraordinary stories, but perhaps not so many have the courage to share. I know I personally have this dilemma and I think that this is what could make a difference on a platform : the stories being told, the adversities that made someone who they are. At least this is what I am being drawn to as I faced adversity myself.

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People have the courage to share their social media persona. Not so much their actual lives. A few selfies and a quick tidbit about the day's events isn't the type of content that spreads, since that's pretty much what everyone on something like Facebook does. That's a social media post. Status updates and selfies don't go viral. That's not really meant for consumption, more like expression. Getting paid in 'likes' makes sense for that style of content. People are free to use the platform however they see fit though so I certainly won't complain when I see it here. It is kind of silly some actually do expect to earn a lot posting that way. By design it's meant for small audiences though.

But there are some really good content creators here who would do great things for the platform if the seats weren't empty. They're busy posting day after day colleting those tokens. The eyes are way more important.

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Oh the culture of selfies..... Don't get me started on that. So many do not even look like their real version of themselves in those photos. It's funny and sad in the same time.
P. S. Happy kid's day for your inner kid! 🥳🥳

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Yeah those filters never seem to do a good job of removing the spots on the mirror and the toilet in the background.

I like some of the artsy shit and actual self portraits people sometimes do to themselves. Some of you ladies paint yourselves up or make the lighting all fancy. That's a bit different. Or when someone includes themselves in an image, but the photo is more about the scenery that surrounds them. That stuff can't be classified as a selfie. Or maybe I just like art more than people... LOL

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Art and people looks awesome. The toilet in the background always looks hilarious. Or the carpet. There was a time when all girls liked to use the carpet as a background oh my.... Plain jane backgrounds look odd => sexy pose in the kitchen with a sink of unwashed dishes on the side🙈. I like art. Sometimes more than anything else.

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I get a kick out of some my friends. Day off, with a beer, kicking back, looking like slobs, relaxing, take a selfie and brag. Hilarious. But my bros aren't trying to make money off that shit. They already made their money for the week.

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Hahaha it is funny indeed, I guess some people like it in their comfort zone way too much or don't find the energy to make use of their spare time in a useful way

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You look at a platform like PeakD, and they don't even make the 'share to social media' options obvious. It's hidden behind a button that brings up a menu I assume most don't click.

You make some very valid points in your article. There is so much hidden that could be opened up on this platform. It would help some of us who are not as savvy to learn and do more. Thanks.

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They did mention some improvements on the way. And I did see/hear some comments about making things look and feel a little more natural. So we wait.

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Its a dead cert fact. People have to consume, engage and share. The problem half the time is that people only pretend to consume to earn. Sometimes in fact I think that the whole earning setup is flawed. But no one wants to hear that jazz!

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Well. It's like a knife. One can call the knife broken or they can turn it over and start using the sharp side. I can see how some votes serve different purposes. Large whale votes, those individuals are acting more like promoters. So they position an act in front of eyes, and get paid, just like agents or promoters do in life. So that's reasonable. Reach the trending page. Progress basically stalls because of lack of consumers. With these changes, getting rid of that stupid five minute window, maybe now once folks manage to climb their way up, that visibility will actually mean something more, attract more eyes, then maybe things will spread out easier, hopefully, once it's more appealing to actually be a consumer.

And of course you and I have both, for nearly five years now, have talked about the annoying inward facing content. It's such an odd occurrence, yet common. Even when a new community springs up, rather than creating content, it's just post after post about how great their community or token is, with a few instances of actual content mixed in. So many pretend to be unique, yet the contributors use multiple community tags for the sole purpose of maximizing rewards, so in reality, most communities are nearly identical. So that's kind of weird. Especially considering the fact one could make an entire community go viral if it was something great, unique, and appealed to the outside. Without consumers, that won't happen. I don't even see those communities try to attract consumers. They just ask for more content creators every time and fill up those shelves for nobody to browse. It's so weird.

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I do have high hopes for the getting rid of the five minute vote window as getting more organically voted content. It should or at least has the potential to do that.

I think one of the big problems related to what you say above is that fact that payouts and autovotes encourage people to post every day. Every single day. Jsut to pull in the rewards. Very few people can maintain good content every day. We have both done it and know it is hard and I am not saying my content has ever been perfect but I have never resorted to the announcement about announcement posts or the actifit posts or the random shit posts about fucking nothing that people will put up to get their daily allocation of the rewards pool. I am not necessarily saying its bad but I have heard people say they are putting up a post just to collect their autovotes.

It dilutes the content when people are rattling out any old content just to collect. And all those content creators they are asking for see what they think is required to hit the jackpot and then they join in, posting every day. This hardfork is gonna be awesome or Why bitcoin is only just beginning to go up/down or why community x is awesome

Ah, same old same old. I better stop before I go full on rant, lol :O)

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LOL! I don't really want to go in the direction of full on rant either. Just kind of chilling, talking business.

I did make a brief statement in my post here saying my content isn't just some placeholder for rewards. The daily grind I used to do was really hard on my system, because I wasn't just shooting for the easy money post. Didn't want to ruin my blog by making hard for consumers to flip through the pages. Each page was important to me. And yes, I bombed plenty of times. Sounded better in my head, should have kept it there. But you live and learn. I've been enjoying the one episode per week approach. I'm certain if I was posting daily, people would just get mad, as I'm trying to write jokes or something and make people happy. Was bad enough back in the day people would complain over me earning 20 yet only 10 bucks is mine, for a short post, with art that took all day to make. Now I'm posting full length articles, then browse around and I see people complaining about others and their long form content earning. Dedicated consumer types wouldn't be complaining about who's earning what and why. They want to see their favorites succeed and that's all. Some content creators around here form an unhealthy sense of competition in their minds, and can't stand success if it's not them. That silly attitude has been around since day one as well. Sometimes that negative beacon gets more attention than the success stories around here. Reward disputes lead to talk of removing rewards, which is just bad parenting. If there's two kids fighting over a toy, you take it away, then everyone loses. Simply tell the one asshole kid to shut the fuck up and go to their room. LOL!

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Oh yeah, that's definitely a thing. The envy from content creators to content creators and I think has to come back to the lack of consumers. When everyone creates content they want what the others have! It's like the snake eating it's tail. Or something. :0D

I feel quite relaxed now about posting less. If anything it's probably a blessing because you feel more free.

Still good to stir the pot occasionally!

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It's kind of funny. Some of the folks who could benefit from realizing the platform isn't broken, it's just missing one important element, or learning the fact a quality post is appreciated and could also contribute to extending our reach, free of charge... well... they're not reading this because it's on the trending page and all the content on the trending page is crap and yadda yadda yadda the usual set of excuses.

This is the lowest amount of views and engagement I've received in a long while. And that really helps prove my point about how the entertaining stuff appeals to more people naturally. Way more fun, too.

This post actually stems from a bit of a conversation I was having with a witness here. They were talking about how this inward facing preaching to the choir content about how great Hive is is somewhat pointless within our echo chamber, so that content should be written on other platforms as well to extend reach. I kind of got triggered and was like thinking the reasons those positive about Hive posts aren't helping attract people is because they're boring. All Youtube needed was a gopher yelling Steve! Damn I'm rambling but that's how this works and it should be obvious to more people. Nobody bought Netflix because people shared articles about Netflix. The content on Netflix is what made it a success. Nobody turns on Netflix to listen to people talk about Netflix. Ay yi yi...

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That age old Conundrum. I joke about it all the time. People on hive love to talk about hive. Who gives a fuck? The posts are usually the most inane too. Yet another 'guide' or another cheerleading post. Worse yet is when a new tribe crops up, you go have a look and what do you see, the new tribe is full of how amazing the new tribe is posts

You couldn't make it up.

On YouTube, where I spend a lot of time, I would never watch anything about YouTube itself. I watch music, funnies and guitar stuff. Show me a video where someone is wah wah'ing about the platform and I will switch off. But they don't. And rightfully so.

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I just finished having a look at my results in LEO and POB; looking to see if it was curated/consumed. This is actually my first LEO post since Hive became a thing. Only recently started using POB. Not sure if placing this in those two communities made much of a difference when it comes to views. I checked POB trending and oh boy. Still on a honeymoon with itself. Just noticed Palnet isn't really even paying people anymore; not sure what happened there. Not sure if throwing it in Neoxian's City helps with visibility any more. LEO isn't as full of itself as it used to be but I think the cheerleading hops from one community to the next when it's new. Then they fizzle out, or something new comes along. Still not much incentive to purchase those tokens in order to achieve the goal of supporting content since there's not much actual content to choose from unless you dig. Hive still offers the flexibility and can dig in one place. Can support a little bit of everything and not have to feel tied down.

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Yeah. Palnet did a thing where they got pissed off paying tokens to authors and I think only pay out a pittance to authors now with the lions share going to those who stake the coin. Bit like some people have wanted Hive to do.

Leo is a bit better but it led me to the realisation that with our small audience (ourselves) I think there is only room for one super successful tribe at a time because at the sniff of a new one everyone runs over to that one to start shilling the Tribe X is the best thing ever and I can see mass adoption/price moon incoming LOL!

None of them help with visibility. They are all just a money grab built on the chain

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Oh I see. So then nobody would even be browsing and curating/consuming on Palnet. No point in using that tag. And plus if they're not going to pay a creator for being the reason people look at the site, they can shove it. If Hive did that well, don't matter what shit coin you're on, you're taking a pay cut. So you'd end up with shit Blurt style content. I took a spin there and that was like digging through the bargain bin at a thrift shop.

LEO is kind of funny to me. They pay consumer rewards, of course. But you can just delegate to a bot, don't even have to read that garbage, and still reap the rewards of being a customer. They straight up pay you to not go to their store and consume, so that's helpful LOL. But all these little groups do that. Losing the consumer base is what nearly killed Steem when everyone was selling votes and delegating to stake pools. Even now on Hive, folks are wondering where consumers are, as they create content, while their stake is delegated away, along with their consumer base. It's cute because they think they earn more when they do that because someone said the word 'profit' or 'APR' or whatever. But when you tie it all together, it's just people shooting themselves in the foot, and not being able to figure out where the bullets are coming from.

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The old APR hunt. Unfortunately, a lot of creative folk did leave after the whole STEEM debacle or the ones who stayed got disillusioned by the badness on the platform particularly in its infancy. We saw it with the flagging tranny and there have been others too flagging arty folk. Even the influencers like Cryptofinally, whom I thought was a tool but you cannot gang up on a young woman and repeatedly call her a cunt on a platform touted as social media and expect the public to come flocking in in their droves.

The crypto crowd who were always strong became the ascendant and when LEO came along it just encouraged them like crazy. APR this and APR that.

I look back at some of my old posts sometimes and the interaction was off the scale. Not just for me but on all of the creative posts of others. There was the same old trite crypto shit true but at least people were aware it was shit and moaned about it being on trending. In fact there were multiple discussions about getting those kind of trash posts off there. But that was then!

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Yup. I was one of the artists that dude tried to push away. I wasn't too interested in that behavior and made my position clear. Now we have NFT platforms and hardly any artists. Yet the mainstream loves NFT, while this crypto crowd here was busy calling it a scam. Any time arts and entertainment combines with crypto and the public finds out, they love it. Just look at how many showed up with no interest in crypto but plenty interest in creating content and generating an audience, while the some of crypto crowd here says there's no value in content. ...as some work on developing content platforms. "We want SMTs!" and don't even realize the 'M' stands for fucking media.

I'm glad I wasn't around when that chick got slammed. I know all about it though. She wasn't the only one either. That was sickening for sure. Social media mobs get ugly. People get kicked when they're already down.

And yeah man. I remember when the goal was to create an entertaining atmosphere. Still bugs me when folks show up, create some cool stuff, but then just fade away into the crypto cult, never to entertain again. So many just love to follow that money.

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People love creativity, art, humour, compelling stories. Thats what people look at on the net. They don't run to random sites to pick up half assed commentary on crypto. Its so obvious it hurts. Something viral isn't going to be someone bleating about X coin going parabolic... maybe

"We want SMTs!" and don't even realize the 'M' stands for fucking media.

And that cracks me up :OD

Although, it shows the mind boggling herd mentality of them all that they are still hankering after an airy fairy idea that Ned had all those years ago. It is quite ridiculous.

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Crazy thing is, I see no problem getting this thing on track and succeeding. These issues are minor and just kind of silly. Nothing a bit of duck tape can't fix. I think the madness comes and goes in waves. Get some solid interest from the normal human crowd on the internet and this project no longer has to deal with this boom and bust cycle crypto can't seem to detach itself from. And there are still quite a few around who don't have their heads buried deep inside the ass of the crypto echo chamber, so that's good.

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There are definite upsides. Just got to keep the eye on them!!

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Probably bad timing grumbling about excessive and annoying crypto content as they're going through another mid-pump crisis and trying to act cool about it, while blaming their problems on Elon Musk...

But that's the cool thing about comedy. It literally writes itself.

P.S. If I suddenly die tomorrow, it wasn't suicide.

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It does write itself. The very same folk who were clapping each other on the back for being financial savants are now throwing up in the toilet at the thought of telling their wife she wont be buying no new shoes for a long time... :OD

If it were to happen, I would demand to be put in charge of your case immediately and would leave no stone unturned in my hunt for the perpetrators of the deed!

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Yup. Blame one or two misconstrued tweets from famous personalities. Don't blame and completely ignore the previous months worth of millions upon millions of social media posts across several different platforms all created by the very people talking about how great everything is and how nothing could possibly go wrong.

What's interesting (and I learned this years ago) is if you observe the inflated heads and place the data on a chart, it tells you exactly when to get out. Or you can add the word 'shit' to bull run. Much like a stampede, you can hear the bullshit coming from a mile away, which gives you plenty of time to step aside and stay out of their way.

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Bullshit it is!

I love the fact that everyone is an expert and they all predict amazing things until it goes pear shaped then they think they are being incisive and cutting edge by suggesting it might be bad for a while then at the first hint of an upside go back to saying things will be amazing and new all time highs blah blah

But its Elon Musk's fault :OD

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Well. Elon Musk does kind of say lingering stench in a way. Maybe he's just like, The Best Troll Ever.

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I wanted to read all the comments but i won’t bother only because I can’t wait to reply lol

I’m a marketer. That’s my “job” (it’s in quotes cuz I love what I do and it doesn’t feel like work and it’s my business) i market @ryzeonline and our mastermind group. I FEEL this entire post.
I love Hive. I have been sharing about Hive on my IG and FB and Twitter but I was unaware that I could share content directly on my socials. I will look for the button on my laptop later. Point is...YOU have excellent points.

Jay calls me his “super sharer”. It’s how we started our business. I adored his work and started to share it constantly. I LOVE sharing good shit and i firmly believe that no one needs to spend money to get the word out on what they’re doing including Hive. I’ve brought two new people here by posting selfie’s (Hivefies) of my cleavage on those platforms and telling people about how great it is here and the rewards they can get.

My secret - not so secret - plan is to get as many people here as possible. I even made a post about it in my new community.

I found Hive because a friend of mine wanted to help me get my content seen and help me get rewarded for it. I’m super grateful. I think everyone on those centralized platforms should be over here to see the amazingness of the content some people here make and share.

I for one am thrilled to be here and intend to turn up and share more and more on other platforms!

Thank you for this. I LOVE every single word.

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The comments here today are all over the place. Just talking.

The thing about content. I've been talking to friends and family for years about this project and cryptocurrency in general. 98% are not interested no matter which approach I tried. One share or pass them a link in a message to my content, and suddenly, like nothing, without thinking, they're seeing and holding a crypto project, and enjoying it. Then they start asking the little questions on their own. Just need to get people in the door.

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It's my intention to keep getting people in the door!! I keep sharing and bringing them in. ❤️❤️❤️

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Well therein lies the problem. I've been here for 4 years and 11 months, and in that time I'm not sure I've ever found a piece of content which originated here that I would want to share widely with friends and family, that wasn't about Steem/Hive.

The demand for content here is Hive-centric. You can create content that isn't Hive-centric, but with a small pool of creators and possibly even fewer consumers, curation that prefers platform referential content, what are the chances that the kind of viral content that can reach millions will be created here, discovered here, and shared everywhere else (also without being copied and reposted on another platform)?

Has there ever been a viral Steem/Hive post that wasn't about Steem/Hive? Has there ever been one that even had the potential of going viral if it was discovered?

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Well I dunno. My stuff is exclusive and majority of it has nothing to do with the platform. Mainly entertainment of some kind. As I stated in the post, early on I could gain traction on the outside easily. Not everything I pushed out took off but some were, then they took the view counter away so I couldn't track it any more. Whatever though, I've been here for years doing my own thing. Things are going alright. Would be awesome if people shared but I won't hound people about it. It's up to them.

Exclusives are hard to find here nowadays, yes. People dump their stuff everywhere. I wrote a post awhile back talking about how destructive and irresponsible people are when utilizing decentralized media platforms. It's all taken for granted.

There is and was some great quality work all over this platform. Just have to dig for it and get to know these people. Many don't stick around though for long. Not much consumption going on so I don't blame them.

Recently I came across a new member who posted an intro with a bit of a behind the scenes 'making of' post for some stop motion they created. The Youtube video included with the post had about 10k views when I found it and I'm sure it's past 300k now. I encouraged that member to include a link to their peakd profile in a pinned comment, which happened, so about 250k viewers were at least exposed to it. That post also made the trending page here so that was cool.

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Yeah, StumbleUpon, I remember that site, I also had quite a few followers but I lost interest in it even before it failed ... I am absolutely in favor of sharing good content on other networks FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc... after all, my profile says "content producer and sharer" 😎

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Sharing is caring. And I loved Stumbleupon. Could sit all day hitting that button and browsing random things. Never knowing what was coming next was so much better than suggested content.

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Hmmm, Pinterest maybe? After StumbleUpon has gone, I think I started to pin .... but with a few years passed ... 😎

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I have no clue what they're doing on Pinterest.

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They "Pin" content = sites, services, photos, music, etc... very similar as StumbleUpon ...

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So it's a link sharing platform. One would require a large following for those 'pins' to be consumed though, correct? I've seen the site show up in search results but it was confusing. Just a bunch of shit thrown together was my takeaway.

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Well, whatever you take. When I started, I started collecting paintings, mostly psychedelic, then steampunk style, then I published my kaleidoscopes, in short, you're making a collection of something. But Pinterest is interesting because it is the platform that has the best click-through rate, or, of those who look at something there, many more decide to buy it than on other platforms. That is why there are now a lot of corporations promoting their brands there. And especially fashion, because there are far more women than men. Well, I read that in some analyses a few years ago... I don't know how it is now, but they are obviously doing well, I think.
Since we're debating, I went back to look at my profile after a year or two. Yeah, and I've been collecting infographics... I've been keeping it as a kind of repository. 😎

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Hmmmm. That could be useful. But it requires building a following as well, correct?

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It depends on what you want. if you want to have it as a repository you don't need followers because it's just for your own use, but if you want to make a name or a brand then you have to work on your following and offer your products ... classic marketing ...

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Better off just driving traffic this way. Hopefully some folks start spreading just good quality normal content out like wildfire and it gets picked up and carried. Snowballs into something nice for everyone here. Classic social media distribution.

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Another brilliant piece of writing on a topic dear to me. Hats off to you, good sir.

For consumers it's so insanely simple. This is what they've always done:

  1. Consumer shares a valuable piece of content with others. (Anything from a Budweiser 'Wassssup' commercial, to a killer short story, to a nice rack.)
  2. Consumer 'looks good' and 'gets props' from their network for spreading the good word.
  3. Recipients of the share checkout the content, and immediately become curious about whatever platform the content lives on, elevating the platform's visibility and appeal. Plus they're likely to re-share.

This is what happened with MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. and it can certainly happen for Hive. Content & distribution. Product & marketing. Talent & promoter.

But someone has to start this process. Someone has to share Hive content with their networks. Ideally, many someones.

Personally, I see my role more as the 'talent' as opposed to the 'promoter', and I aim to do it well. Still, can always improve. Perhaps I'll add text/images at the end of my posts encouraging people to share or something.

Anyway, fantastic post. Great food for thought, thank you. 🙏

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Some people won't even look at a post if it earns more than theirs

Damn that's petty

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I commented on this earlier, but I felt like 'tipping' you so I revisited this post to do so, lol. :) 🙏

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Man it's appreciated but not necessary, though sure, I'll keep it. Thanks!

Been spending a bit a time quietly browsing things I missed while being away. I see you had yourself an episode of dealing with people not able to see a difference between content creators and content consumers.

I've been there, plenty of times. Using the word 'consumer' at times around here is like speaking an unknown language.

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My pleasure. :)

And yeah, you've summed it up well. I used the word 'consumer' 13 times in a post ('creator' was used once) and 90+% of the commenters wrote back to me about content-creators. I used the words 'example/approach' 8 times, and a chunk of commenters acted as if I was a dictator enforcing rule upon them under pain-of-death, rather than a dude writing a blog post.

The reading comprehension and attention-span was surreal, lol.

But... it is what it is, and you clearly get it, being the biggest proponent of consumer onboarding I've found here so far.

Using the word 'consumer' at times around here is like speaking an unknown language.

#preach lol. 🙏

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Out of curiosity (since I was gone then come back and suddenly, once again, find myself in this loop talking about something 'consumer' related here) I asked Asher to pull up some data. "How many times have I talked about consumers..."

So yeah, I've heard and seen it all. That's all time, everyone, from both chains, over five years.

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This is amazing and insightful, man. 432 times. That is an epic focus on consumers. Huge respect. Hopefully more and more people are picking up on what you're puttin' down. :)

And I guess 40 mentions of it in my first 3 months here is... at least reasonable? Lol. 🙏

(P.S. Is 'Asher' the same person as @abh12345 ?)

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