RE: My Wartime Diary. Kyiv, Ukraine. Day 24.

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Great work! Your post was selected for curation by one of @curangel's dedicated curators for its contribution to quality!

...unfortunately, it had to be excluded from curation because of the use of a service (reward.app) to liquify rewards.Our upvotes are reserved for content which is created with a commitment to long term growth and decentralization of Hive Power.

This exclusion only applies to this and eventually other future liquified posts and not all your publications in general.

Take care and hive five!



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Our upvotes are reserved for content which is created with a commitment to long term growth and decentralization of Hive Power.

Can't you guys tell the difference between someone who is living under the war and is in need of urgent funds, vs someone who post to skim Hive off the chain?

Shame on you guys to leave this message

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Hello @livinguktaiwan. I would appreciate if you calm down... that comment was just an automated response.

This mess have been just my fault as a curator. She never liquified a post, and I didn't notice that this one was liquified, and when any of the curators drops one of these, the bot leaves this comment.

Of course me, and everybody knows the difference between try to skim Hive off the chain, and this particular case. It has been just an accident.

Anyway, I would apologize for the mess, as the automated comment doesn't look nice in this case.

I hope that now is clear what happened here.

Regards

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These type of comments always look very bad for Curangel and curation guilds in general. It is the curator's responsibility to check that a post is suitable for curation, if not then don't nom it.

From an author's point of view, its just very upsetting for them especially under these circumstances.

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Sorry but you are mixing two topics here.

One thing is your opinion about how Curangel operates, another what happened in this particular case, as, again it is an automated comment.

Do you think we are heartless, to drop manually such comment in a post like this one?

We have been supporting this author for years, and also another posts of her like this one. I think have made clear what happened, and also apologized for an automated comment.

And yes, I can understand that from the author's point of view is an upsetting comment, and that's why I came here to make clear that is an automated comment... nobody here is nuts to drop it manually, in this particular case.

Also I don't think gonna be pleasant for the author, to find here a large argument for something that have been already cleared.

So please... can we stop this? Do you understand that have been an automated comment?

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Hi @livinguktaiwan. Thank you for your thoughts.

Can't you guys tell the difference between someone who is living under the war and is in need of urgent funds, vs someone who post to skim Hive off the chain?

I think we can, but our automated software cannot. It doesn't know we're at war, and it knows no shame. It is a machine.

Shame on you guys to leave this message

I understand and share (believe me, I do) the emotion that led to this call-out, but I feel that this is an unfair judgement of us, because it seems to be made as if we saw this post by someone whose life is torn apart by war, and manually typed a tone-deaf comment beneath it. That's just not the case.

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As you can appreciate I was very upset when I saw this message, and no one in their right mind won't be.

My issue is how this auto comment is triggered, which @jotakrevs said he overlooked it liquified payout. Auto comments are programmed by human beings, and this, in my opinion is the bigger issue which applies in general and not only this post. Why tell someone you have a good post and I was going to curate it but you did something that doesn't align with how we operate, so we're not going to upvote it.

Perhaps you can consider skipping the auto comment for these cases all together? Why cause distress and upset users? It serves no purpose at all.

And thank you for responding. I hate to hijack this post but I also feel it doesn't warrant unsolicited distress automated or not.

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I hate to hijack this post

I've applied a 100% downvote from my own account on the automated comment, so hopefully that concern is mitigated.

As you can appreciate I was very upset when I saw this message, and no one in their right mind won't be.

Agreed. I was upset to see it, too.

thank you for responding

Thank you for the same. I agree that it's a regrettable situation. You are right that auto-comments are programmed by humans. More specifically, this one was programmed by me... at a time long before the war, when I still naively believed this kind of atrocity was unthinkable.

I understand that you feel that these comments in general are harsh and unnecessary. We respectfully disagree. They're supposed to be a deterrent. They're the strongest nonviolent statement we can make at Curangel, that we oppose liquefaction services and the abuse they enable. It is nothing personal against any author. It is disincentivation of a loophole which is ripe for abuse.

Let me be clear, because I used the word "abuse." I am absolutely not accusing everyone who uses liquefaction services of being an abuser. I am not even calling those who provide such services abusers. But I do believe that the existence of these services is a cancer, much like the old for-profit bidbots of the Steem era, and we fight it with what we have, and unfortunately today a very cold message was sent because code doesn't have a heart to feel with, or a mind to reason with.

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@livinguktaiwan, everyone has a right to feel upset but to continue to argue and throw mud is just silly. Scroll back a little and see how much Curangel has contributed to this series of posts and Zirochka's efforts in general. Nobody was expecting the liquifier post and so this happened and we got berated like a bunch of 3yr-olds because nobody was online at the time to delete this particular automated comment.
About the comments: they are only ever sent to a particular author once and in fact many people ditch using it when they see it precludes them from getting upvotes from us and they are not blacklisted thereafter. The project has a right to apply its own criteria for upvotes

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I don't have much more to add to the comments of my fellows from Curangel, but as you tagged me, @livinguktaiwan:

Yes, I overlooked that little icon in the bottom of the post that shows it is a liquified post, is not like I curated plagiarized travel pictures or whatever.

As you seems very concerned for the distress caused to the author, and me too (that's why I came here this morning to explain what happened and also asked you to stop the argue to don't cause more distress), let's stop it here. Don't need to tag me again.

Thank you

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