Looking Backwards!

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If you could give me your opinion on this work that would be great!

https://archive.org/details/lookingbackward01bellgoog/page/n5

This general outline was published in 1887.
Never heard of it?
Imagine that!

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Before I bite into this, I'd like to make sure we're at least in the same ball-park.

Do you know of a less than 1000 word summary that highlights what you consider "the important highlights" or perhaps a link to a video essay that you consider a "fair summary" that's 30 minutes or less?

What I'm focused on is identifying PRIMARY AXIOMS. And it would seem like a ridiculous waste of time for me to sift through an entire book in order to distill it down to two or three simple sentences, which you may or may not even agree with!

Maybe we could just skip to the part where you explain what you think are the "key points".

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Keep working, stop paying.

I was not ready to be a communist.
I had read some of the other works, Proudhon, Kropotkin, Goldman, Berkman, but this book pulled it all together.
I stopped being ancom after reading this.
It's no wonder nobody mentions it.

Here are some axioms that set me to thinking, some years ago.
'Cause nothing that is difficult for another to experience' seems to have been lost on him/them.

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Good gods. 58 AXIOMS seems excessive. I'll take some time to condense your Gish Gallop.

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Lol, many, many books, so little time, and still we won't know what we don't know, nor that we don't know that we don't know it.

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'Cause nothing that is difficult for another to experience' seems to have been lost on him/them.

This is the "sunk-cost" fallacy (a pervasive type of cognitive bias).

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Well, exposure to that exact axiom caused me to be less abrasive, if you can imagine.

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Please explain.

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Before encountering my glaring issues, I was a jerk.
Still kinda am.
Just less abrasive, now.
Mostly.
I blame my upbringing.

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Would you consider this a fair summary?

Click to watch 4 minutes,

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I hate watching videos,....
They drag on and on.

I'll presume that was an accurate review.

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They mention "community property" but don't go into detail.

I found a one hour lecture on the book which I'll watch a bit later.

It all sounds a bit "star trek" the more I look into it (no money, no poverty).

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Yes, cooperation so all succeed, not just the genetic lottery winners.

Community property will be factories, farm tools, etc.
Each available for check out.
Things you don't need every day should not sit idle in the shed, it is better to share.

If your community makes shoes,the factory is community property.
If you get your tools for free, you have no problem gifting them to where they get the most use.
Once the need is over, they will be returned/replaced.

Imagine car dealers gifting cars to all that ask, and acting as a warehouse to keep the community supplied.
Failures in supply management will result in replacement of the managers, and those that act corruptly should fear consequences.

The only reason we have poverty now is that it pleases the powerful to watch the suffering.
Well, that and tptb ain't too bright, by design.

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Community property will be factories, farm tools, etc.
Each available for check out.

So, kinda like a public library?

Would you consider free medical care to be a good example of "community property"?

How would you "solve" the "free-rider" "problem" (how would you mitigate the potential harm of wasteful and or abusive and or greedy citizens)?

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The free rider is not really a problem?
We carry him, and 4 social workers with 'free' healthcare, today.

If he could go into a store house and get what he needs, or the dentist, w/e, he is more likely to not be a shirker, if work is a short walk away.

Instead of attaching value to the labor you choose, we attach value to the person working, at all.

You would be shocked if you knew the true costs of 'profit', IMO.

Wasteful and abusive neighbors would soon get the cold shoulder.
If they persist, they could go cold.
That will be up to the consensus in your neighborhood.

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Instead of attaching value to the labor you choose, we attach value to the person working, at all.

Are you familiar with the "employee owned" business model?

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Yes, Catalan did it during the Spanish civil war.
Submedia.TV has a film on Greeks that did it more recently, too.

I've been in this space since 1985.
More so after '05.

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Click to watch 6 minutes,

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I made it 35 seconds, is there any reason to go on?

Not pushing socialism, I am @antisocialists, after all.

You are showing the boundaries given to you by those authorities you've found comforting.

I can link you, but you would have to look for the video synopsis, absent the time to read the books.

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The video is a short 6 minutes, and highlights the challenges of employee owned cooperatives (salient to the topic of community-property). NOTHING IN THE VIDEO ENDORSES SOCIALISM.

It also briefly mentions the Spanish employee-owned-conglomerate Mondragon, which I believe you were referencing with your "Spanish Civil War" reference.

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Ooh,...faces I recognized.

Keep working, stop paying.

Spanish civil war, 1936.

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Never heard of it?
Imagine that!

How could anyone sell "new" books if EVERYONE KNEW THERE WERE ALREADY MUCH BETTER BOOKS AVAILABLE FOR FREE!!!

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Lol, the interwebz, killing bookstores and ignorance since the 90's!

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