LeoFinance Engagement | I Just Sent Out 1400 LEO to Everyone Who Beat Me Last Week

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LeoFinance Engagement has been picking up a lot over the past few weeks. We're seeing thousands of more comments each week than the weeks prior.

A lot of this has to do with the comment engagement league that @abh12345 puts out every week. We've started using that as a metric for competing with each other.

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As you can see, I got crushed last week. It was a slow week for me and 14 people ranked higher than me.

As promised, I am sending out 100 LEO every week to anyone who ranks above me on @abh12345's weekly LeoFinance Engagement League post. Last week, a bunch of people got lucky (but don't expect that to continue this week!).

Engagement is Off the Charts Last Week!

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Engagement on LeoFinance.io has been off the charts recently. Last week we saw 7,000 comments made directly on leofinance.io. Let's aim for 10,000 comments this week!

As @taskmaster4450 has talked about numerous times: engagement is huge for the growth of LeoFinance. Our community is a hardcore community of diamond paws who have endless energy when it comes to building this place.

There is a lot that we can all do to show up each and every day to grow LeoFinance, onboard new users, drive valuable evergreen content, increase engagement, etc.

One of the #1 things we can do is engage on content on LeoFinance.io. I've been making more of an effort lately to engage in the comments on LeoFinance. I think this is a base layer activity that is fundamental to the growth of LeoFinance.

Evergreen Content + Engagement = Exponential Growth for LeoFinance

I've been watching @hitmeasap's content with a close eye as of late. He's been talking at length about the value of creating evergreen content and supercharging it with certain SEO techniques to make content rank higher in the long-term.

This is one of the most undervalued activities we could be doing on LeoFinance.

I would like to challenge everyone on LeoFinance to make more evergreen content. Create content that is outward facing and intended to service an audience outside of LeoFinance and Hive.

For example, create a piece of content that talks about RUNE or LUNA. Talk about another project and then tweet and share that content to that community.

That is yet another fundamental activity to grow LeoFinance.

I'm still working on some more foundational thoughts on how we can increase activity in this evergreen content direction. I think there's a lot of low-hanging fruit here and a lot that we can all do to play a part in this.

My Challenge

My challenge to you this week is to make a minimum of 100 comments and make at least 2 pieces of evergreen, outward-facing content.

Do this, then leave a comment below and tell me about your experience. If you beat me in the engagement league (next post by @abh12345 will be in 3 days), then I'll send you 100 LEO.

I'm also going to create a weekly competition for evergreen content. That is, every week I will send 100 LEO to the top ranking post in terms of external traffic that it generates.

You may notice that some of these posts are actually several months old. That means that authors could literally earn 100 LEO per week on old content that is ranking well.

@hitmeasap may comment here with some ideas on how to make this even better!

Stay engaged and stay evergreen 🦁

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Whoever is directly controlling the V2K told me to kill myself.
They told me if I killed myself now it would save the lives of countless others.
Saying the longer I wait to kill myself the more people will suffer.


They are reckless and should have shown the proper media what they had before taking me hostage for 5 years. I know there are many in prison that dont deserve to be there because of this. Your stay in prison will not be fun @battleaxe and friends. People are going to want you dead when they find out what you did. I hope you die a slow painful death. You sick mother fuckers.

https://peakd.com/gangstalking/@acousticpulses/electronic-terrorism-and-gaslighting--if-you-downvote-this-post-you-are-part-of-the-problem

Its a terrorist act on American soil while some say its not real or Im a mental case. Many know its real. This is an ignored detrimental to humanity domestic and foreign threat. Ask informed soldiers in the American military what their oath is and tell them about the day you asked me why. Nobody has I guess. Maybe someone told ill informed soldiers they cant protect America from military leaders in control with ill intent. How do we protect locked up soldiers from telling the truth?
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Thanks Khal there's a great feeling to receiving 100 Leo form you, I will be aim for a repeating this week with attempts on evergreen content as well.

Many thanks!

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I’m happy to hear that! I want to hand out as much LEO as possible each week because that means I’m setting a bar for engagement and the community has members who are actively shattering that bar and delivering on massive engagement.

Keep it rolling!

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I’m setting a bar for engagement

"A true leader makes an effort to help develop their team's skills so they can reach their full potential. They lead by example and establish strong, trusting relationships to ensure success within the team and for the organization as a whole."

That's pretty accurate.

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Last week we saw 7,000 comments made directly on leofinance.io

Impressive numbers. Trust we will see above 10k this time around. Will also see what I can with pushing more in the engagement side of things. And great challenge from you, working on that

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I was two spots away from 100 Leo. For posterity sake can I have a consolation 100 Leo? Hahaha.

Anyways if you remembered I once told you that you'll be crushed but then, for the benefit of a doubt you've had your hands full.

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This is getting really hot in here.
I am posting more and literally it is what engagement should be.
Beating you guys is another row for me.
I know I will do better this week.
It is possible since I can type faster.
Not sure if I can comment more than I am trying so far.
The engagement is open and I know you are ready to hit top 20 more in the future.

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Type faster, work harder, sleep less

That’s what I’m doing!

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🤣 sleep less? Loool that's gotta take a lot.

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But do you have a better internet connection?

lols

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Lmao I do pride myself on my 1gb upload and download speeds

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How much does that cost you? I'm sitting rather comfortable on 600 down and 50 up for ~$65 per month.

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About $120 per month so we’re pretty close in terms of what we’re getting for the value!

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Yeah, it sounds like it. They can't deliver anything better than what I have today, to my current address.. :/

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It's absolutely getting hot. Some thing I think is that, engagement takes time, throughout last week I only managed to take in as many comments as possible. It can be also exciting can't wait for you to join the challenge

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This is really awesome and a way to buckle up to engage to get to the top. Congrats to the winners, I really appreciate this and keep up the good work.

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I have a feeling there will be much more comments made this week… 😉
Well done all, so great to see such an engagement!
Let’s grow together.

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I also believe the number of comments will increase significantly this week!

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A few more days and we will see… I’m curious to see the numbers.

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You're probably right. I do hope that you'll be able to crush your own numbers from last week at least. That's my only goal week after week. To beat my own numbers.

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That’s such a great goal to have @hitmeasap

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It makes things easier for myself at least. We're all different so others might want to have a set goal to aim for, but that tends to make things more difficult for myself when it comes to engagement.

That makes me more or less count the amount of comments I make, one after another, and that doesn't work. It's better for me to just type some stuff whenever I can and see where things goes. :D

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That’s what I do… type whenever I can and Engage.
I only kept an eye on my stats the 1 of the month to show TM as we were talking about it a bit.
I’m not counting comments… would be to much time consuming. 😎

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I think you're right. Whenever Khal is active he sort of brings hype to the table. Whenever there's hype, people become more active in general. :)

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I’m happy about that! We gotta keep bringing the engagement to a higher level each week. Engagement and outward facing content have become a focus of mine :)

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Engagement and outward facing content have become a focus of mine :)

It shows and it's really awesome to see. You're leading by example while being laser-focused.

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Bribery seems rather effective. Perhaps Khal will have to send out 2000 LEO this week.

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While I truly enjoy the engagement, I also think it is a shame that someone literally has to pay for something that should be normal behaviour on a social platform.

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Awesome! Thanks for that. I am going to head over and power it up right now!

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So, what does it take nowadays to be a leo lion?

Do you have access to the updated numbers?

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It's right in Discord. 15k Leo staked.

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Nice, I'll go look to see what the other levels are.

I know the old school STEEM ones and have kept to those.

Ive been shooting for 5000 LEO becasue that is what makes you a dolphin on that old blockchain (or what made you a dolphin back in 2018)

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5K LEO is my first milestone. My recent growth has been outstanding so I'll reach it rather shortly. Not exactly sure what I'll do when I'm sitting at 5000 though.. Might need to change my approach a bit.

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I'm at work for a few more hours. I'll come back with a better comment later, just wanted to say thanks for the LEO.

I'm also going to create a weekly competition for evergreen content. That is, every week I will send 100 LEO to the top ranking post in terms of external traffic that it generates.

I like the idea, but counting year old content makes it difficult for new content to beat the traffic older content generates due to the current position it has.

I have some input and I'll share my view in a couple of hours.

Love the initiative to reward optimized content.

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Yes let me know!

New content does still hit their normal 7 day window of rewards. I wonder what the dynamic would look like as old content can ebb and flow with new content rewards

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What I meant was that we currently have 2 articles driving ~100 visitors per month while the third top post generates like 40 or something.

Rewarding the top article each week would basically be like giving one of the two authors LEO for several weeks or even months without much competition due to the current rankings.

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And it makes us all want to write for those coveted spots.

Its like writing a book and getting on a bestseller list - worth the salt and tears.

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I can totally understand that, but I honestly don't think it actually works like that. Some people, perhaps like you, might be eager to jump in and compete for the awesome prize, but how are you going to compete with an article that has been pulling in ~100 visitors per month for a year?

That doesn't come easy, especially as it takes something like 3-6 months for Google to actually rank content. Which means that whatever you publish today, won't even stand a chance to compete for the prize until it has been ranked properly.

That being said, if you manage to rank high and claim that sweet top spot, you can continue to earn LEO passively by simply just keeping your content up to date moving forward. It's a tough target to hit though, which is why I personally doubt that it would be "encouraging enough" for most people to start creating optimized content.

I also don't mean to come off like all negative or something like that because I truly love the idea and Khal's goal of rewarding content that will bring organic traffic over time.. But it's really hard to come up with a solid solution. It's not as easy as it might seem.

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We are both harping on different ends of the spectrum.

I know plenty of bloggers who bring in more traffic than we are all bringing in together all by themselves.

You want a way to get more people doing the "right" things. I think that just a handful of us doing those things could carry the weight for a little - then explosions will happen.

My experience on the blockchain has been that learning things that bring tangible results (money in your pocket) are easily learned my more - than things that are intangible (create more money for everyone through organic growth).

But I've been talking the talk for a while, and only walking a little. I'm building over here - let's see if I can get 100 views organic views per month from some chosen articles.

I just need more info.

Like ... where can I see the views on my posts?

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You want a way to get more people doing the "right" things. I think that just a handful of us doing those things could carry the weight for a little - then explosions will happen.

That is very true. I want more people to focus on creating content that I know would be beneficial in terms of growth for everyone. The more optimized content we have, the quicker we would grow. It's that simple.

Also, I am not talking about people becoming some SEO experts or "gurus". I'm talking about doing the most basic things with the content. Like including links to related posts and more importantly, create outward-facing content rather than the inward-facing content.

I don't want to take away the inward-facing content, because we need that. But I would much rather see a ratio closer to 50/50 instead of the, I don't know, 90/10(?) we have.

That's the whole point for me wanting to reward such type of content, so it will encourage people to create it.

My experience on the blockchain has been that learning things that bring tangible results (money in your pocket) are easily learned my more - than things that are intangible (create more money for everyone through organic growth).

That is exactly why I would love to reward optimized content more. That would lead to overall growth, which would benefit everyone, including the creator of the content, short- and long term.

Like ... where can I see the views on my posts?

As views are easy to manipulate, I use tools like ubersuggest for keyword research and to track organic traffic. However, it requires content to be ranked on Google in the first place, which takes several months.

That being said, you could use simpleanalytics to track the amount of page views you get.

https://simpleanalytics.com/leofinance.io?period=year&search=paths%3Ametzli

That link will give you the details for how many page views you've got during the last 365 days for instance. Just note that page views and unique visitors are different, so it doesn't mean that you've got X amount of visitors because you have X amount of page views. It simple means that the page have been viewed X amount of times. So in theory, a page could be viewed by one person multiple times and it would include each view in the counter.

It could give you a good idea of things though. Especially as you can look at the different referrals, and Google or other search engines is definitely the ones we are aiming for.

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That was a very interesting rabbit hole I just went down.

When you say "outward facing content" are you talking about links taht take us away from leo?

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When you say "outward facing content" are you talking about links taht take us away from leo?

Whenever I'm talking about outward-facing content, it's basically content that is being produced to attract outsiders. Meaning, content that seeks/wants/needs attention of people outside of Hive/LeoFinance.

Inward-facing content, is basically the opposite, and also the type of content we have a lot more of, due to the nature of how Hive operates.

An example of outward-facing content would be:

While the majority of the existing users already knows these things, or could easily be aware of them due to the literally hundreds of posts talking about HBD savings rather recently, I made one, optimized post that explains things in a rather easy-to-understand way that people outside of Hive will benefit from.

I target certain keywords in an attempt to get more people to my content, which is good for growth over time, as more people will come across "LeoFinance" or "Hive" and eventually join.

After the recent Ad Revenue change on LeoFinance, this also leads to "individual growth" so to speak, as the Ad Revenue will be split between the token holders. So more traffic also means more Ad Revenue.

If we look at one of my other post:

This is certainly more inward-facing content, as the intention of it is to help existing users to create content that will draw attention and generate organic traffic over time. So, that is basically inward-facing content explaining how to create outward-facing content.

Inward-facing content is good to keep the existing users, help them, motivate them and all those things. So we definitely need inward-facing content, but the ratio today is probably something like 90/10, and if we could bump that to just 80/20 or most preferably, more close to 50/50 we would see an insane growth pace in just a few months due to all the optimized content being ranked.

Also, inward-facing content does naturally not lead to more traffic or more Ad Revenue, as we don't see new traffic to the site. We're just using the traffic that is already in place whenever we create inward-facing content, which is why outward-facing content is crucial for overall growth.

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I think the top ranking content should earn a lot. I see what you’re saying though - we need to ensure that the competition is a fair competition.

That being said, it seems like it would make sense that if you put in the blood, sweat and tears to make something rank high in the long-run, you should get paid for that.

I just wonder if there are other ways. I mentioned the idea above of creating a ranking algorithm.

Another idea: have different prizes for different metrics. I.e.

  1. #1 ranking article for traffic the past week = 100 LEO prize
  2. “Rising Star” article each week is the article that jumped the rankings the fastest = 100 LEO prize
  3. … etc.

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That being said, it seems like it would make sense that if you put in the blood, sweat and tears to make something rank high in the long-run, you should get paid for that.

I totally get your point and I agree. I somewhat answered this in my other comment where I talked about having a limit. Increase that to 5K or 10K LEO, whatever floats your boat, but I do think that having a limit could decrease the potential risk of people trying to cheat their way to glory.

Another idea: have different prizes for different metrics. I.e.

This is a cool idea. The more the merrier, as it would increase the overall competition for those various prizes meaning more organic traffic over time.

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the guy with the white hoodie send leo. Sounds good!

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I only have a black hoodie as seen on my PFP I want moar LEO. If Khal doesn't send some I will just end up buying it...

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They are incentives well spent. The commitment and activity will bring great benefits to the community.
When will the distribution of Leo advertising be launched at Leo Power? Do you have a date in mind?

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No date as of now. It’s on our development rollout and will be released in the sooniverse. As of right now all ad revenue is being pooled though so it’s all building up to the first payment

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I was actually pained that you are sitting ahead of me but it is normal but the week race won't be easy for anyone I will make sure I give you all a test I mean this with all my heart

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It resets every week - so every week you have a chance.

Well, until he changes his mind about the giveaway.

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I wish you the best and hope you will get ahead of him this time.

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I'm actually putting on a fight I know I can win it just for me to put in little more effort that's all and I will surprise everyone

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That's the good thing, we do it to challenge our own selves because we know we can do better but sometimes we just don't put a little more effort.

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Yeah, I won't be surprised if you also make it to top 3 because your pace too is great

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Here on LeoFinance, I think it's quite hard for me to get there. I may if I give up on the other platform that I'm in, but I can't do just that so I'll just enjoy my usual engagement pattern.

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Khal has the potential to be beaten. Just kick it up a bit to see where it goes.

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Yeah, I’m not giving up on this because I believe this is achievable in all way and I just have to push myself a lot little bit

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I think Khal should aim for that 10th place or something for a few more weeks... ;)

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Khal is putting in the work and I don’t think 10th is an option for him

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Haha, I think he is doing great. Upping his own numbers each week will lead to massive competition, hence a lot more engagement.

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Ah.. I just started to take momentum :/
Is this applicable for the next week? :p

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Each week is based on @abh12345’s weekly LeoFinance Engagement post. He publishes it every Friday

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Yeah... But we may not get a 100 Leo each week :D

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He will pay next week.

Go comment and engage.

I have some active posts on how to use the HBD interest rate to reach millionaire status in the next 30 years.

Go tell me what you think ;)

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Khal SLACKIN! and it cost ya lol granted I slacked last week as well haha Awesome though having this as a weekly thing plan on crushing it moving forward 100 leo is solid!

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I was lame this week but my "normal" engagement would have won some leo so that is encouraging. But the good thing is that I don't leave Leo on the table. My curation doesn't drop off.

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I'll make it harder for you with one more comment, thanks!)

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Haha good luck!

I’ve been a commenting machine this week so far. Turning on the printer to go brrr right now

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I'm not looking for luck, but a piano tutor who will teach me how to play four hands with two hands, lol, I hope this helps to tap the keyboard faster)

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A great challenge, time to buckle up my engagement game, let see how this week goes.

Congratulations to all the winners

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Do it! I’d love to send 100 LEO your way this week

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What's your limit? Let's say, in theory that 500 users would beat your numbers.. Would you continue to send 100 LEO week after week? :P

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In theory, I don't have a limit. Although if 500 users beat me I either did something really really wrong or really really right

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Haha yeah, that's a good point and it totally comes down to how you see things. I would look at the bright side of things and take it as you encouraged 500 people to be more active than ever.

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Yeah I have a feeling that if 500 people engage more than me each week, we’ll be seeing some MASSIVE gains on all things LeoVerse. I’ll be happy to put up the dough for that to happen

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This is real and I can see more folks are commenting more.
100 leo is a preferment but the true meaning relay to more engagement and more traffic to Leofinance.
Glad to be around every week to see the final tally.

!BEER

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Just seeing this and I appreciate the opportunity.

I don't like to put more pressure on myself, but I can assure you I'm aiming for the top 5 and that's all. Make sure you rank higher to beat me this time.

Thanks for the Leo. Slowly getting to my goal....

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I'm just hoping to beat my own numbers each week. Having a set goal doesn't work for me, but it's awesome to get that extra LEO from Khal week after week.. :)

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Work as hard as you can, I’m sure you can beat me :)

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Not sure, I might, but I'm not going to focus on that. The only goal I have is to beat my own numbers from last week, and I think I'm already passed that. I won't look though, because that makes me anxious. lol

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Congratulations! I am pretty sure you will get to that rank you aim for. Cheering on ya!

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Pressure makes diamonds!

“ Thanks for the Leo. Slowly getting to my goal....”

Glad to hear it! Keep engaging and I’m sure you’ll crush that goal and be pressured into making a newer and higher one ;)

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be pressured into making a newer and higher one ;)

I will keep that in mind.

All it takes is showing up every day and putting in the work, which is fun as time goes on.

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Show up, show out and try to show me up! That’s all it takes. Haha yeah I’m having a great time with this competition each week - it adds a lot of fun to using the platform for me

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I'm sure we'll have huge numbers coming in for this week's engagement.

Everyone is excited about the challenge and bringing in their A-game.

It will be hard to get you but as long as I'm around the top 5 spots, I'm good.

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I'm also going to create a weekly competition for evergreen content. That is, every week I will send 100 LEO to the top ranking post in terms of external traffic that it generates.

First of all, this is indeed awesome. Like I have said before, optimized content is the most valuable thing for us due to the organic traffic it will generate, but optimized content is still being overlooked or often ignored by the curators. There are various reasons for this to happen, but to see something that is put in place to reward such content is amazing.

According to my understanding of the things you've said Khal, I would probably do things differently. 100 LEO for the top ranking post is totally fine, and even though there is only 1 winner with a prize like that, everyone will be real winners when things takes off.

I am a bit worried for different reasons: The first one is having only 1 prize. I don't mean that you have to have thousands of LEO in total, but I think it would be easier for people to create optimized content if they had "higher chances" of winning the prize, so to speak.

Perhaps extra rewards for the top 5 posts or so? That could potentially mean that the same author wins multiple prizes, but it would also increase the overall chance for people to win something.

Not sure how this would actually work out in reality, but what about 100% upvotes with leo.voter +curators pick on optimized content that has potential to generate traffic over time? - It would require some time reading and looking at things from an "optimized" perspective, to see if the content has potential or not.


Also:

I'm also going to create a weekly competition for evergreen content. That is, every week I will send 100 LEO to the top ranking post in terms of external traffic that it generates.

You may notice that some of these posts are actually several months old. That means that authors could literally earn 100 LEO per week on old content that is ranking well.

While I truly love the idea, I shared my thoughts in a comment previously:

Rewarding the top article each week would basically be like giving one of the two authors LEO for several weeks or even months without much competition due to the current rankings.

However, you said "weekly competition for evergreen content" which could mean that this will be on-going for a long, long time. If you are willing to put in those extra LEO to reward content that pulls in the most organic traffic, and your intention is to do that for a long period of time, it would definitely inspire and encourage people to produce optimized content.

The top 2 authors would literally be handed hundreds if not thousands of LEOs for content they wrote a long time ago though, before other content could compete in terms of traffic.. But that would most certainly inspire people to make optimized content as they would see how easy it is to earn 100% passive LEO rewards for something they make once.

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New content doesn't bring in organic traffic, which is why content that has already been ranked would continue to sit on top of things until other content was ranked properly. That would probably take anything between 3-6 months.

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This could be solved by the last question I posed to you in my comment above. Let me know what you think.

A secondary idea would be to have some sort of “depreciation” of “content ranking” that we give a piece.

It seems that if this became a problem, we’d need some sort of ranking algorithm that accounted for it.

Otherwise, if it’s fixed in 3 months anyways because 100 more authors start creating optimized content, maybe its a moot point

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Haven't thought about this, but the first thing that comes to mind is having a limit of the prizes.

Like: X amount of LEO is the absolute most you can generate for one article. That way, people will have to produce more optimized content as well, to be able to earn this sweet and juicy passive LEO rewards.

Judging by your previous comment, it sounds like you'd be fine with rewarding the same authors thousands of LEO if that content is generating the most traffic, so what about having a limit of say 2K LEO or something per article.

I feel that it would bring more competition as well, because even if you have the most awesome content you've ever seen and it brings in billions of visitors, you'd still need to come up with more optimized content to continue to earn those extra LEO once you've reached your limit so to speak.

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“ Perhaps extra rewards for the top 5 posts or so? That could potentially mean that the same author wins multiple prizes, but it would also increase the overall chance for people to win something.”

I think increasing it to 5 posts that get rewarded is a great idea.

“ Not sure how this would actually work out in reality, but what about 100% upvotes with leo.voter”

I would love it if we could do this but the one issue with this is that the optimized content has likely already left the voting window. We could upvote one of their newer posts with 100% but I feel like that logistically defeats the purpose which is why I went with the liquid LEO rewards each week because then we don’t have to worry about voting windows.

“Which could mean that this will be on-going for a long, long time”

That is absolutely right. My goal would be to do this for the foreseeable future (perhaps in perpetuity, if it goes well).

Yes, I agree it could cause some authors to get thousands of LEO. Though that would mean that their content is pulling in massive traffic for the site which likely outweighs the actual LEO they’re receiving (in terms of LeoFinance gaining more value from that traffic than the 100 LEO each week is worth).

I wonder if we can create some sort of ranking variables? I.e. newer content that pulls in traffic is weighted more heavily than older content that pulls in the same amount of traffic?

Some sort of x * y variable on time vs. traffic per week.

Thoughts?

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I think increasing it to 5 posts that get rewarded is a great idea.

Awesome. That sure definitely encourage more people to create posts.

I would love it if we could do this but the one issue with this is that the optimized content has likely already left the voting window. We could upvote one of their newer posts with 100% but I feel like that logistically defeats the purpose which is why I went with the liquid LEO rewards each week because then we don’t have to worry about voting windows.

I can totally understand your point. What I meant was if we would go the route of rewarding content that has "real potential to bring organic traffic" rather than rewarding content for the organic traffic it already brings.

Yes, I agree it could cause some authors to get thousands of LEO. Though that would mean that their content is pulling in massive traffic for the site which likely outweighs the actual LEO they’re receiving (in terms of LeoFinance gaining more value from that traffic than the 100 LEO each week is worth).

Fair point. One issue with this is the fact that one could rather easily manipulate the results by pushing fake- or non-organic traffic to certain pages. It can be done in ways so it's rather difficult to spot at first glance and even though it could harm us in the long haul, like being banned so we can't earn Ad Revenue anymore, it's an "amazing way" for abusers to make sure they win LEO prizes short-term.

The last is obviously worst case scenario, but like the saying goes: greed brings out the worst in us.

That being said, one can obviously spot this type of abuse by looking into certain details, but it's also something one have to spend time doing.

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Very annoyed that i wasn't one of them.
I was away from the laptop this week and fell a long way behind in my usual scheduled commenting and posting.

That just means a reset for next week and go again even harder to get your leo.

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Still ~3 more days until the next report! :)

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I'll work on it but going out to a concert tomorrow so that is two days on the beer and very little commenting.

Hopefully he has a quiet week again.

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Well then, there's always next week. Any comments you're able to make still add value though. :)

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Sorry to hear but don't feel annoyed, you still have a chance. If you won't make it before Khal then at least you still engaged :)

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I am already afraid when the time comes that I don't have enough time to make my comments. LEO mobile is needed for IOS and I somehow can't seem to find it...

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I need to get the new mobile app as well.
That will be great going forward for keeping up with everything leo and push the ad revenue as well.

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I haven't tried the app. It seems really great though, judging by the screenshots and reviews I've read.

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That happens. Just need to kick it into overdrive for a while. This is going to really be a fun week.

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The problem is time right now but i'm giving it a small boos today while i found a spare moment.

I like to be active anyway so even if i cant place in the rankings i will still be commenting every day for fun.

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Yay Me! Thanks.

I always brag about how I was here when leo used to pay 0.02 for commenting.

This TOTALLY is waaaay more brag worthy.

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Sorry for making multiple comments, but I also wanted to shed some light upon the whole "rewards"-situation by referring to some of my own content I have published:

I obviously understand that some authors are more well-known, established and so on. But if we look at one of my recent posts we can see this: (And this happens all over Hive/LEO and is not about me specifically. I'm just simply using my own posts as an example)

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The above post is outward facing content, in the terms that the intention with it is to generate traffic to LeoFinance while targeting coinpayu users specifically, or people interested in coinpayu, for whatever reason it might be.

There are various factors to weigh in when looking for organic traffic and how to do it. The above post is basically just a "follow up" post, of something I previously did, so they can "work together" until Google ranks the content properly, which is when one of them are going to benefit more by having the second one as a "support pillar" behind it.

However, due to the nature of the post, or more specifically, because it's not "interesting enough" for curators, it wasn't rewarded much compared to other content.


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If we look at this post instead, we can see a lot more votes, engagement and pending rewards. This happens for many reasons, but one of them is definitely the actual topic. I'm talking about Hive-related things, which has always been rewarded more than other types of content in general, because that's what everyone loves. That's our common passion so to speak.

The most important part, if you/we are going to focus on optimized content, or to reward such content in the future, we definitely have to come up with something that does not benefit Hive-related content just for the sake of being Hive-related. We have to look at the content from an optimized perspective and to figure out the actual potential it has to generate organic traffic over time, regardless of the topic. The content should be rewarded based on that, or have the chance to be rewarded for that reason and not because of the actual topic.

It's very difficult to come up with something really good, fair and balanced in terms of rewarding optimized content, but it would definitely be the start of something amazing. I love that you are trying @khaleelkazi and I'll do what I can to support this in any way I can.

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No worries about making multiple comments. You are bringing valuable things on the table so thank you. Reading this is giving me some idea on how to create contents that are outward facing.

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You are bringing valuable things on the table

I'm definitely trying. Optimized content, organic traffic and to reward such content is really close to heart and something I truly believe in, so I'm happy to discuss and throw in some feedback and ideas when and where I can. :)

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You obviously put your heart into what you do and it must be really rewarding to see them bringing results to the community :)

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It was harsh for a long period of time, but once I realized that Khal himself and many others on LeoFinance took these things seriously as well as understanding the importance of these things, I was delighted. It makes things a lot easier and it doesn't feel like I'm talking talking to a wall anymore. lol

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I can only imagine how challenging it must be. Thankfully, things are falling into place now and you have placed yourself ahead. And hahaha, no, you are talking to us now not to a wall.

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Life on LEO = patience is key.
In real life = patients is key.

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LoL! That's funny but true

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“ If we look at this post instead, we can see a lot more votes, engagement and pending rewards. This happens for many reasons, but one of them is definitely the actual topic. I'm talking about Hive-related things, which has always been rewarded more than other types of content in general, because that's what everyone loves. That's our common passion so to speak.”

This is one of the biggest issues that Hive has faced for 5 years.

As LeoFinance, we are now facing the same issue - people love to read and hear about things that they already love.

The community are stakeholders in LEO, Hive, etc. This means that they are destined to vote higher on things that please them - for example, reading about things that they’re already invested in.

“ We have to look at the content from an optimized perspective and to figure out the actual potential it has to generate organic traffic over time, regardless of the topic. The content should be rewarded based on that, or have the chance to be rewarded for that reason and not because of the actual topic.”

This is my intention with the 100 LEO per week but I think we can do more than this.

I would love it if we could create something like an “Optimized Content Watcher”… for example a twitter account could be created called “LeoWatch” or a Discord Channel, etc. that could watch for optimized content and drop the link to it so that all of us can be alerted.

For me personally, I sometimes miss this optimized content. It would be nice to get an alert when one is discovered and needs curation.

Ideally, we can also bring more awareness to this issue and get people into the habit of curating content based on the value it can bring to LeoFinance not the “pleasure” one receives from hearing things they want to hear

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Ideally, we can also bring more awareness to this issue and get people into the habit of curating content based on the value it can bring to LeoFinance not the “pleasure” one receives from hearing things they want to hear

That would probably be ideal, but it's also the hardest thing to accomplish. Like you said, people love to read and hear about things that they already love so they curate things they love. It's logical and curators would have to make changes in their voting habits to solve that.

I don't see that happening anytime soon, so something different is probably the way to go.

I know @jk6276 with @leoalpha is exclusively curating external content this week. An idea would be to either have a team of curators who focus on optimized content entirely, or just simply make sure to focus on that type of content more frequently than we've been doing until now.

How about a tag like: #leoseo - for any optimized content that is eligible the weekly LEO prizes? - Would make it easier to keep track of, but it would also beat the purpose of rewarding old content that brings in traffic currently.

Might work to use something like that for those additional weekly prizes you mentioned? - It would definitely make it easier to find- and curate that type of content during the voting window if people used a specific tag.

This brainstorming makes my head spin. :D

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Fair play for dishing out a chunk of LEO, engagement has certainly had a boost over the past few weeks.

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I’m happy to send it out! It just means I need to set a higher bar for engagement and anyone who beats that bar gets paid $$$

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I think it will increase even more this week, (during these last few days before the next post is up) all due to this post. It's causing hype whenever Khal tells people that he will send them LEO.. :D

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I was detoured a bit about things earlier in the week. So I have about a day left to get some commenting done.

I might get topped by @jfang003. I hope Khal is not going to top me. That would be horrific.

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I've been way too busy this week. I'll try to turn things around but I'm not sure if I can anymore. If this goes on for another week I'll try my best to take some money from you

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Well I love to engage, and I think it is time I need to start engaging here in LEO, now that I have found my way here, and that you don't bite. Well done to @ifarmgirl for getting me here and for being so awesome and look at you go girl!

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There's no doubt you will do very well here as you've done on the other front-ends and I would be happy to see you up in the ranks here as well. Thank you, Tito Ed and let's go!

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Thank you for the great surprise for the day! And the challenge is on and another added so let's keep roaring lions! Still have to work on that evergreen content.

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Evergreen content and ever-lasting engagement!

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This is an interesting contest. What a way to engage, and the incentives is awesome. But you know I cant win, you're too engageness !

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Haha! Beat ya by 1! The LeoMobile push notifications are making engagement a breeze!

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Haha that’s crazy! I didn’t even notice it was just by 1

I gotchu this week… yes the LeoMobile notifications are making it incredibly easy! I’m responding with it right now!

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I think people don't realize the true power of push notifications. It literally puts Web3 right in your face on your phone that's on you 99% of the time. LeoFinance is no longer an afterthought of pulling out your phone. It's right there. Front and center. With beautiful notifications.

This is truly going to push growth forward at an exponential rate along with engagement and evergreen content.

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“ It's right there. Front and center. With beautiful notifications.”

I love this! Yes, it changes everything. My ability to engage with the community has literally 10x’d overnight thanks to the notifications feature. It makes my life so much easier and keeps me engaged in what’s happening in conversations across the platform

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1 is all it takes.

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I will take you up on the commenting but 100 comments are about 2 days worth of work. I see that you already started pushing for this week so I may have to see if I can up my game to stay ahead of you though.

As for the evergreen content, I find it hard enough to make posts so I don't know if I will do so. However, I do have a few posts in mind to at least try to make some evergreen content in my posting schedule. It's been slow because I have been working on it slowly.

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